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* Some might hate me for this, but there's a sentence about half-way through the bool that states -[...]UU's first football match in decades began-. This brings up the following question: Didn't they fulfil the bequest's conditions right there? We never get an information about the bequest's conditions state they have to play a full match (if that were the case they would not fulfil it anyway in the end). Only that they need to ''enter a team in the game of foot-the-ball'' . Didn't they actualy just do that right there?

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* Some might hate me for this, but there's a sentence about half-way through the bool book that states -[...]UU's first football match in decades began-. This brings up the following question: Didn't they fulfil the bequest's conditions right there? We never get an information about the bequest's conditions state they have to play a full match (if that were the case they would not fulfil it anyway in the end). Only that they need to ''enter a team in the game of foot-the-ball'' . Didn't they actualy just do that right there?
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** He snapped, I'd say. The book says he can't do math anymore.

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** He snapped, I'd say. The book says he can't do math anymore.anymore.

* Some might hate me for this, but there's a sentence about half-way through the bool that states -[...]UU's first football match in decades began-. This brings up the following question: Didn't they fulfil the bequest's conditions right there? We never get an information about the bequest's conditions state they have to play a full match (if that were the case they would not fulfil it anyway in the end). Only that they need to ''enter a team in the game of foot-the-ball'' . Didn't they actualy just do that right there?
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****** That I got, I am not daft. My thought more went into the direction of, why did he vanish from the story after the scene he was in? Shouldn't there at least have been a talk or quarrel between him and Ponder? For good measures? It just feels odd that there's no interaction between those two. Left alone no information as to why Adrian left exactly.
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***** He was brought up as the one running the copy of Hex, you know the one who messed up and allowed the chicken incident. Thus he was brought up as the Ponder of the new universities faculty.(just not a very good one)

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* If Ponder is doing the Bursar's job now, what happened to the Bursar?

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\n**** Thing is, it's an old rule of good writing not to bring up characters for absolutely no purpose.

* If Ponder is doing the Bursar's job now, what happened to the Bursar?Bursar?
** He snapped, I'd say. The book says he can't do math anymore.
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*** Adrian only came over as part of the Dean's group. Of ''course'' he went back with the Dean. How is that not clear? Not every single detail has to be explicitly stated.

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*** Adrian only came over as part of the Dean's group. Of ''course'' he went back with the Dean. How is that not clear? Not every single detail has to be explicitly stated.stated.

* If Ponder is doing the Bursar's job now, what happened to the Bursar?
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*** Thing is, it is never said. Only the former Dean actively goes back to Brazeneck. There's no mention of what Adrian was doing in all the time. He appears, speaks one line, flees the scene not to get into the line of fire and...vanishes.

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*** Thing is, it is never said. Only the former Dean actively goes back to Brazeneck. There's no mention of what Adrian was doing in all the time. He appears, speaks one line, flees the scene not to get into the line of fire and...vanishes.vanishes.
*** Adrian only came over as part of the Dean's group. Of ''course'' he went back with the Dean. How is that not clear? Not every single detail has to be explicitly stated.
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** He went back to Brazeneck, where the thing with the chicken happened, if I remember correctly.

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** He went back to Brazeneck, where the thing with the chicken happened, if I remember correctly.correctly.
*** Thing is, it is never said. Only the former Dean actively goes back to Brazeneck. There's no mention of what Adrian was doing in all the time. He appears, speaks one line, flees the scene not to get into the line of fire and...vanishes.
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* {{WhatHappenedToTheMouse}}: Adrian Turnipseed...Where did he go after the scene he was in? The text makes it clear he didn't talk to Ponder.

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* {{WhatHappenedToTheMouse}}: Adrian Turnipseed...Where did he go after the scene he was in? The text makes it clear he didn't talk to Ponder.Ponder.
** He went back to Brazeneck, where the thing with the chicken happened, if I remember correctly.
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**** And it's not even that she wanted him killed, she just wanted to be ready to kill him if needed. Vetinari was, as always, clever enough to know it wouldn't be.

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**** And it's not even that she wanted him killed, she just wanted to be ready to kill him if needed. Vetinari was, as always, clever enough to know it wouldn't be.be.

*{{WhatHappenedToTheMouse}}: Adrian Turnipseed...Where did he go after the scene he was in? The text makes it clear he didn't talk to Ponder.

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* Why is the statue of Alberto Malich still up in UU in ''Making Money''? I thought Albert blew up up in ''Reaper Man''?

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* Why is the statue of Alberto Malich still up in UU in ''Making Money''? I thought Albert blew up up in ''Reaper Man''?Man''?
** That happened in ''Discworld/{{Mort}}'', not ''Discworld/ReaperMan''
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* If there are over 200 football rules on the Disc compared to the [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer 17 we have on Roundworld]] ([[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer printed on about 125-200 pages and up, mind you]]), why is there none yet concerning penalty kicks, linesmen etc? What DO these rules concern?

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* If there are over 200 football rules on the Disc compared to the [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer 17 we have on Roundworld]] ([[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer printed Roundworld (printed on about 125-200 pages and up, mind you]]), you), why is there none yet concerning penalty kicks, linesmen etc? What DO these rules concern?



**** Checked. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer It's rule number 4.]]

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**** Checked. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer It's rule number 4.]]
4.
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*** The original ball probably isn't organic. Nutt and Trev take it to a dwarf craftsman, who notes that he could probably do better than organic materials (like an inflated bladder) for the copy they're making, but he's pressed for time. Ponder takes the original back to the Cabinet.
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*** Pretty certain it has to be the former. Lady Margolotta has no reason seen, said, implied, or even inferrable from what we've seen that suggests she'd want the latter.

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*** Pretty certain it has to be the former. Lady Margolotta has no reason seen, said, implied, or even inferrable from what we've seen that suggests she'd want the latter.latter.
**** And it's not even that she wanted him killed, she just wanted to be ready to kill him if needed. Vetinari was, as always, clever enough to know it wouldn't be.
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**** And yes, it has to be canon with The Last Continent at least, since Fourecks is mentioned at least twice, one such mention referencing Archchancellor Bill Rincewind by name.
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*** We might never know whether she wanted him killed or to go into bersekrmode and rampage through the city. Not until someone asks Pterry.

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*** We might never know whether she wanted him killed or to go into bersekrmode and rampage through the city. Not until someone asks Pterry.Pterry.
*** Pretty certain it has to be the former. Lady Margolotta has no reason seen, said, implied, or even inferrable from what we've seen that suggests she'd want the latter.
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*** I'm not sure what you're saying is wrong here. She thought Nutt was a threat and wanted him killed, and Vetinari overruled her--she's offended because he went against her advice, and doing so exposed that she wanted Nutt killed.

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*** I'm not sure what you're saying is wrong here. She thought Nutt was a threat and wanted him killed, and Vetinari overruled her--she's offended because he went against her advice, and doing so exposed that she wanted Nutt killed.killed.
*** We might never know whether she wanted him killed or to go into bersekrmode and rampage through the city. Not until someone asks Pterry.
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*** ''I'' am fully aware of that. But as said, the text suggests ''she'' adviced to arm the guards with crossbows and ''she'' seemed offended when Vetinari ordered to stand them down. I am not saying that it DOES mean anything, just that it COULD.

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*** ''I'' am fully aware of that. But as said, the text suggests ''she'' adviced to arm the guards with crossbows and ''she'' seemed offended when Vetinari ordered to stand them down. I am not saying that it DOES mean anything, just that it COULD.COULD.
*** I'm not sure what you're saying is wrong here. She thought Nutt was a threat and wanted him killed, and Vetinari overruled her--she's offended because he went against her advice, and doing so exposed that she wanted Nutt killed.
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*** You're right. '''''We''''' don't learn what it takes to bring down [[spoiler:an orc]]. Lady Magolotta, who's helped ''raise'' Nutt, probably did. Just because ''we'' don't know something doesn't mean the ''characters'' don't know it. In fact, it's usually quite the opposite.

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*** You're right. '''''We''''' don't learn what it takes to bring down [[spoiler:an orc]]. Lady Magolotta, who's helped ''raise'' Nutt, probably did. Just because ''we'' don't know something doesn't mean the ''characters'' don't know it. In fact, it's usually quite the opposite.opposite.
*** ''I'' am fully aware of that. But as said, the text suggests ''she'' adviced to arm the guards with crossbows and ''she'' seemed offended when Vetinari ordered to stand them down. I am not saying that it DOES mean anything, just that it COULD.
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*** But we never learn what it took to take them down completely. And, as said, it might be viewed as a bit weird that Margolotta adviced Drumknott to prepare a way of dealing with the two she should have known could easily have ...very negative consequences.

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*** But we never learn what it took to take them down completely. And, as said, it might be viewed as a bit weird that Margolotta adviced Drumknott to prepare a way of dealing with the two she should have known could easily have ...very negative consequences.consequences.
*** You're right. '''''We''''' don't learn what it takes to bring down [[spoiler:an orc]]. Lady Magolotta, who's helped ''raise'' Nutt, probably did. Just because ''we'' don't know something doesn't mean the ''characters'' don't know it. In fact, it's usually quite the opposite.
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Recall what [[spoiler:orcs]] apparently served the ''losing'' side of some sorceror war, so they ''can'' be beaten in combat.

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Recall what [[spoiler:orcs]] apparently served the ''losing'' side of some sorceror war, so they ''can'' be beaten in combat.combat.
*** But we never learn what it took to take them down completely. And, as said, it might be viewed as a bit weird that Margolotta adviced Drumknott to prepare a way of dealing with the two she should have known could easily have ...very negative consequences.
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* In the end of Unseen Academicals when Glenda and [[spoiler: the orc]] go to the palace, Lady Margolotta apparently adviced Drumknott to station guards with crossbows in the hall to shoot the two. And she seems rather offended when Vetinari tells his secretary to 'stand them (the guards) down'. Now, we learned that [[spoiler: the orc]] is pretty much nigh-immortal and that the bolts therefore would only harm/kill Glenda, very likely sending him in a near impossible to stop bersekerrage and rampage. Margolotta's ought to be fully aware of that. What the hell was that woman thinking/planning?

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* In the end of Unseen Academicals when Glenda and [[spoiler: the orc]] go to the palace, Lady Margolotta apparently adviced Drumknott to station guards with crossbows in the hall to shoot the two. And she seems rather offended when Vetinari tells his secretary to 'stand them (the guards) down'. Now, we learned that [[spoiler: the orc]] is pretty much nigh-immortal and that the bolts therefore would only harm/kill Glenda, very likely sending him in a near impossible to stop bersekerrage and rampage. Margolotta's ought to be fully aware of that. What the hell was that woman thinking/planning?thinking/planning?
** Nutt's "little brother" might be able to bring him back from apparent death, but that doesn't stop the apparent death in the first place--recall it took several hours the first time for him to recover, and that was from a blow to the head--crossbow bolts would likely "kill" him just as easily. In the meantime, there's almost certainly a way to make sure he ''stays'' "dead" once he's out cold. If the "little brother" is a physical piece of his physiology, it can be located and removed.\\\
Recall what [[spoiler:orcs]] apparently served the ''losing'' side of some sorceror war, so they ''can'' be beaten in combat.
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**** Checked. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer It's rule number 4.]]

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**** Checked. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer It's rule number 4.]]]]

* In the end of Unseen Academicals when Glenda and [[spoiler: the orc]] go to the palace, Lady Margolotta apparently adviced Drumknott to station guards with crossbows in the hall to shoot the two. And she seems rather offended when Vetinari tells his secretary to 'stand them (the guards) down'. Now, we learned that [[spoiler: the orc]] is pretty much nigh-immortal and that the bolts therefore would only harm/kill Glenda, very likely sending him in a near impossible to stop bersekerrage and rampage. Margolotta's ought to be fully aware of that. What the hell was that woman thinking/planning?
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*** I think that's actually IN the FIFA-Rules. Will have to check.

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*** I think that's actually IN the FIFA-Rules. Will have to check.check.
**** Checked. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer It's rule number 4.]]

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** While it is strange there wouldn't be some of the basic rules in place, the rules which are in place are probably along the same lines as the rules for Quiditch in the ''HarryPotter'' universe, albeit fewer magic related ones- basically, there is a need to expressly forbid specific forms of violence as otherwise, people will do them (have done them), because there AintNoRule. Imagine if football rules included things like no stabbing or shooting other players or wearing brass knuckles on the field. The number of rules would pile up quickly.

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*** Yes, but those 200+ rules are those they found in the urn. Therefore they are the rules of football before it became what it is at the beginning of the book. It's just weird.
** While it is strange there wouldn't be some of the basic rules in place, the rules which are in place are probably along the same lines as the rules for Quiditch in the ''HarryPotter'' universe, albeit fewer magic related ones- basically, there is a need to expressly forbid specific forms of violence as otherwise, people will do them (have done them), because there AintNoRule. Imagine if football rules included things like no stabbing or shooting other players or wearing brass knuckles on the field. The number of rules would pile up quickly.quickly.
*** I think that's actually IN the FIFA-Rules. Will have to check.
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** While it is strange there wouldn't be some of the basic rules in place, the rules which are in place are probably along the same lines as the rules for Quiditch in the ''HarryPotter'' universe, albeit fewer magic related ones- basically, there is a need to expressly forbid specific forms of violence as otherwise, people will do them (have done them), because ThereAintNoRule. Imagine if football rules included things like no stabbing or shooting other players or wearing brass knuckles on the field. The number of rules would pile up quickly.

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** While it is strange there wouldn't be some of the basic rules in place, the rules which are in place are probably along the same lines as the rules for Quiditch in the ''HarryPotter'' universe, albeit fewer magic related ones- basically, there is a need to expressly forbid specific forms of violence as otherwise, people will do them (have done them), because ThereAintNoRule.there AintNoRule. Imagine if football rules included things like no stabbing or shooting other players or wearing brass knuckles on the field. The number of rules would pile up quickly.
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** Going by earlier books (Like Jingo, where they count the score based on fouls rather than goals), it's likely that at this point, a certain amount of violence on the field is expected and allowed, and you just keep playing rather than stop to do penalty kicks.

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** Going by earlier books (Like Jingo, where they count the score based on fouls rather than goals), it's likely that at this point, a certain amount of violence on the field is expected and allowed, and you just keep playing rather than stop to do penalty kicks.kicks.
** While it is strange there wouldn't be some of the basic rules in place, the rules which are in place are probably along the same lines as the rules for Quiditch in the ''HarryPotter'' universe, albeit fewer magic related ones- basically, there is a need to expressly forbid specific forms of violence as otherwise, people will do them (have done them), because ThereAintNoRule. Imagine if football rules included things like no stabbing or shooting other players or wearing brass knuckles on the field. The number of rules would pile up quickly.
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* If there are over 200 football rules on the Disc compared to the [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer 17 we have on Roundworld]] ([[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer printed on about 125-200 pages and up, mind you]]), why is there none yet concerning penalty kicks, linesmen etc? What DO these rules concern?

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* If there are over 200 football rules on the Disc compared to the [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer 17 we have on Roundworld]] ([[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer printed on about 125-200 pages and up, mind you]]), why is there none yet concerning penalty kicks, linesmen etc? What DO these rules concern?concern?
** Going by earlier books (Like Jingo, where they count the score based on fouls rather than goals), it's likely that at this point, a certain amount of violence on the field is expected and allowed, and you just keep playing rather than stop to do penalty kicks.
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**** Perhaps, like the cricket trophy annually contested by England and Australia, it literally is The Ashes - of the Hat, and not the cricket stumps? This would fit the theme of UA and all the obscure British sporting allusions...

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**** Perhaps, like the cricket trophy annually contested by England and Australia, it literally is The Ashes - of the Hat, and not the cricket stumps? This would fit the theme of UA and all the obscure British sporting allusions...allusions...

* If there are over 200 football rules on the Disc compared to the [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer 17 we have on Roundworld]] ([[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer printed on about 125-200 pages and up, mind you]]), why is there none yet concerning penalty kicks, linesmen etc? What DO these rules concern?
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*** Didn't Ridcully mention somewhere in the text that the hat 'Henry's after' is grumbling too much for his taste?

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*** Didn't Ridcully mention somewhere in the text that the hat 'Henry's after' is grumbling too much for his taste?taste?
**** Perhaps, like the cricket trophy annually contested by England and Australia, it literally is The Ashes - of the Hat, and not the cricket stumps? This would fit the theme of UA and all the obscure British sporting allusions...

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