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** The original series was filled with Zangyakou (Brutal) Chojin that, despite receiving training as Seigi (Justice) Chojin were considered little more, if no better, than Akugyou Choujin. For example, we know from the anime that despite Warsman being technically a Zangyakou Seigi Chojin (thus allowed to compete in the Choujin Olympics), Mantarou and the new generation still considered him blatantly Evil and were able to remember him mostly for brutally beating Ramenman, and while Curry Cook and Ramenman himself are shown as fully redeemed instructors in the Hercules Factory, in the original series Ramenman was introduced as the antagonistic character who killed on-screen Brockenman and before meeting Kinnikuman wanted to become a Perfect Chojin (one of the blatantly evil factions) and Curry Cook was similarly refused by his own trainer because of his inability to suppress his rage and brutality. In the Kinnikuman lore, a Zangyakou Chojin is considered evil until he repents and embraces the friendship values of the other Seigi Chojin: Ramenman and Curry Cook did, Warsman did only partly (as, in Ultimate Muscle, Robin Mask lauds him as a good friend but Kinnikuman retorts how he never truly fit in the Muscle League, no matter how much he tried to help) and Ricardo started fitting only after the Choujin Olympics.
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* The way Pashango (Ricardo's trainer) reacted when Ricardo's overbody broke kinda bugs me. Sure, Ricardo was an Akugyou (Evil) Choujin by birth, but he had trained as a Justice Choujin under Pashango's guidance since infancy. Pashango could at least have tried to talk to Ricardo about it instead of immediately attacking him, which was probably [[TooDumbToLive the least sensible option]] available in such a situation.

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* The way Pashango (Ricardo's trainer) reacted when Ricardo's overbody broke kinda bugs me. Sure, Ricardo was an Akugyou (Evil) Choujin by birth, but he had trained as a Justice Choujin under Pashango's guidance since infancy. Pashango [[RacistGrandpa Pashango]] could at least have tried to talk to Ricardo about it instead of immediately attacking him, which was probably [[TooDumbToLive the least sensible option]] available in such a situation.
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** Ilioukhine was at least a Zangyaku (Brutal) Choujin who had several on-panel kills to his name. Barrierfreeman was "only" guilty of sexual harrassment, which, while certainly reprehensible, doesn't really compare.



* The way how Pashango (Ricardo's trainer) reacts when he finds out Ricardo's true nature kinda bugs me. Sure, he was an Evil Choujin by birth, but he was ''clearly'' trying to be a Justice Choujin under Pashango's guidance and was actively resisting his evil nature. He could've at least try to talk to Ricardo about it and find out if Ricardo was really trying to be good instead of immediately attacking him, which is probably [[TooDumbToLive the least sensible action you could do]] in such a situation.

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* The way how Pashango (Ricardo's trainer) reacts reacted when he finds out Ricardo's true nature overbody broke kinda bugs me. Sure, he Ricardo was an Evil Akugyou (Evil) Choujin by birth, but he was ''clearly'' trying to be had trained as a Justice Choujin under Pashango's guidance and was actively resisting his evil nature. He could've since infancy. Pashango could at least try have tried to talk to Ricardo about it and find out if Ricardo was really trying to be good instead of immediately attacking him, which is was probably [[TooDumbToLive the least sensible action you could do]] option]] available in such a situation.
** The fact that Ricardo shows strong sadistic tendencies even ''before'' being revealed as having "evil blood" is also being glossed over, as is the fact that characters such as Purikuran, Destruction and even Jade are allowed to compete and not considered explicitly "evil" despite brutally killing their opponents.
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* Why couldn't Checkmate enter Shogun Palast? He was ''raised'' in the [=dMp=] since he was a kid, while Kevin Mask and possibly Scarface joined in their teens. Also, while Ilioukhine was a bit of an arrogant jerk during the Choujin Olympics, what did he do to make him appear evil?

* Now, I know why Meat cryrogenically froze himself, but...just why? He was the youngest main character (14 at the end of the original series), plus, he doesn't wrestle (save for one match). 28 years wouldn't have made any difference to him, he could still be Mantarou's second at 42 without any serious mental degeneration, couldn't he?
** Meat's own argument was he wanted to keep his mind at its sharpest. I guess he was afraid of ''any'' mental degeneration.

* The way how Pashango (Ricardo's trainer) reacts when he finds out Ricardo's true nature kinda bugs me. Sure, he was an Evil Choujin by birth, but he was ''clearly'' trying to be a Justice Choujin under Pashango's guidance and was actively resisting his evil nature. He could've at least try to talk to Ricardo about it and find out if Ricardo was really trying to be good instead of immediately attacking him, which is probably [[TooDumbToLive the least sensible action you could do]] in such a situation.

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