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* How in the world can you carry a gadget inside your own hand and not be aware of it?
** Are you constantly aware of all your finger bones?

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* How in the world can you carry a gadget inside your own hand and not be aware of it?
** Are you constantly aware of all your
it? Unlike finger bones?bones (which are a part of the human body), an implant would cause pressure on bones and muscles every time the hand moves, revealing its presence. Additionally, its volume would alter the shape of the hand, and there would be a scar from where it was implanted.
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* Why on Earth would they have soldiers patrolling the Fall without even being tethered? Even ones who aren't fighting get slammed to the ground when the gravity shifts, to say nothing of the soldier who fell to his death.

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* Why on Earth would they have soldiers patrolling the Fall without even being tethered? Even ones who aren't fighting get slammed to the ground when the gravity shifts, to say nothing of the soldier who fell to his death.death.
* At the climax, Doug sets some explosives on the "top" of the Fall as soon as he gets on. He then fights and shoots his way to the other end to reach Cohaagen, and is not shown planting any more explosives. Thus, when the train resurfaced at the Colony, top becomes bottom and vice versa, the explosives planted earlier are now at the bottom of the Fall, i.e ''underground''. Yet, when they explode, they managed to destroy the ''top'' of the train and the mechanism holding it in place, sending it plummeting towards the Earth's core.
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** The actress from the original Total Recall was asked something like this, and said that the original design DID have two pairs of breasts, but early feedback said she looked "too bovine" so they reduced it to three breasts, uh, abreast.
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** I think the implication is that Quaid's workplace injury he shows off to his coworker is actually a coverup for the gadget
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** I think the implication is that Quaid's workplace injury he shows off to his coworker is actually a coverup for the gadget
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*** The thing with Cohaagen being taunted with being a hero is implied more with him being bitter that Hauser betrayed him. Given that he had the sound of mind to back up Hauser’s memory in case Hauser betrayed him, it’s not that farfetched that he gave Hauser the fake code memory at the same time he gave the trojan (the trojan as part of the original plan) in case Hauser turned traitor for real.

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* The biggest headscratcher of all has to be, why do I care that the big bad wants to invade the 'colony' in the first place? Nothing is done to make the colony sympathetic in any way, besides the fact the nominal 'hero' of the piece lives there(and even that doesn't help). After this troper watched a lot of fisticuffs, loud car chases and some other stuff I forget, the movie reminded me I was supposed to be rooting for Quaid because of the planned invasion-I still wasn't able to care whether he invaded or not. The colony is oppressed didnt work since it really didn't seem all the different from Britain except they had nicer teeth and perfect hair in the Federation.
** Well, most people automatically think that an armed force marching in and slaughtering a bunch of people because they want their stuff is bad. They don't really need to be given a "reason" to not want to see a bunch of people who didn't do anything mowed down so that other people can move into their apartments. Generally asking an entire country's population "Do you have a particularly good reason we shouldn't herd you all into gas chambers so we can take what you own?" is an indicator of severe mental and moral defect.
*** Nice ad-hom there with no-so-subtle 'Hitler comparison' thrown in for good measure. Well played!. But leaving that tasteless implication aside, In-Universe, the Big-Bad doesnt overtly state hes going to stage a massacre of 10, 100s? of millions of people, and really provides no real justification besides wanting land which is vaguely alluded to, thus we have no reason to 'care' if he does, because he tells us very little. Its even worse when we see during the movie, the Big Damn Hero takes a very short trip to a contaminated area literally within sight of the pristine high-rises of the UFB. Now, since Cohaagen has access to a vast bunch of robo-soliders, would it not have been much cheaper, (and easier) to re-purpose, or build those robots as decontamination-bots instead and reclaim the space? That is a like a several minute ride away? Rather than a risky and expensive invasion of an area on the opposite side of the earth and requires a trip through the Earths core. Either way, the original point still stands. The movies makes zero attempt to create any sort of attachment to the 'colony' nor does the Big Bads strategy make a whole lot of sense either. All we see of the 'Colony' is a VR playground for people wanting to escape reality, a lot of hookers and street thugs, and lots of trash. Not so much as a cute kid to justify Hausers heel-faced turn.
*** Y'know, if you don't want to be called a sociopath, maybe you shouldn't dismiss people's right to live just because you don't find them endearing enough.
** Why does the UFB even need to invade the Colony when they already seem to control it with their soldiers everywhere? Only at the very ending did you see actual Colony goverment employees and soldiers, and before that the UFB already seems to have free reign and thus making any invasion pointless.
*** Because they wanted to level the place, from what I remember. It was 'found' that the colonies where supporting the resistance, and that would mean that they were actively against the UFB, if true. I'm guessing Cohaagen was basically going to declare war, destroy the Colony and everyone in it, then expand the UFB into the space the colony used to be.

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* The biggest headscratcher of all has to be, why do I care that the big bad wants to invade the 'colony' in the first place? Nothing is done to make the colony sympathetic in any way, besides the fact the nominal 'hero' of the piece lives there(and even that doesn't help). After this troper watched a lot of fisticuffs, loud car chases and some other stuff I forget, the movie reminded me I was supposed to be rooting for Quaid because of the planned invasion-I still wasn't able to care whether he invaded or not. The colony is oppressed didnt work since it really didn't seem all the different from Britain except they had nicer teeth and perfect hair in the Federation.
** Well, most people automatically think that an armed force marching in and slaughtering a bunch of people because they want their stuff is bad. They don't really need to be given a "reason" to not want to see a bunch of people who didn't do anything mowed down so that other people can move into their apartments. Generally asking an entire country's population "Do you have a particularly good reason we shouldn't herd you all into gas chambers so we can take what you own?" is an indicator of severe mental and moral defect.
*** Nice ad-hom there with no-so-subtle 'Hitler comparison' thrown in for good measure. Well played!. But leaving that tasteless implication aside, In-Universe, the Big-Bad doesnt overtly state hes going to stage a massacre of 10, 100s? of millions of people, and really provides no real justification besides wanting land which is vaguely alluded to, thus we have no reason to 'care' if he does, because he tells us very little. Its even worse when we see during the movie, the Big Damn Hero takes a very short trip to a contaminated area literally within sight of the pristine high-rises of the UFB. Now, since Cohaagen has access to a vast bunch of robo-soliders, would it not have been much cheaper, (and easier) to re-purpose, or build those robots as decontamination-bots instead and reclaim the space? That is a like a several minute ride away? Rather than a risky and expensive invasion of an area on the opposite side of the earth and requires a trip through the Earths core. Either way, the original point still stands. The movies makes zero attempt to create any sort of attachment to the 'colony' nor does the Big Bads strategy make a whole lot of sense either. All we see of the 'Colony' is a VR playground for people wanting to escape reality, a lot of hookers and street thugs, and lots of trash. Not so much as a cute kid to justify Hausers heel-faced turn.
*** Y'know, if you don't want to be called a sociopath, maybe you shouldn't dismiss people's right to live just because you don't find them endearing enough.
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Why does the UFB even need to invade the Colony when they already seem to control it with their soldiers everywhere? Only at the very ending did you see actual Colony goverment employees and soldiers, and before that the UFB already seems to have free reign and thus making any invasion pointless.
*** ** Because they wanted to level the place, from what I remember. It was 'found' that the colonies where supporting the resistance, and that would mean that they were actively against the UFB, if true. I'm guessing Cohaagen was basically going to declare war, destroy the Colony and everyone in it, then expand the UFB into the space the colony used to be.
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*** Still, it would take literally millenia before the investment paid off. It takes an unbelievable amount of energy just in order to bore a twelve-thousand-kilometres long tunnel (it is one hundred times shorter / one thousand times less deep than the longest/deepest we have today), let alone shield it from the heat and pressure of the core. Remember ''TheCore''? Even that movie was optimistic as hell.

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*** Still, it would take literally millenia before the investment paid off. It takes an unbelievable amount of energy just in order to bore a twelve-thousand-kilometres long tunnel (it is one hundred times shorter / one thousand times less deep than the longest/deepest we have today), let alone shield it from the heat and pressure of the core. Remember ''TheCore''? ''Film/TheCore''? Even that movie was optimistic as hell.
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** Are you constantly aware of all your finger bones?

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** Are you constantly aware of all your finger bones?bones?
* Why on Earth would they have soldiers patrolling the Fall without even being tethered? Even ones who aren't fighting get slammed to the ground when the gravity shifts, to say nothing of the soldier who fell to his death.
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** This has always puzzled me: how does a creature with bilateral symmetry end up with *three* breasts? Breasts come in pairs, going *along* the torso.
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* How in the world can you carry a gadget inside your own hand and not be aware of it?

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* How in the world can you carry a gadget inside your own hand and not be aware of it?it?
** Are you constantly aware of all your finger bones?
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**** Y'know, if you don't want to be called a sociopath, maybe you shouldn't dismiss people's right to live just because you don't find them endearing enough.
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*** Well that's probably the appeal of Rekall. You don't actually go anywhere, but you get the memories of a vacation.
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*** Still, it would take literally millenia before the investment paid off. It takes an unbelievable amount of energy just in order to bore a twelve-thousand-kilometres long tunnel (it is one hundred times shorter / one thousand times less deep than the longest/deepest we have today), let alone shield it from the heat and pressure of the core. Remember ''TheCore''? Even that movie was optimistic as hell.
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*** Because they wanted to level the place, from what I remember. It was 'found' that the colonies where supporting the resistance, and that would mean that they were actively against the UFB, if true. I'm guessing Cohaagen was basically going to declare war, destroy the Colony and everyone in it, then expand the UFB into the space the colony used to be.

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*** Because they wanted to level the place, from what I remember. It was 'found' that the colonies where supporting the resistance, and that would mean that they were actively against the UFB, if true. I'm guessing Cohaagen was basically going to declare war, destroy the Colony and everyone in it, then expand the UFB into the space the colony used to be.be.
* How in the world can you carry a gadget inside your own hand and not be aware of it?
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*** Then lightning would've flash-fried the planet long before the events of the movie could take place.
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*** It wouldn't go over well with people ''today'', who are used to a world where fresh air is a benefit. But in a world where nearly all the air on the planet will kill you, where it's already killed off billions, and where the survivors have had years to get used to those terrible truths? There'd be waiting lists to get ''on the waiting list'' to move safely underground.
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** This troper is also confused by this, especially as Great Britain sits right on the gulf stream, a current of warm air traveling from South America, which accounts for the temperate climate at such a high lattitude. At the very least most of the south of England would be un-inhabitable.
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** In theory: once built it requires no actual energy input, momentum flings the thing back out. So actually it would be the cheapest and fastest mode of travel ever. I'm also guessing they use geothermal heat as a source of energy so the project would paid for itself eventually.
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***Nice ad-hom there with no-so-subtle 'Hitler comparison' thrown in for good measure. Well played!. But leaving that tasteless implication aside, In-Universe, the Big-Bad doesnt overtly state hes going to stage a massacre of 10, 100s? of millions of people, and really provides no real justification besides wanting land which is vaguely alluded to, thus we have no reason to 'care' if he does, because he tells us very little. Its even worse when we see during the movie, the Big Damn Hero takes a very short trip to a contaminated area literally within sight of the pristine high-rises of the UFB. Now, since Cohaagen has access to a vast bunch of robo-soliders, would it not have been much cheaper, (and easier) to re-purpose, or build those robots as decontamination-bots instead and reclaim the space? That is a like a several minute ride away? Rather than a risky and expensive invasion of an area on the opposite side of the earth and requires a trip through the Earths core. Either way, the original point still stands. The movies makes zero attempt to create any sort of attachment to the 'colony' nor does the Big Bads strategy make a whole lot of sense either. All we see of the 'Colony' is a VR playground for people wanting to escape reality, a lot of hookers and street thugs, and lots of trash. Not so much as a cute kid to justify Hausers heel-faced turn.

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*** Because they wanted to level the place, from what I remember. It was 'found' that the colonies where supporting the resistance, and that would mean that they were actively against the UFB, if true.
I'm guessing Cohaagen was basically going to declare war, destroy the Colony and everyone in it, then expand the UFB into the space the colony used to be.

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*** Because they wanted to level the place, from what I remember. It was 'found' that the colonies where supporting the resistance, and that would mean that they were actively against the UFB, if true. \n I'm guessing Cohaagen was basically going to declare war, destroy the Colony and everyone in it, then expand the UFB into the space the colony used to be.
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** Why does the UFB even need to invade the Colony when they already seem to control it with their soldiers everywhere? Only at the very ending did you see actual Colony goverment employees and soldiers, and before that the UFB already seems to have free reign and thus making any invasion pointless.

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** Why does the UFB even need to invade the Colony when they already seem to control it with their soldiers everywhere? Only at the very ending did you see actual Colony goverment employees and soldiers, and before that the UFB already seems to have free reign and thus making any invasion pointless.pointless.
*** Because they wanted to level the place, from what I remember. It was 'found' that the colonies where supporting the resistance, and that would mean that they were actively against the UFB, if true.
I'm guessing Cohaagen was basically going to declare war, destroy the Colony and everyone in it, then expand the UFB into the space the colony used to be.
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** Well, most people automatically think that an armed force marching in and slaughtering a bunch of people because they want their stuff is bad. They don't really need to be given a "reason" to not want to see a bunch of people who didn't do anything mowed down so that other people can move into their apartments. Generally asking an entire country's population "Do you have a particularly good reason we shouldn't herd you all into gas chambers so we can take what you own?" is an indicator of severe mental and moral defect.

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** Well, most people automatically think that an armed force marching in and slaughtering a bunch of people because they want their stuff is bad. They don't really need to be given a "reason" to not want to see a bunch of people who didn't do anything mowed down so that other people can move into their apartments. Generally asking an entire country's population "Do you have a particularly good reason we shouldn't herd you all into gas chambers so we can take what you own?" is an indicator of severe mental and moral defect.defect.
** Why does the UFB even need to invade the Colony when they already seem to control it with their soldiers everywhere? Only at the very ending did you see actual Colony goverment employees and soldiers, and before that the UFB already seems to have free reign and thus making any invasion pointless.
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* The biggest headscratcher of all has to be, why do I care that the big bad wants to invade the 'colony' in the first place? Nothing is done to make the colony sympathetic in any way, besides the fact the nominal 'hero' of the piece lives there(and even that doesn't help). After this troper watched a lot of fisticuffs, loud car chases and some other stuff I forget, the movie reminded me I was supposed to be rooting for Quaid because of the planned invasion-I still wasn't able to care whether he invaded or not. The colony is oppressed didnt work since it really didn't seem all the different from Britain except they had nicer teeth and perfect hair in the Federation.

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* The biggest headscratcher of all has to be, why do I care that the big bad wants to invade the 'colony' in the first place? Nothing is done to make the colony sympathetic in any way, besides the fact the nominal 'hero' of the piece lives there(and even that doesn't help). After this troper watched a lot of fisticuffs, loud car chases and some other stuff I forget, the movie reminded me I was supposed to be rooting for Quaid because of the planned invasion-I still wasn't able to care whether he invaded or not. The colony is oppressed didnt work since it really didn't seem all the different from Britain except they had nicer teeth and perfect hair in the Federation.Federation.
** Well, most people automatically think that an armed force marching in and slaughtering a bunch of people because they want their stuff is bad. They don't really need to be given a "reason" to not want to see a bunch of people who didn't do anything mowed down so that other people can move into their apartments. Generally asking an entire country's population "Do you have a particularly good reason we shouldn't herd you all into gas chambers so we can take what you own?" is an indicator of severe mental and moral defect.
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** Possibly it's not entirely atmospheric. It may have leached into the ground and that's what's actually radiating the poison gasses. There may be "intermediate zones" where the gasses are thus only blown occasionally by the weather, but no one would want to live there because the first good storm and your whole family dies.
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*** I really don't think you'd want to build your city dome out of actual glass, considering that the first time there was a really bad hailstorm not only would it start raining glass on the city all the poison gas necessitating the dome would start leaking in.
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*** If starting a space colony were as easy as you make it sound I'm pretty sure we would have done it already.
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** The dialogue seems to indicate that ''all'' of the synths that were not in active service were onboard.


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*** The resources to maintain such a thing would be way more enormous than the output. They have land where this isn't required. Who would want to waste resources to make an area liveable that would require ''constant'' support from back home?


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** Resources. The Fall seemed to not take much in the way of energy to use, while planes would burn thousands of gallons of gas (probably very rare now). No one would use such a limited resource just so lower class citizens could get to work.
** Also RuleOfCool. I mean, a train through the earth's core? Neat!


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** Possibly the chemicals have changed the weather patterns.


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** Robots building robots. How many times has this been shown to a '''terrible''' idea?


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** Radiation?

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