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14th Oct '16 12:50:40 PM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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* [[spoiler: Why did Scarlett fall for Sky's plan (using a broken promo-bot to get her to open the door)? She just seemed smarter than that]]
** [[spoiler: Scarlett's plot was just far too complex for a 13 episode season. Suddenly turning her into an AntiClimaxBoss was pretty much the easiest/laziest way they could've wrapped it up in such a short amount of time]].

* The Jasmine/Shawn conflict seemed forced (she was going to take a dive to try and keep Shawn from being eliminated anyway)

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* [[spoiler: Why did Scarlett fall for Sky's plan (using a broken promo-bot to get her to open the door)? She just seemed smarter than that]]
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** [[spoiler: Scarlett's plot was just far too complex for a 13 episode season. Suddenly turning her into an AntiClimaxBoss was pretty much the easiest/laziest way they could've wrapped it up in such a short amount of time]].

* The Jasmine/Shawn conflict seemed forced (she was going
time without having to take a dive possibly resort to try and keep Shawn from being eliminated anyway)
turning the episode into a two-parter.
1st Oct '16 12:18:42 PM costanton11
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** I for one think it was just a good old fashioned goof, this show is chock-full of them. Noah randomly appearing with Trent in the next scene was probably the animators trying to cover up the fact they forgot to show him jump. That, or Noah jumped the way a normal person would (Rather than flailing insanely like Cody, cheering like Geoff or hitting the side of the cliff like Ezekiel) so they cut it out to save time.=

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** I for one think it was just a good old fashioned goof, this show is chock-full of them. Noah randomly appearing with Trent in the next scene was probably the animators trying to cover up the fact they forgot to show him jump. That, or Noah jumped the way a normal person would (Rather than flailing insanely like Cody, cheering like Geoff or hitting the side of the cliff like Ezekiel) so they cut it out to save time.=


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*** Maybe Lindsay's parents are stingy.
30th Aug '16 3:21:47 PM costanton11
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* The cursed tiki arc. The reason they lost the challenges was because of their own actions (such as opening fire on your own teamates). The curse apparently made them lose three challenges in a row, but that happens to the other team as well.

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* The cursed tiki arc. The reason they lost the challenges was because of their own actions (such as opening fire on your own teamates).teammates). The curse apparently made them lose three challenges in a row, but that happens to the other team as well.



** Besides losing challenges, there's also the misfortunes that happened to members of Screaming Gophers while Beth had the tiki idol. The same time Beth brings the idol back from Boney Island, Izzy is caught and chased away by the RCMP, despite having been on national tv for a few weeks during which she should have been arrested and the fact that the RCMP doesnt attempt to recapture her after she returns to the island even though shes pretty much advertising where she is. Then the next challenge, Cody gets mauled by a bear which is so bad that the rest of the team votes him off for his safety. Then there's Owen getting attacked by bees and Trent getting knocked out in the kitchen challenge. The Gophers probably looked at the previous challenges, and connected them to a curse.

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** Besides losing challenges, there's also the misfortunes that happened to members of Screaming Gophers while Beth had the tiki idol. The same time Beth brings the idol back from Boney Island, Izzy is caught and chased away by the RCMP, despite having been on national tv for a few weeks during which she should have been arrested and the fact that the RCMP doesnt doesn't attempt to recapture her after she returns to the island even though shes she's pretty much advertising where she is. Then the next challenge, Cody gets mauled by a bear which is so bad that the rest of the team votes him off for his safety. Then there's Owen getting attacked by bees and Trent getting knocked out in the kitchen challenge. The Gophers probably looked at the previous challenges, and connected them to a curse.



** In the Extreme Sports episode, Trent mentions them signing release forms so I guess there must a bit in the contestant's contracts legally absolving the show of any injuries done to them during the challenge no matter how threatening the challenges may be. The psycho killer cornering Gwen in Hook,Line and Sinker doesnt count since he wasnt part of the challenge. Chris hates losing money and having a ton of lawsuits from angry parents would cramp his luxurous lifestyle so it would make sense he'd add something to the contract preventing their families from suing the show. Add to that he's got lawyers who like to make LOTS of copies.

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** In the Extreme Sports episode, Trent mentions them signing release forms so I guess there must a bit in the contestant's contracts legally absolving the show of any injuries done to them during the challenge no matter how threatening the challenges may be. The psycho killer cornering Gwen in Hook,Line and Sinker doesnt doesn't count since he wasnt wasn't part of the challenge. Chris hates losing money and having a ton of lawsuits from angry parents would cramp his luxurous luxurious lifestyle so it would make sense he'd add something to the contract preventing their families from suing the show. Add to that he's got lawyers who like to make LOTS of copies.



* During the TDI special Courtney finds out that they aren't on an island at all, just an isolated area that's actually very close to civilization, yet, during ''Phobia Factor'' and ''X-treme Torture'' characters take a plane above the island, wouldn't they have noticed what Coutney discovered nearly a season later?

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* During the TDI special Courtney finds out that they aren't on an island at all, just an isolated area that's actually very close to civilization, yet, during ''Phobia Factor'' and ''X-treme Torture'' characters take a plane above the island, wouldn't they have noticed what Coutney Courtney discovered nearly a season later?



** I remember in Celebrity Manhunt's TDA Reunion Special that Beth and Lindsay were locked up for destroying a work of art in Paris, and in the version where Duncan won TDA, they said that Beth's parents had to sell their car to bail them both out (in Beth's version she had to use her winnings). If Lindsay was rich, then Beth's parents would not have to sell the car, so that causes a plothole where you're standing.

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** I remember in Celebrity Manhunt's TDA Reunion Special that Beth and Lindsay were locked up for destroying a work of art in Paris, and in the version where Duncan won TDA, they said that Beth's parents had to sell their car to bail them both out (in Beth's version she had to use her winnings). If Lindsay was rich, then Beth's parents would not have to sell the car, so that causes a plothole plot hole where you're standing.



** It gets worse. They actually censored the word "stupid" a few times, despite it being fine on there other shows. But they're alot better now, editing very few things and even giving you the uncensored versions on iTunes and the CN website.
* It bugs me that Katie and Sadie never realised they were on TV until TDDDDI even though they're on a reality show and the fact that everyone's being filmed is brought up a hundred times.

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** It gets worse. They actually censored the word "stupid" a few times, despite it being fine on there other shows. But they're alot a lot better now, editing very few things and even giving you the uncensored versions on iTunes and the CN website.
* It bugs me that Katie and Sadie never realised realized they were on TV until TDDDDI even though they're on a reality show and the fact that everyone's being filmed is brought up a hundred times.



** I always assumed that they brought the others to help in the challenge, but, barring Trent and a couple others, it never ocurred to the others.


* Why was the '''first''' chalenge ''so'' much more life-threatining then every other thing Chris gives out?

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** I always assumed that they brought the others to help in the challenge, but, barring Trent and a couple others, it never ocurred occurred to the others.


* Why was the '''first''' chalenge challenge ''so'' much more life-threatining life-threatening then every other thing Chris gives out?



* Why does Harold never stand up for himself agaisnt Duncan? Maybe if he told him he was bugging him, Duncan would bully him less. Also, what does Duncan see in bullying Harold?

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* Why does Harold never stand up for himself agaisnt against Duncan? Maybe if he told him he was bugging him, Duncan would bully him less. Also, what does Duncan see in bullying Harold?



*** Actually, I think it was the ''best'' move the writers made the entire season, considering the other two EnsembleDarkhorse characters and their treatment this season. Look at what happened to Cody this season, a guy who had a similar fanbase - his extended time made him do some things that not everyone liked, and he didn't always come off looking as sympathetic thanks to Gwen and Sierra, and became a bit of a boring BaseBreakingCharacter. Ezekiel... well, the less said about him the better (although in my opinion the massive TakeThat was justified). But Noah? The writers saw that he did have some positive traits, developed them correctly, gave him friendships, and showed off his cunning side. Then he left before the massive {{Flanderization}} and CharacterDerailment of the rest of the cast, making him STILL a darkhorse, and one of the few characters STILL almost universally loved by the fanbase (it's basically down to him and Lindsay) for season five. If he had stayed, his game would have been affected by the goddamn triangle and an open conflict with Alejandro, which was unneccesary now that Heather and Duncan were there.
*** Alejandro's action was also one of the more realistic moves in-show: Noah was a threat that he didn't see coming and that manipulated ''him'', which made him extremely dangerous. It's not being a VillainSue, it's just not being stupid. It also gives the implication that Noah is more of a threat than Heather, Courtney, and Duncan (considered some of the best players of the game) because Al didn't forsee it, and got rid of immediately, rather than stringing him along to the finals like the other three, because Noah knew better than to play out in the open - it was only his big mouth that got him.

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*** Actually, I think it was the ''best'' move the writers made the entire season, considering the other two EnsembleDarkhorse characters and their treatment this season. Look at what happened to Cody this season, a guy who had a similar fanbase - his extended time made him do some things that not everyone liked, and he didn't always come off looking as sympathetic thanks to Gwen and Sierra, and became a bit of a boring BaseBreakingCharacter. Ezekiel... well, the less said about him the better (although in my opinion the massive TakeThat was justified). But Noah? The writers saw that he did have some positive traits, developed them correctly, gave him friendships, and showed off his cunning side. Then he left before the massive {{Flanderization}} and CharacterDerailment of the rest of the cast, making him STILL a darkhorse, dark horse, and one of the few characters STILL almost universally loved by the fanbase (it's basically down to him and Lindsay) for season five. If he had stayed, his game would have been affected by the goddamn triangle and an open conflict with Alejandro, which was unneccesary unnecessary now that Heather and Duncan were there.
*** Alejandro's action was also one of the more realistic moves in-show: Noah was a threat that he didn't see coming and that manipulated ''him'', which made him extremely dangerous. It's not being a VillainSue, it's just not being stupid. It also gives the implication that Noah is more of a threat than Heather, Courtney, and Duncan (considered some of the best players of the game) because Al didn't forsee foresee it, and got rid of immediately, rather than stringing him along to the finals like the other three, because Noah knew better than to play out in the open - it was only his big mouth that got him.



** Chris had already had the cast thrown off the plane for that remark, he probably didnt want to risk any more emnity from the cast by giving Chris another excuse to torture them

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** Chris had already had the cast thrown off the plane for that remark, he probably didnt didn't want to risk any more emnity enmity from the cast by giving Chris another excuse to torture them



** I just felt like he brought Duncan back and kept him on even when he should have been eliminated so that he could engineer the huge hellstorm that was the Courtney/Duncan/Gwen love triangle. Remember, [[MagnificentBastard Chris]] was the one who broke the lock on the door leading to the kiss affair and its witnessing. I just saw it as his chance for revenge against Courtney for her lawsuits and lawyer-rulebending in TDA.

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** I just felt like he brought Duncan back and kept him on even when he should have been eliminated so that he could engineer the huge hellstorm hell-storm that was the Courtney/Duncan/Gwen love triangle. Remember, [[MagnificentBastard Chris]] was the one who broke the lock on the door leading to the kiss affair and its witnessing. I just saw it as his chance for revenge against Courtney for her lawsuits and lawyer-rulebending lawyer-rule-bending in TDA.



** I personally thought Chris bringing Duncan back was Chris somewhat deliberatly showing how little he cares about the rules, and how much he cares about the drama. Ezekiel was [[{{Determinator}} hanging onto the plane's wing and somehow clawed his way into the cargo hold to prove himself worthy of the competition,]] and was willing, in his derailing sanity, to hunt down his former comrades. Chris doesn't really like him, so he's thrown headfirst from the plane with no parachute. Duncan was WILLING to jump out of the plane again to be away from the show, but [[CaptainObvious Chris just wants drama.]]

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** I personally thought Chris bringing Duncan back was Chris somewhat deliberatly deliberately showing how little he cares about the rules, and how much he cares about the drama. Ezekiel was [[{{Determinator}} hanging onto the plane's wing and somehow clawed his way into the cargo hold to prove himself worthy of the competition,]] and was willing, in his derailing sanity, to hunt down his former comrades. Chris doesn't really like him, so he's thrown headfirst from the plane with no parachute. Duncan was WILLING to jump out of the plane again to be away from the show, but [[CaptainObvious Chris just wants drama.]]



*** In one of the Animation Nation interview videos released before season four, a question about new outfits actually came up. Christian Potenza (?) actually said it was too much of a challenge to draw new outfits every sseason. Changing hairstyles (at least in Heather's case) was necessary to establish a timeline, and it is technically a smaller alteration to work with.
* If Chris wanted to get rid of Ezekiel so badly, then why, when all the animals were carted up after the plane exploded, did he have the interns box Ezekiel up too? made evn more confusing when he complains to Sierra about how they can't get rid of him, minutes before Alejandro finds him captured by the interns.

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*** In one of the Animation Nation interview videos released before season four, a question about new outfits actually came up. Christian Potenza (?) actually said it was too much of a challenge to draw new outfits every sseason.season. Changing hairstyles (at least in Heather's case) was necessary to establish a timeline, and it is technically a smaller alteration to work with.
* If Chris wanted to get rid of Ezekiel so badly, then why, when all the animals were carted up after the plane exploded, did he have the interns box Ezekiel up too? made evn even more confusing when he complains to Sierra about how they can't get rid of him, minutes before Alejandro finds him captured by the interns.



* So apparently the season was already aired inside certain parts of the world (France, italy, apparently Australia) So were the outcomes for those essentially the same as what's going to happen out in North America? [[spoiler: Mike finishes 6th, Jo finishes 5th, Zoey and Scott are 4th or 3rd but I haven't found any spoilers to suggest which order. Cameron and Lightning are in the final two. Evidently, in the Italian version, Cameron wins.]] So far, it's following the boot order, but are they going to change it up a bit for the NA version(s)?

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* So apparently the season was already aired inside certain parts of the world (France, italy, Italy, apparently Australia) So were the outcomes for those essentially the same as what's going to happen out in North America? [[spoiler: Mike finishes 6th, Jo finishes 5th, Zoey and Scott are 4th or 3rd but I haven't found any spoilers to suggest which order. Cameron and Lightning are in the final two. Evidently, in the Italian version, Cameron wins.]] So far, it's following the boot order, but are they going to change it up a bit for the NA version(s)?



* How is Chris not in jail, hes admitted to doing illegal activities on Reality TV.

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* How is Chris not in jail, hes he's admitted to doing illegal activities on Reality TV.



* Why the hell did Scott not get forced to show the Chris [=McClane=] seal of approval? For all we know, the idol did not have it and he simply pulled out a replica just to stay in the game. I demand to see that seal!

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* Why the hell did Scott not get forced to show the Chris [=McClane=] [=McLean=] seal of approval? For all we know, the idol did not have it and he simply pulled out a replica just to stay in the game. I demand to see that seal!



** I had the same question, however the answer becomes obvious after his elimination: they needed someone on the hero team to eliminate after the first episode so they could play out all the storylines with the others (Sierra's Cody withdrawl, Cam trying to help Mike, being Sierra's reluctant ReplacementGoldfish and [[spoiler: Getting shuttled over to the vultures]], Mike's whole situation with the Malevolent one, Zoey reacting to that, Courtney getting shuttled over to the other team and Duncan's whole drama with Gwen and possibly knowing the malevolent one. All of these are either apparent before his elimination or come into play shortly afterwords. The Villian team didnt have a plant like that simply because they had a limited selection (with Gwen only being placed there for dramatic reasons and Courtney being swapped over after a few episodes) and limited space, with Justin being the only one left out, and the only one who'd be obvious elimation bait before their exit episode.

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** I had the same question, however the answer becomes obvious after his elimination: they needed someone on the hero team to eliminate after the first episode so they could play out all the storylines with the others (Sierra's Cody withdrawl, withdrawal, Cam trying to help Mike, being Sierra's reluctant ReplacementGoldfish and [[spoiler: Getting shuttled over to the vultures]], Mike's whole situation with the Malevolent one, Zoey reacting to that, Courtney getting shuttled over to the other team and Duncan's whole drama with Gwen and possibly knowing the malevolent one. All of these are either apparent before his elimination or come into play shortly afterwords. The Villian Villain team didnt didn't have a plant like that simply because they had a limited selection (with Gwen only being placed there for dramatic reasons and Courtney being swapped over after a few episodes) and limited space, with Justin being the only one left out, and the only one who'd be obvious elimation elimination bait before their exit episode.



* In "Moon Madness," Cameron gets fed up with Sierra's clinginess and affectations and decides to get away from her by removing himself from the competition. Rather than quit, though, why couldnt he just have asked the rest of the Heroic Hamsters to vote her off if he was that desperate to get rid of her? Mike and Zoey are his close friends and would easily oblige his request, especially after seeing how Sierra was going crazy from Cody withdrawal and treating Cameron as a ReplacementGoldfish. Duncan played in TDWT with her so he knows how far she can get with her obsessions and wouldnt have a problem voting her off. Cameron was certainly quick to ask the Vultures to vote her off when they would have no inclination to listen to him. Plus, he had earlier promised to help Mike with his or lack of multiple personalities which he couldn't be able to do if he was eliminated. I know meta-wise it was because the writers wanted to shuffle Cameron over to the Vultures so he could develop a friendship with Gwen, but it just bugs me that he didnt consider it.

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* In "Moon Madness," Cameron gets fed up with Sierra's clinginess and affectations and decides to get away from her by removing himself from the competition. Rather than quit, though, why couldnt couldn't he just have asked the rest of the Heroic Hamsters to vote her off if he was that desperate to get rid of her? Mike and Zoey are his close friends and would easily oblige his request, especially after seeing how Sierra was going crazy from Cody withdrawal and treating Cameron as a ReplacementGoldfish. Duncan played in TDWT with her so he knows how far she can get with her obsessions and wouldnt wouldn't have a problem voting her off. Cameron was certainly quick to ask the Vultures to vote her off when they would have no inclination to listen to him. Plus, he had earlier promised to help Mike with his or lack of multiple personalities which he couldn't be able to do if he was eliminated. I know meta-wise it was because the writers wanted to shuffle Cameron over to the Vultures so he could develop a friendship with Gwen, but it just bugs me that he didnt didn't consider it.



** While writing "Mike is Mal" would make sense, given that the audience is aware of Mike's MPD and thst an evil personality has taken over his body, we cant be sure that Alejandro is aware about that. In the first episode, Alejandro states that he had been stuck in the robot suit for a year and that his last memories were of being swarmed in lava at the finale of TDWT so presumably he wouldnt have watched TDROTI to know that Mike had Multiple Personality Disorder. The other contestants knowing how much a ManipulativeBastard Alejandro is probably didnt tell him about Mike's disorder so as to prevent him using it to his advantage. Without this knowledge, Alejandro probably thought that Mal was the real personality and that his Mike 'persona' was just an act to fool people into liking him sort of like what Alejandro did in TDWT. Perhaps he thought Mike was a fake name or that he liked being called Mal? At any rate, drawing Mike with the devil horns showed a clearer message. As for why he didnt tell anyone about the DVD in the spa hotel, my guess is that he didnt want Mal to know where it was and destroying it.

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** While writing "Mike is Mal" would make sense, given that the audience is aware of Mike's MPD and thst that an evil personality has taken over his body, we cant be sure that Alejandro is aware about that. In the first episode, Alejandro states that he had been stuck in the robot suit for a year and that his last memories were of being swarmed in lava at the finale of TDWT so presumably he wouldnt wouldn't have watched TDROTI to know that Mike had Multiple Personality Disorder. The other contestants knowing how much a ManipulativeBastard Alejandro is probably didnt didn't tell him about Mike's disorder so as to prevent him using it to his advantage. Without this knowledge, Alejandro probably thought that Mal was the real personality and that his Mike 'persona' was just an act to fool people into liking him sort of like what Alejandro did in TDWT. Perhaps he thought Mike was a fake name or that he liked being called Mal? At any rate, drawing Mike with the devil horns showed a clearer message. As for why he didnt didn't tell anyone about the DVD in the spa hotel, my guess is that he didnt didn't want Mal to know where it was and destroying it.



** Soap and something to grind your cloths against goes a long way towards getting them clean if you need clean cloths. I'm sure some of them haven't changed but they could easily wash their cloths the old fashioned way. Though the truth is it's probably handwaved. I never got the impression the island was supposed to have washing machines in any of the other seasons.

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** Soap and something to grind your cloths against goes a long way towards getting them clean if you need clean cloths. I'm sure some of them haven't changed but they could easily wash their cloths the old fashioned way. Though the truth is it's probably handwaved.hand-waved. I never got the impression the island was supposed to have washing machines in any of the other seasons.



** No. There are cameras all over the island just like in every season. However since the majority of the contestants skipped over the majority of challenges Chris didn't have anything he could piece together a legit show. So what we got for "This is the Pits," is basically an uncut behind the scenes look that normally would have been editted differently. Though it's often hard to tell just like in "Scarlett Fever" where apparently there was time to cut away to Max's reaction interview at (where is/was at that time) the outhouse despite the island being near destruction.

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** No. There are cameras all over the island just like in every season. However since the majority of the contestants skipped over the majority of challenges Chris didn't have anything he could piece together a legit show. So what we got for "This is the Pits," is basically an uncut behind the scenes look that normally would have been editted edited differently. Though it's often hard to tell just like in "Scarlett Fever" where apparently there was time to cut away to Max's reaction interview at (where is/was at that time) the outhouse despite the island being near destruction.
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** Knowing Chris, the wheel was almost certainly rigged.
24th Aug '16 6:17:21 PM costanton11
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** The rope may have gotten loose and untied. Owen and DJ happened to stay on the board while Cody and Tyler fell off.



** When the suitcase passes by them, Beth is out of the parachute but Ezekiel is still under it. Maybe after Lindsay and Beth ran off, Ezekiel got out of it and left to try to find them.



** I remember in Celebrity Manhunt's TDA Reunion Special that Beth and Lindsay were locked up for destroying a work of art in Paris, and they said that Beth's parents had to sell their car to bail them both out. If Lindsay was rich, then Beth's parents would not have to sell the car, so that causes a plothole where you're standing.

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** I remember in Celebrity Manhunt's TDA Reunion Special that Beth and Lindsay were locked up for destroying a work of art in Paris, and in the version where Duncan won TDA, they said that Beth's parents had to sell their car to bail them both out.out (in Beth's version she had to use her winnings). If Lindsay was rich, then Beth's parents would not have to sell the car, so that causes a plothole where you're standing.
16th Aug '16 10:57:12 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Terry {{McGurrin}} who wrote this episode tends to give certain characters like her and Gwen the IdiotBall in order to justify their eliminations which says to me that like the rest of the writers this season he [[TheyJustDidntCare just didn't care]].

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** Terry {{McGurrin}} who wrote this episode tends to give certain characters like her and Gwen the IdiotBall in order to justify their eliminations which says to me that like the rest of the writers this season he [[TheyJustDidntCare just didn't care]].care.
7th Aug '16 9:33:30 PM Anddrix
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** "Okay, '''I know this is probably just me''', but Courtney's return seriously bugs me." Haha, [[BaseBreaker what?]]

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** "Okay, '''I know this is probably just me''', but Courtney's return seriously bugs me." Haha, [[BaseBreaker what?]]
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*** Actually, I think it was the ''best'' move the writers made the entire season, considering the other two EnsembleDarkhorse characters and their treatment this season. Look at what happened to Cody this season, a guy who had a similar fanbase - his extended time made him do some things that not everyone liked, and he didn't always come off looking as sympathetic thanks to Gwen and Sierra, and became a bit of a boring BaseBreaker. Ezekiel... well, the less said about him the better (although in my opinion the massive TakeThat was justified). But Noah? The writers saw that he did have some positive traits, developed them correctly, gave him friendships, and showed off his cunning side. Then he left before the massive {{Flanderization}} and CharacterDerailment of the rest of the cast, making him STILL a darkhorse, and one of the few characters STILL almost universally loved by the fanbase (it's basically down to him and Lindsay) for season five. If he had stayed, his game would have been affected by the goddamn triangle and an open conflict with Alejandro, which was unneccesary now that Heather and Duncan were there.

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*** Actually, I think it was the ''best'' move the writers made the entire season, considering the other two EnsembleDarkhorse characters and their treatment this season. Look at what happened to Cody this season, a guy who had a similar fanbase - his extended time made him do some things that not everyone liked, and he didn't always come off looking as sympathetic thanks to Gwen and Sierra, and became a bit of a boring BaseBreaker.BaseBreakingCharacter. Ezekiel... well, the less said about him the better (although in my opinion the massive TakeThat was justified). But Noah? The writers saw that he did have some positive traits, developed them correctly, gave him friendships, and showed off his cunning side. Then he left before the massive {{Flanderization}} and CharacterDerailment of the rest of the cast, making him STILL a darkhorse, and one of the few characters STILL almost universally loved by the fanbase (it's basically down to him and Lindsay) for season five. If he had stayed, his game would have been affected by the goddamn triangle and an open conflict with Alejandro, which was unneccesary now that Heather and Duncan were there.
24th Jul '16 2:48:06 PM SeanRenaud
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*** Additionally the TD! universe might just be one where money is simply worth a lot more than it is in our universe. Courtney is rich enough to hire lawyers to get her back on the show. Revenge of the Island's Dakota is clearly a lawyer friendly expy of Paris Hilton making her one of the richest people on the planet. At the end of Revenge of the Island Chris is locked up for running a toxic chemical dump that had produced killer mutants. Less than a year later in-universe he is released to run the show again because the amount of money he generates for Canada is that tremendous. Yes in real life rich people get away with stuff, but not to this magnitude or with this level of public exposure.
24th Jul '16 9:18:24 AM costanton11
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** Two theories; one, the writers decided that she had been speaking too much and decided to cut her lines during the episode. Two, the writers forgot to make Heather talk, similar to how Justin was silent for almost every episode in the series.

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** Two Three theories; one, the writers decided that she had been speaking too much and decided to cut her lines during the episode. Two, the writers forgot to make Heather talk, similar to how Justin was silent for almost every episode in the series. Three, the voice actress was busy at the time.



** He was there when Courtney was preparing to jump in the jelly.




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** Since 16 is not divisible by 3, one team would have one more member than the others. Maybe he choose to give the extra member to the first place team as a reward.




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** Just because someone knows that others dislike them doesn't mean that they're fine with it if they start insulting them.




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** They were only paid to pick up DJ, so they though the others weren't their problem?
29th Jun '16 1:43:35 AM ZPanda1000
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**As for Geoff's supposed "derailing" in season 2, I vaguely remember them saying the fame from hosting the Aftermath show went to his head, and that at some point everyone worked together to make him come to his senses and be the nice guy they all know and love
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