History Headscratchers / Titanic1997

* It's on record that the diamond was bought as a present for Rose Dewitt-Bukater. at the beginning of the film, she is legally dead, not having come forward after the sinking. So the Heart - if it was on the wreck - would presumably count as salvage, with no legal owner to claim it. But as soon as Rose Calvert contacts Lovett and reveals she in fact is the person who legally owns the diamond, wouldn't Brock Lovett's quest immediately be rendered fruitless? Even if they found it, it still belongs to Rose, not the finder, presumably? So the moment Lovett is convinced of who Rose Calvert really is - and he seems to be the first to believe her - you'd expect him to realize he's lost all claim to the diamond and have some kind of reaction. He hasn't yet been humbled by Rose's wider story so you'd expect something of a tantrum upon realizing this!

** To add to which, this is also apparently the first time Granddaughter is learning that her grandmother apparently had a whole secret life that she faked her death to get away from, a secret life which included being rich as balls, finding true love that crossed the class barrier and any number of other adventures, ''on top of'' surviving the sinking of the ''Titanic'', . That's a lot to digest at once, and it's not that hard to believe that Granddaughter might need a little bit more than a waterlogged sketch of a naked chick to completely get on board with that story at first.

*** More over as Rose would’ve been among those testifying at the American and British inquiries into the sinking coupled with the fact that she still has Cal’s jacket WITH HIS NAME ON IT (high end custom made outfits tend to have the owner’s name sewn onto the inside lining or inside tag for identification purposes to prevent mix ups) and Lowe would definitely report that he rescued one woman from the water who was wearing only a nightgown and a men’s dinner jacket on top of any survivors who witnessed the one-sided gunfight on the grand staircase. Cal knows that he’d be branded as a coward and his reputation would be irreparably ruined once word got out that he’d tried to murder his fiance which caused her to flee into the bowels of the sinking ship to escape where a deceased 3rd class passenger found and got her back up to the boat deck; while he (Cal) went back and got into a lifeboat as if he’d done nothing wrong.

** I'm not sure why Brock would take the financial risk of chartering a helicopter to pick 100-year-old Rose up if he didn't believe her, but there's nothing inherently dangerous or unhealthy about being in a plane whether you're 1 or 100. Older people and their family are generally hesitant about flying but that's generally out of inconvenience. You have a good point that Rose's granddaughter should know what her grandmother looks like, but it's a drawing which could be stylized and look different than pictures. Also, pictures from that era are likely very very grainy and don't look very good.

*** more over as Rose would’ve been among those testifying at the American and British inquiries into the sinking coupled with the fact that she still has Cal’s jacket WITH HIS NAME ON IT (high end custom made outfits tend to have the owner’s name sewn onto the inside lining or inside tag for identification purposes to prevent mix ups) and Lightroller would definitely report that he rescued one woman from the water who was wearing only a nightgown and a men’s dinner jacket on top of any survivors who witnessed the one-sided gunfight on the grand staircase. Cal knows that he’d be branded as a coward and his reputation would be irreparably ruined once word got out that he’d tried to murder his fiance which caused her to flee into the bowels of the sinking ship to escape where a deceased 3rd class passenger found and got her back up to the boat deck; while he (Cal) went back and got into a lifeboat as if he’d done nothing wrong.

*** more over as Rose would’ve been among those testifying at the American and British inquiries into the sinking coupled with the fact that she still has Cal’s jacket WITH HIS NAME ON IT (high end custom fitted outfits tend to have the owners name sewn on the inside lining or inside tag for identification purposes to prevent mix ups) and Lightroller would definitely report that he rescued one woman from the water who was wearing only a nightgown and a men’s dinner jacket on top of any survivors who witnessed the one-sided gunfight on the grand staircase. Cal knows that he’d be branded as a coward and his reputation would be irreparably ruined once word got out that he drove his fiance into the bowels of the sinking ship with the business end of a gun before jumping into a life boat to save his own skin while she narrowly avoided dying thanks to a deceased 3rd class passenger who found and got her back up to the boat deck.

* What happened to Cal's bodyguard? he just kind of disappears after the whole ''trying to shoot Jack and Rose'' scene. he obviously dies but a scene showing his demise would have been nice - the man is a KarmaHoudini.

*** Not to mention the fact that Jack could have easily worked a menial job at some point in the past(bartender; coal miner; heck, even a shipboard stoker)and might have saved enough money to buy a third class ticket to Europe. Heck, maybe he even worked as a stoker or even a sailor on an earlier ocean liner and made his way from America to Europe that way.

*** It was near-impossible to find the Titanic but once they found the Titanic, the savage trips to the Titanic haven't stopped since

*** Brock throws his and his crew's livelihooods away just because he was moved by Rose's story? I think the larger question is why we're expected to be sympathetic to someone who throws a valuable object away that could help anyone (i.e. her grand daughter, Brock, her favorite charity).

*** and of course we now have the Costa Concordia as another demonstration of a sinking. In that case, 3 watertight compartments were breached, and she was designed, like Titanic, to float with two breached. In that particular case though, it was actually capsizing rather than sinking that did for Costa Concordia.

*** While I can't guess Jack's ability as a survivalist of gunfighting, it's generally recommended you DON'T try counting the shots. Too many things can go wrong, or even change the number in the firearm, assuming you can accurately tell how many it is holding at the time in the first place. You're average person, wouldn't waste time trying to anyway, being more concerned with staying alive.

*** It should be noted that the Colt M1911 was still a new weapon at that time. And since Jack was more concerned with surviving one day to the next, he wasn't too keen on looking up new firearms. Also remember, that people tend to think that magazine-fed firearms can hold an enormous amount of ammunition. You have to know quite a bit about a firearm to know its magazine capacity, and the signs of empty/jam. Besides, both Jack’s, and Rose’s Fight/Flight response was in full flight mode, which meant that they wanted to put as much distance between them and that gun as they possibly could.

*** It should be noted that the Colt M1911 was still a new weapon at that time. And since Jack was more concerned with surviving one day to the next, he wasn't too keen on looking up new firearms. Also remember, that people tend to think that magazine-fed firearms can hold an enormous amount of ammunition. You have to know quite a bit about a firearm to know it's magazine capacity, and the signs of empty/jam. Besides, both Jacks, and Roses Fight/Flight response was in full flight mode, which meant that they were wanting to put as much distance between them, and that gun as they possibly could.

*** Which is a good theory, except it doesn't really take into account the 30 survivors who were retrieved from the overturned lifeboat Collapsible B and the 11 survivors pulled from the half-swamped Collapsible A. Almost no one was retrieved from the water itself which means Jack's situation was pretty dire but Rose's seems to have been exaggerated slightly for drama because if 41 people were able to survive several hours in the freezing air after being pulled from the water, she likely would have too
*** But they were given blankets after they got in the boats which treats for both shock and hypothermia something she didn't have till she was rescued and "pulled from the water" so until they were in the boats the other 41 people where probably only better off because they were in groups and could share body heat

*** A) they were both running on adrenaline at which point you tend to not notice freezing cold water B) the water and air traveled through the whole ship thus was probably slightly warmer than the air and water outside C) the air drying the water on your body is what makes you colder thus after going outside they were in far worse shape than before D) they were moving a lot which causes your body to create heat as opposed to sitting on a board E) everyone in the water was drowning being drowned panicking or looking for people so of course they were shouting And F) the water that night was below FREEZING Jack wasn't over exaggerating even water that is just cold hurts to be submerged in not to mention the height she would have fallen

*** Try "days". The scene with Cal searching the deck of the ''Carpathia'' (and presumably everywhere else in their third-class section that survivors were housed) appears to be daytime on the 15th, they day they were rescued. ''Carpathia'' arrived in New York on the evening of April 18th, in the accurately-depicted rainstorm. (Now, why Rose STILL has the coat on at that point, and hasn't taken advantage of the fresh clothes given up by ''Carpathia'''s passengers and crew, who knows. Maybe she deliberately kept more or less hidden until they arrived, hence them having missed her for three days while getting names of survivors...)

** Jesus was actually asked that question in Literature/TheBible(about a hypothetical widow with the CartwrightCurse). He said that marriage(and presumably romance) was an earthly thing and presumably that love works a different way in heaven.(however, he was asked this as an attempt to trap him into admitting the afterlife didnt make sense as a concept...he was speaking in relation to marriage as a legal, childbearing institution, rather than in relation to ones soulmate.)

*** Yes he was, apparently; marriage vows aside, no one ever said love was simple.

** Do you mean when Lovejoy noted that Jack had time to remove his jacket and shoes? I didn't take that as accusing Jack of rape, just that Lovejoy knew the story didn't add up. I doubt Lovejoy would have let it go with just a snide comment if he really suspected Jack of that. I think he suspected hanky-panky.