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** That was just a case of shameless product placement. The patch included that wish because the next expansion included Hot Tubs. "Want to satisfy your Sim's wish? Buy the new expansion!". What bugs Me, is that with the expansion installed, my Sims have yet to wish for a hot tub, when previous to having the expansion, they kept wanting that damn hot tub every day.

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** That was just a case of shameless product placement. The patch included that wish because the next expansion included Hot Tubs. "Want to satisfy your Sim's wish? Buy the new expansion!". What bugs Me, is that with the expansion installed, my Sims have yet to wish for a hot tub, when previous to having the expansion, they kept wanting that damn hot tub every day.



* Why don't Sims react to certain events? For example, I had a married lesbian couple in one game. One of them had an affair with her wife's brother, and got pregnant by him. ''The wife never questioned it''. Huh? Does she think girls just randomly get pregnant or that her wife got an AI?

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* Why don't Sims react to certain events? For example, I had in one game there was a married lesbian couple in one game.couple. One of them had an affair with her wife's brother, and got pregnant by him. ''The wife never questioned it''. Huh? Does she think girls just randomly get pregnant or that her wife got an AI?



*** What gets me is that my Sim was on the computer and his sister walks in and begins to freak out, saying that he was cheating on his boyfriend. Sure, she was an excitable Sim, but still.
* Yes, there are {{Game Mod}}s for this too, but [[Tropers/SlvstrChung this troper]] is annoyed that ''[=TS3=]'' does not support more than 5 Traits out of the box. Seriously, EA, what kind of personality-deficient buffs work at ''your'' office that you can describe them with only five adjectives? I don't know ''anyone'' who can be accurately captured with less than seven. The traits system itself was a major step in the right direction (as opposed to the silly points system of the second game), but you didn't take it far enough.
** I seem to recall at least one interview where the dev team cited Quirks in TabletopGame/{{GURPS}} for one of the things that inspired the trait system; it's likely an artifact of that (Which, in turn, is likely an artifact of the fact that GURPS is notoriously pentaphilic)



** I also find it too short. Especially since childhood is the cutest and most fun stage for me.



*** Additionally or actually fixed as of a patch that came around the time of Generations. My vanilla Sims 3 game (plus mods, none of which affect aging and none of which are used in my main game) now allows a lot of new options, including adjusting the length of life stages (in days) within and beyond the basic lifespan settings.

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*** Additionally or actually fixed as of a patch that came around the time of Generations. My vanilla Sims 3 game (plus mods, none of which affect aging and none of which are used in my main game) now allows a lot of new options, including adjusting the length of life stages (in days) within and beyond the basic lifespan settings.



* Mary-Sue is not a MarySue. There's a very low chance that the creators of the game even [[OpinionMyopia know what Mary Sue means.]] No one I've met outside the internet does. The parody of the "perfect" suburban life is a common trope (look at Series/DesperateHousewives for the same kind of thing) but that is not the same kind of perfection as the MarySue archetype. If they were trying to parody the archetype, they wouldn't have made her a middle-aged lobbyist at level 1 in her career track. On that note, there's nothing in canon to suggest that Angela is the cheerleader who picked on you in high school. It's not her fault that her parents neglected her sister and "patient and dutiful" does not a MarySue make (or a mean girl, or a preppy princess.) She dreams of being a ''fishing boat captain.'' You know who gets turned in a Sue the most in the fandom? Lilith, the special snowflake goth who's soooo much cooler and badass. By the same people who accuse her mother and sister of it.
** Mary Sue is a perfectionist. She probably ''wants'' to be a MarySue. And playing Lilith and Angela is boring for me, since I see Lilith as a JerkSue and Angela as a PuritySue.
*** It's the opposite for this troper. I see Angela as being a StepfordSmiler and Lilith as being a BrokenBird. They're both interesting to raise in game, but a lot of people are too harsh on Angela. Like in real life, two people can have very different reactions to the same situation (in this case, their dysfunctional family).

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* Mary-Sue is not a MarySue. There's a very low chance that the creators of the game even [[OpinionMyopia know what Mary Sue means.]] No one I've met outside the internet does. The parody of the "perfect" suburban life is a common trope (look at Series/DesperateHousewives for the same kind of thing) but that is not the same kind of perfection as the MarySue archetype. If they were trying to parody the archetype, they wouldn't have made her a middle-aged lobbyist at level 1 in her career track. On that note, there's nothing in canon to suggest that Angela is the cheerleader who picked on you in high school. It's not her fault that her parents neglected her sister and "patient and dutiful" does not a MarySue make (or a mean girl, or a preppy princess.) She dreams of being a ''fishing boat captain.'' You know who gets turned in a Sue the most in the fandom? Lilith, the special snowflake goth who's soooo much cooler and badass. By the same people who accuse her mother and sister of it.
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** Mary Sue is a perfectionist. She probably ''wants'' to be a MarySue. And playing Lilith and Angela is boring for me, since I see Lilith as a JerkSue and Angela as a PuritySue.\n*** It's the opposite for this troper. I see Angela as being a StepfordSmiler and Lilith as being a BrokenBird. They're both interesting to raise in game, but a lot of people are too harsh on Angela. Like in real life, two people can have very different reactions to the same situation (in this case, their dysfunctional family).



** I think the creators try to make the game somewhat realistic and well, that is TruthInTelevision. Some parents do envision their kids growing up to look one way and their kid grows up to look like something totally different.
* For some reason it drives me ABSOLUTELY CRAZY that Sims don't pull their pants down/hike their skirts up when they sit on the toilet. I'm well aware that the game [[NoFlowInCGI just isn't built for clothing to shift around on the Sim like that]], but it still causes me disproportionate amounts of annoyance.
** This troper noticed they don't even pee - there's no urine. Also why is their urine apparently clear, despite them never drinking water?

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** I think Maybe the creators try to make the game somewhat realistic and well, that is TruthInTelevision. Some parents do envision their kids growing up to look one way and their kid grows up to look like something totally different.
* For some reason it drives me ABSOLUTELY CRAZY that Sims don't pull their pants down/hike their skirts up when they sit on the toilet. I'm well aware that the game [[NoFlowInCGI just isn't built for clothing to shift around on the Sim like that]], but it still causes me disproportionate amounts of annoyance.
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** It's weird, but surprisingly realistic. I actually struck up a conversation with a girl in a bar once. My opening line was, "Hey, I saw you working the coffee machine in Starbucks once". I'd only ever been there that one time.
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** [[WatsonianVsDoylist Doylistian reasons]]. Why is Kaylynn a few days into child stage when she's just turned into an adult "50 years later"? Because someone at EA wanted her in. Why does nobody in Twinbrook know each others' traits? Because it's the same expansion that introduces trait-related Profession features and they did'nt want to spoil it if you moved someone in your household. Why are sims not connected on Isla Paradiso family trees? Because time constraint.

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** [[WatsonianVsDoylist Doylistian reasons]]. Why is Kaylynn a few days into child stage when she's just turned into an adult "50 years later"? Because someone at EA wanted her in. Why does nobody in Twinbrook know each others' traits? Because it's the same expansion that introduces trait-related Profession features and they did'nt didn't want to spoil it if you moved someone in your household. Why are sims not connected on Isla Paradiso family trees? Because time constraint.
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*** Perhaps this was true, until he got sent to military school like the player-controlled children who cut school, but was too weak for military training so they had him deliver newspapers instead.
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* Many casual fans refer to the Sims as "Sims characters", but since the title itself refers to the entire race of digital people in the games, isn't this as redundant as, say, referring to [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] as "the guy from the ''Mario'' games"? It sort of comes off as a bizarre inversion of IAmNotShazam where the title ''does'' refer to the main characters but casual fans ''don't'' realize this.
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* When Sims tell jokes, a series of pictures appear in speech bubbles while they speak Simlish in a joke tone. Whenever they do that, I can't help but wonder what joke possibly has all those things in it, but sometimes I can even think of one that has to do with the images. So are the images chosen randomly, or did the creators actually think of real jokes and use pictures to illustrate them? (If it's the latter, it could be GettingCrapPastTheRadar for the dirty jokes, if the player knows a joke that has to do with the speech bubble images)
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*** You can quite clearly see he doesn't have much, if anything, below the lumbar spine. That being said, you can pleasure a woman with things other than your ding-a-ling. He definitely has fingers, and his face is hidden, so we can't rule out a tongue. Also, the point about magic is a good one.
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** [[WatsonianVsDoylist Doylistian reasons]]. Why is Kaylynn a few days into child stage when she's just turned into an adult "50 years later"? Because someone at EA wanted her in. Why does nobody in Twinbrook know each others' traits? Because it's the same expansion that introduces trait-related Profession features and they did'nt want to spoil it if you moved someone in your household. Why are sims not connected on Isla Paradiso family trees? Because time constraint.
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* In the Bird Sisters family, they have a cat for some reason. Why keep a cat if they eat birds?! And in the County Cowpokes household, Johnny can't even ride. On top of this, Freebird has level 5 jumping skill despite the fact she has the Hates Jumping Trait. And two sims in the Unfretted With Feathers household have level 4 and 9 riding skill respectively, yet they don't have a horse! What's the deal with those families?

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** Lions are the national animal off England, yet I don't think there's any lions there. (Except in zoos maybe.)

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** Lions are the national animal off of England, yet I don't think there's any lions there. (Except in zoos maybe.))
** Unicorns are the national animal of Scotland. Enough said.
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*** If true, then why can't our SimChild be home schooled, or go to the school with the odd hours?

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*** If true, then why can't our SimChild Sim Child be home schooled, or go to the school with the odd hours?



** Lions are the national animal off England, yet I don't think there's any lions there. (Except in zoo's maybe.)

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** Lions are the national animal off England, yet I don't think there's any lions there. (Except in zoo's zoos maybe.)
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*** You'd think there would be. There isn't. The closest thing to a full afro in any of the stuff/expansion packs is in the Katy Perry's Sweet Treats stuff pack, but it has an enormous tacky candy accessory on it. It's not just the devs, either - this troper spent ''months'' trawling multiple modding sites' content before seeing an afro.
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** Real answer, though. There ''is'' a penis bone (-r. Heh heh.) called baculum, although it's only present in animals like monkeys, not in humans (also, the penis bone is seperated from the skeleton anyway). Who's to say the Grim Reaper has any trace of humanity at all, though, or that scientific facts apply to him since he's a supernatural being? Heck, for all we know, he could use magic for some temporary hanky-panky. [[TakeAThirdOption Or not be a complete skeleton to begin with.]]
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** I seem to recall at least one interview where the dev team cited Quirks in {{GURPS}} for one of the things that inspired the trait system; it's likely an artifact of that (Which, in turn, is likely an artifact of the fact that GURPS is notoriously pentaphilic)

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** I seem to recall at least one interview where the dev team cited Quirks in {{GURPS}} TabletopGame/{{GURPS}} for one of the things that inspired the trait system; it's likely an artifact of that (Which, in turn, is likely an artifact of the fact that GURPS is notoriously pentaphilic)

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**Is that a double entendre?



Lions are the national animal off England, yet I don't think there's any lions there. (Except in zoo's maybe.)

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Lions **Lions are the national animal off England, yet I don't think there's any lions there. (Except in zoo's maybe.)
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Lions are the national animal off England, yet I don't think there's any lions there. (Except in zoo's maybe.)
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* Llamas are clearly quite central to the culture of Sim Nation - but llamas are native to the Andes, which Sim Nation is clearly not located anywhere near!
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*** I hope that's true, since I named my ''[[{{PokemonBlackAndWhite}} Black]]'' character after Vidcund...
* I forgot the characters name, not having played TheSims2 in ''years'', but I clearly remember that when you go through the memories of one of the characters, one of her memories is doing [=WooHoo=] with TheGrimReaper. Seeing as he's a skeleton....''how''?

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*** I hope that's true, since I named my ''[[{{PokemonBlackAndWhite}} ''[[VideoGame/{{PokemonBlackAndWhite}} Black]]'' character after Vidcund...
* I forgot the characters name, not having played TheSims2 VideoGame/TheSims2 in ''years'', but I clearly remember that when you go through the memories of one of the characters, one of her memories is doing [=WooHoo=] with TheGrimReaper. Seeing as he's a skeleton....''how''?
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* Mary-Sue is not a MarySue. There's a very low chance that the creators of the game even [[OpinionMyopia know what Mary Sue means.]] No one I've met outside the internet does. The parody of the "perfect" suburban life is a common trope (look at DesperateHousewives for the same kind of thing) but that is not the same kind of perfection as the MarySue archetype. If they were trying to parody the archetype, they wouldn't have made her a middle-aged lobbyist at level 1 in her career track. On that note, there's nothing in canon to suggest that Angela is the cheerleader who picked on you in high school. It's not her fault that her parents neglected her sister and "patient and dutiful" does not a MarySue make (or a mean girl, or a preppy princess.) She dreams of being a ''fishing boat captain.'' You know who gets turned in a Sue the most in the fandom? Lilith, the special snowflake goth who's soooo much cooler and badass. By the same people who accuse her mother and sister of it.

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* Mary-Sue is not a MarySue. There's a very low chance that the creators of the game even [[OpinionMyopia know what Mary Sue means.]] No one I've met outside the internet does. The parody of the "perfect" suburban life is a common trope (look at DesperateHousewives Series/DesperateHousewives for the same kind of thing) but that is not the same kind of perfection as the MarySue archetype. If they were trying to parody the archetype, they wouldn't have made her a middle-aged lobbyist at level 1 in her career track. On that note, there's nothing in canon to suggest that Angela is the cheerleader who picked on you in high school. It's not her fault that her parents neglected her sister and "patient and dutiful" does not a MarySue make (or a mean girl, or a preppy princess.) She dreams of being a ''fishing boat captain.'' You know who gets turned in a Sue the most in the fandom? Lilith, the special snowflake goth who's soooo much cooler and badass. By the same people who accuse her mother and sister of it.
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** Well, if you crack the baby open and look at its genetic data, it's a gender-swapped clone of Brandi. So, mad science?
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*** It's not so much product-placement as future proofing. Sims 2 expansion packs regularly re-introduced old bugs that'd been patched out because they were built on older versions of the core game. Workflow and post-release support were re-organized so that this wouldn't happen on The Sims 3. It's also why much-ballyhooed expansion features, like the ability to swim in the ocean in Seasons, were quietly introduced to the core game.
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** Aliens
*** Nope. Aliens only impregnate males IIRC.



*** I'm revoking your pun privileges.
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** They're more akin to Hookahs than bongs.
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** It might not even ''be'' the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' {{fanfic}}-inspired definition, but rather the classic use of the name where Mary Sue brought up connotations of a 50s-suburbia style high school girl (''{{Pleasantville}}'' is one work that [author edit: almost definitely coincidentally] combines the two definitions).
*** Exactly. Mary Sue, Skip, Don and Betty are all cheesy old-fashioned sounding names that were also used in the Pleasantville movie. I'd say there's a snowball's chance in hell that anybody who worked on that movie was thinking of the fannish definition though, so no the movie was not combining the terms.

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** It might not even ''be'' the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' {{fanfic}}-inspired definition, but rather the classic use of the name where Mary Sue brought up connotations of a 50s-suburbia style high school girl (''{{Pleasantville}}'' (''Film/{{Pleasantville}}'' is one work that [author edit: almost definitely coincidentally] combines the two definitions).
*** Exactly. Mary Sue, Skip, Don and Betty are all cheesy old-fashioned sounding names that were also used in the Pleasantville ''Pleasantville'' movie. I'd say there's a snowball's chance in hell that anybody who worked on that movie was thinking of the fannish definition though, so no the movie was not combining the terms.
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*** I'm revoking your pun privileges.
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** She jumped his bones.
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* I forgot the characters name, not having played TheSims2 in ''years'', but I clearly remember that when you go through the memories of one of the characters, one of her memories is doing "WooHoo" with TheGrimReaper. Seeing as he's a skeleton....''how''?

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* I forgot the characters name, not having played TheSims2 in ''years'', but I clearly remember that when you go through the memories of one of the characters, one of her memories is doing "WooHoo" [=WooHoo=] with TheGrimReaper. Seeing as he's a skeleton....''how''?
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* I forgot the characters name, not having played TheSims2 in ''years'', but I clearly remember that when you go through the memories of one of the characters, one of her memories is doing "WooHoo" with TheGrimReaper. Seeing as he's a skeleton....''how''?

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** Well, Sims don't get memories for being pregnant, only for giving birth. Skip probably died while Brandi is still pregnant with Beau

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** Well, Sims don't get memories for being pregnant, only for giving birth. Skip probably died while Brandi is still pregnant with BeauBeau.
*** That's the problem. Brandi is pregnant with a third child at the start of the game, but it can't be Skip's if he died before the second one was born.

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