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2nd Apr '14 3:02:44 PM Beavizz81
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** Vic's testimony is pretty damned compelling, especially since he can corrobrate a lot of unsolved crimes. Further, it could easily lead to more physical evidence.
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** Vic's testimony is pretty damned compelling, especially since he can corrobrate a lot of unsolved crimes. Further, it could easily lead to more physical evidence.evidence. *** Then reality would come into play with news offering this up. I mean Ronnie have no loyalty to Vic anymore. So he could likely go on the news with his claims. Of course he might not be believed but thats another story.
1st Jan '14 12:58:16 PM Illuminatus
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** They have him dead to rights on aiding and abedding a fugitive. Everything AFTER that is a crapshoot due to the pandora's box it will open. And Ronnie, in the end, has no reason to stay quiet on the later, especially since it is why he did the former and he has NOTHING to lose.
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** They have him dead to rights on aiding and abedding a fugitive. Everything AFTER that is a crapshoot due to the pandora's box it will open. And Ronnie, in the end, has no reason to stay quiet on the later, especially since it is why he did the former and he has NOTHING to lose.lose. ** Vic's testimony is pretty damned compelling, especially since he can corrobrate a lot of unsolved crimes. Further, it could easily lead to more physical evidence.
14th Dec '13 7:24:35 PM MirrorNoir
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* Would Ronnie really go to prison? Is there any evidence a prosecutor can use against him beyond Vic's testimony?
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* Would Ronnie really go to prison? Is there any evidence a prosecutor can use against him beyond Vic's testimony?testimony? ** They have him dead to rights on aiding and abedding a fugitive. Everything AFTER that is a crapshoot due to the pandora's box it will open. And Ronnie, in the end, has no reason to stay quiet on the later, especially since it is why he did the former and he has NOTHING to lose.
2nd Dec '13 11:17:19 PM ZekeZeke80
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*** To be fair, Acaveda DOES do the next best thing available to him to punish Vic. On the last day as Captain, Acaveda reveals to Vic that he wrote the mother of all "poison pill" reports and placed it into Vic's personal file at the LAPD. Long story short, he basically compiled ALL of Vic's insubordination and asshole behavior into a report and finished it with a proclamation that Vic should NEVER be given ANY position of authority within the LAPD again. This effectively amounts to Vic being blacklisted inside the LAPD: no other precinct will touch him (meaning he can't transfer to a new precinct), he can't get a job running any new Strike Team-esque special unit task force, and any attempt to get himself promoted up the ranks is out of the question. And just to further torment Vic, Acaveda threatens something similar to Ronnie in order to force Ronnie hastily wrap up the last major investigation Vic was working on (a hidden camera sting operation) so that when new Captain Monica Rawlings takes power, Vic will be reduced to being just another detective.
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*** To be fair, Acaveda DOES do the next best thing available to him to punish Vic. On the last day as Captain, Acaveda reveals to Vic that he wrote the mother of all "poison pill" reports and placed it into Vic's personal file at the LAPD. Long story short, he basically compiled ALL of Vic's insubordination and asshole behavior into a report and finished it with a proclamation that Vic should NEVER be given ANY position of authority within the LAPD again. This effectively amounts to Vic being blacklisted inside the LAPD: no other precinct will touch him (meaning he can't transfer to a new precinct), he can't get a job running any new Strike Team-esque special unit task force, and any attempt to get himself promoted up the ranks is out of the question. And just to further torment Vic, Acaveda threatens something similar to Ronnie in order to force Ronnie hastily wrap up the last major investigation Vic was working on (a hidden camera sting operation) so that when new Captain Monica Rawlings takes power, Vic will be reduced to being just another detective.detective. *Would Ronnie really go to prison? Is there any evidence a prosecutor can use against him beyond Vic's testimony?
2nd Aug '11 12:10:11 AM MirrorNoir
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** Police Officers are unionized in Los Angeles, and you can't fire one without cause. Aceveda just could never get enough dirt on him to do it, especially with others protecting him.
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** Police Officers are unionized in Los Angeles, and you can't fire one without cause. Aceveda just could never get enough dirt on him to do it, especially with others protecting him.him. *** To be fair, Acaveda DOES do the next best thing available to him to punish Vic. On the last day as Captain, Acaveda reveals to Vic that he wrote the mother of all "poison pill" reports and placed it into Vic's personal file at the LAPD. Long story short, he basically compiled ALL of Vic's insubordination and asshole behavior into a report and finished it with a proclamation that Vic should NEVER be given ANY position of authority within the LAPD again. This effectively amounts to Vic being blacklisted inside the LAPD: no other precinct will touch him (meaning he can't transfer to a new precinct), he can't get a job running any new Strike Team-esque special unit task force, and any attempt to get himself promoted up the ranks is out of the question. And just to further torment Vic, Acaveda threatens something similar to Ronnie in order to force Ronnie hastily wrap up the last major investigation Vic was working on (a hidden camera sting operation) so that when new Captain Monica Rawlings takes power, Vic will be reduced to being just another detective.
18th Jul '11 7:41:42 AM Illuminatus
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** Also, Vic had one of the best arrest records in the Barn. Without proof that Vic was a dirty cop, there would huge political fallout from sacking Vic,
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** Also, Vic had one of the best arrest records in the Barn. Without proof that Vic was a dirty cop, there would huge political fallout from sacking Vic,Vic, ** Police Officers are unionized in Los Angeles, and you can't fire one without cause. Aceveda just could never get enough dirt on him to do it, especially with others protecting him.
10th May '11 9:41:09 PM Freezer
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** At first, it's because everybody knew Vic was a favorite of Chief Gilroy, so Aceveda would've needed more than "He's an insubordinate asshole". Once Gilroy fell, Aceveda had moved on to his political career, his replacements wouldn't have the personal reasons to get rid of Vic and Vic was now keeping his head down in The Barn without Gilroy to back him up. We find out later that Gilroy's support was teh only thing that kept Vic from getting pushed out far sooner than he eventually was.
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** At first, it's because everybody knew Vic was a favorite of Chief Gilroy, so Aceveda would've needed more than "He's an insubordinate asshole". Once Gilroy fell, Aceveda had moved on to his political career, his replacements (until Claudette) wouldn't have the personal reasons to get rid of Vic and Vic was now keeping his head down in The Barn without Gilroy to back him up. We find out later that Gilroy's support patronage was teh the only thing that kept Vic from getting pushed out far sooner than he eventually was.years earlier.
30th Apr '11 9:58:39 AM culfy
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** At first, it's because everybody knew Vic was a favorite of Chief Gilroy, so Aceveda would've needed more than "He's an insubordinate asshole". Once Gilroy fell, Aceveda had moved on to his political career, his replacements wouldn't have the personal reasons to get rid of Vic and Vic was now keeping his head down in The Barn without Gilroy to back him up. We find out later that Gilroy's support was teh only thing that kept Vic from getting pushed out far sooner than he eventually was.
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** At first, it's because everybody knew Vic was a favorite of Chief Gilroy, so Aceveda would've needed more than "He's an insubordinate asshole". Once Gilroy fell, Aceveda had moved on to his political career, his replacements wouldn't have the personal reasons to get rid of Vic and Vic was now keeping his head down in The Barn without Gilroy to back him up. We find out later that Gilroy's support was teh only thing that kept Vic from getting pushed out far sooner than he eventually was.was. ** Also, Vic had one of the best arrest records in the Barn. Without proof that Vic was a dirty cop, there would huge political fallout from sacking Vic,
30th Apr '11 2:04:30 AM Freezer
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* Why does Aceveda not just ''fire'' Mackey? He's well within his rights to do so.
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* Why does Aceveda not just ''fire'' Mackey? He's well within his rights to do so.so. ** At first, it's because everybody knew Vic was a favorite of Chief Gilroy, so Aceveda would've needed more than "He's an insubordinate asshole". Once Gilroy fell, Aceveda had moved on to his political career, his replacements wouldn't have the personal reasons to get rid of Vic and Vic was now keeping his head down in The Barn without Gilroy to back him up. We find out later that Gilroy's support was teh only thing that kept Vic from getting pushed out far sooner than he eventually was.
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