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* Where does the "outside" part of the party take place, exactly? It doesn't look like the roof or the alley where the characters play football.
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* If Denny comes over to Johnny's apartment all the time, why has Lisa's mom never met him before the events of the movie?
** Maybe that was Denny's first scene in an earlier cut of the film, but then there's how seldom characters get introductions in this movie.
** Maybe Claudette has only recently started coming over often in the recent months leading up to the wedding.
* How did Johnny know Lisa said he hit her? She told her mom and Michelle, but Johnny wasn't there. However, when he overhears Lisa and Claudette talking about her having sex with someone else, he says "How can they say this about me?" when they leave. Which might suggest he was supposed to overhear the accusation that he hit her, and they moved the line to another scene.
** That doesn't really work either, however, as immediately after he says, "[[YouNoTakeCandle I show them]]. I will record everything." Lisa and her mother were also talking under the staircase when she mentioned that Johnny hit her, whereas Johnny seems to be looking at the doorway. So to sum it all up, no matter how this movie is edited it will ''never'' make sense.
*** The tribute game patches this particular plot hole by having Claudette mention it to Johnny one of the times they meet outside his door.
* Why does Johnny need audio evidence that Lisa and Mark are having an affair? They were ''pawing each other'' in front of ''birthday party guests'', and Mark ''flat out'' tells him that she wouldn't need him if Johnny were satisfying her sexually. Johnny and Lisa aren't married, so who needs proof, and for what?
** The tapes prove that the affair has been going on for a while now, and wasn’t simply a one-time instance of "just having fun" Lisa tried to play it off as.
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** If you wanted to be ''really'' generous, you could interpret Mark's reaction as simply the denial/anger [[FiveStagesOfGrief Stages of Grief]]. He was just flat-out being an unremarkable douche earlier in the film. It isn't until [[spoiler: Johnny's suicide]] that he realizes, on some level, just how far out of hand things have gotten, and he's understandably unable to fully process the situation in the minute or two he has left onscreen before the end of the film. His blaming Lisa is the beginning of a VillainousBSOD which could quickly shift to a more appropriate MyGodWhatHaveIDone -- he just doesn't have a chance to get that far before the credits roll.

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** If you wanted to be ''really'' generous, you could interpret Mark's reaction as simply the denial/anger [[FiveStagesOfGrief Stages of Grief]]. He was just flat-out being an unremarkable douche earlier in the film. It isn't until [[spoiler: Johnny's suicide]] that he realizes, realises, on some level, just how far out of hand things have gotten, and he's understandably unable to fully process the situation in the minute or two he has left onscreen before the end of the film. His blaming Lisa is the beginning of a VillainousBSOD which could quickly shift to a more appropriate MyGodWhatHaveIDone -- he just doesn't have a chance to get that far before the credits roll.



** Also note that he [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere stops hanging out with them]] after the tuxedo football scene, so however they met (which, as the above troper noted, could be a lot of ways), it apparently didn't stick
*** That's more a case of RealLifeWritesThePlot, as the actor had told Wiseau he had another acting job he had to do, but they never bothered filming all his scenes.
*** Maybe he's just pretending to be their friend to get material for a thesis he's writing? You probably wouldn't find so many clearly insane people in one social circle anywhere else.

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** Also note that he [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere stops hanging out with them]] after the tuxedo football scene, so however they met (which, as the above troper noted, could be a lot of ways), it apparently didn't stick
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That's more a case of RealLifeWritesThePlot, as the actor had told Wiseau he had another acting job he had to do, but they never bothered filming all his scenes.
*** ** Maybe he's just pretending to be their friend to get material for a thesis he's writing? You probably wouldn't find so many clearly insane people in one social circle anywhere else.



*** Buying cameras they never used was doubly bad financially, as unless you're a major studio (and sometimes not even then), most people rent cameras.

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*** ** Buying cameras they never used was doubly bad financially, as unless you're a major studio (and sometimes not even then), most people rent cameras.



*** His last words are "God forgive me." He must have been considering at least the spiritual implications of what he was doing.

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*** ** His last words are "God forgive me." He must have been considering at least the spiritual implications of what he was doing.



* So, did Johnny hit Lisa, or what? Granted, Lisa is hardly averse to lying to "make things interesting." But Johnny's loud denials fall a bit flat when, while yelling at Lisa that he would never hit her, he pushes her violently to the couch. Also, he's been known to laugh at the thought of women being hospitalized by a jealous boyfriend.

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* So, did Johnny hit Lisa, or what? Granted, Lisa is hardly averse to lying to "make things interesting." But Johnny's loud denials fall a bit flat when, while yelling at Lisa that he would never hit her, he pushes her violently to the couch. Also, he's been known to laugh at the thought of women being hospitalized hospitalised by a jealous boyfriend.



** To actually try to answer the question, it's obvious that Wiseau simply doesn't know how to keep a consistent character. Sure, Johnny might not have hit Lisa ''before'', but regardless of whether what he did qualifies as an actual ''hit'' per se, it does seem very reminiscent of actual domestic abuse situations, rendering the question of whether it were actually a hit moot. Keep in mind he did this more than once in the same damn scene. But again, that has more to do with Wiseau being unable to keep a character consistent with himself - Johnny gets outraged in an abusive way when being accused of ''[[IResembleThatRemark getting outraged in an abusive way]]''. That's clearly not the character Wiseau intended to write, it's Wiseau not realizing this is contradictory with Johnny's established persona.

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** To actually try to answer the question, it's obvious that Wiseau simply doesn't know how to keep a consistent character. Sure, Johnny might not have hit Lisa ''before'', but regardless of whether what he did qualifies as an actual ''hit'' per se, it does seem very reminiscent of actual domestic abuse situations, rendering the question of whether it were actually a hit moot. Keep in mind he did this more than once in the same damn scene. But again, that has more to do with Wiseau being unable to keep a character consistent with himself - Johnny gets outraged in an abusive way when being accused of ''[[IResembleThatRemark getting outraged in an abusive way]]''. That's clearly not the character Wiseau intended to write, it's Wiseau not realizing realising this is contradictory with Johnny's established persona.persona.
** Arguably it may not be contradictory, or at least again in a better written film. Johnny may have been smarting from other passive aggressive actions from Lisa, building up over time, and basically putting up with them because he's a doormat. But to take all that, then to be told he hit her when he didn't? For a character who isn't very emotionally intelligent (as much as he'd like to think he is), it makes sense why he would lash out with a shove (even though the conversation was initially about other subjects e.g. "girl talk"). Not to hurt her, but to tell her "wait a minute, you're out of line, we need to talk this out". It was a shove onto a soft couch, unlikely to hurt her at all. This isn't to excuse his actions, but there ''is'' a kind of logical throughline, it's just crudely sketched out.



** Maybe they all have a similar football as a sign of frienship.

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** Maybe they all have a similar football as a sign of frienship.friendship.
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** In Johnny's case, it's supposed to be payback for her lifting his mood with pizza and alcohol after his disappointment at not getting his promotion. In Mark's case...um...it may be because she has wanted to talk to him before, but he has always blown her off because he's "too busy."

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** In Johnny's case, it's supposed to be payback for her lifting his mood with pizza and alcohol after his disappointment at not getting his promotion. In Mark's case...um... um... it may be because she has wanted to talk to him before, but he has always blown her off because he's "too busy."
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** Well, there's been times in real life when someone has approached a house at the same time as a friend, and called out to the first individual without being noticed, so they had to enter the house separately. So... maybe they're just all idiots.

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** Well, there's been times in real life when someone has approached a house at the same time as a friend, and called out to the first individual without being noticed, so they had to enter the house separately. So... maybe they're the characters are all just all idiots.
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** Well, there's been times when someone has approached a house at the same time as a friend, and called out to the first individual without being noticed, so they had to enter the house separately. So... maybe they're just all idiots.

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** Well, there's been times in real life when someone has approached a house at the same time as a friend, and called out to the first individual without being noticed, so they had to enter the house separately. So... maybe they're just all idiots.
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** Well, there's been times when someone has approached a house at the same time as a friend, and called out to him without being noticed, so we had to enter the house separately. So...maybe they're just all idiots.

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** Well, there's been times when someone has approached a house at the same time as a friend, and called out to him the first individual without being noticed, so we they had to enter the house separately. So... maybe they're just all idiots.
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** To actually try to answer the question, it's obvious that Wiseau simply doesn't know how to keep a consistent character. Sure, Johnny might not have hit Lisa ''before'', but regardless of whether what he did qualifies as an actual ''hit'' per se, it does seem very reminiscent of actual domestic abuse situations, rendering the question of whether it were actually a hit moot. Keep in mind he did this more than once in the same damn scene. But again, that has more to do with Wiseau being unable to keep a character consistent with himself - Johnny gets outraged in an abusive way when being accused of ''[[IResembleThatRemark getting outraged in an abusive way]]''. That's clearly not the charcter Wiseau intended to write, it's Wiseau not realizing this is contradictory with Johnny's established persona.

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** To actually try to answer the question, it's obvious that Wiseau simply doesn't know how to keep a consistent character. Sure, Johnny might not have hit Lisa ''before'', but regardless of whether what he did qualifies as an actual ''hit'' per se, it does seem very reminiscent of actual domestic abuse situations, rendering the question of whether it were actually a hit moot. Keep in mind he did this more than once in the same damn scene. But again, that has more to do with Wiseau being unable to keep a character consistent with himself - Johnny gets outraged in an abusive way when being accused of ''[[IResembleThatRemark getting outraged in an abusive way]]''. That's clearly not the charcter character Wiseau intended to write, it's Wiseau not realizing this is contradictory with Johnny's established persona.

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O HAI, TROPER. Can you keep down the "this troper" syndrome? It's very discourage to use that, you know?



** In Johnny's case, I ''think'' it's supposed to be payback for her lifting his mood with pizza and alcohol after his disappointment at not getting his promotion. In Mark's case...um...it may be because she has wanted to talk to him before, but he has always blown her off because he's "too busy."

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** In Johnny's case, I ''think'' it's supposed to be payback for her lifting his mood with pizza and alcohol after his disappointment at not getting his promotion. In Mark's case...um...it may be because she has wanted to talk to him before, but he has always blown her off because he's "too busy."



*** I have met at least one RealLife person whose middle name was actually a single letter, "D". It's possible that Chris R's last name is ''literally'' "R". (Which also explains why I don't think I've yet seen anyone on this site type it with a period, as in "R." ''Everyone's in on it and I only just figured it out.'')



** Well, I know there's been times when I've approached a house at the same time as a friend, and called out to him without him noticing me, so we had to enter the house separately. So...maybe they're just all idiots.

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** Well, I know there's been times when I've someone has approached a house at the same time as a friend, and called out to him without him noticing me, being noticed, so we had to enter the house separately. So...maybe they're just all idiots.



** To actually try to answer the question, it's obvious that Wiseau simply doesn't know how to keep a consistent character. Sure, Johnny might not have hit Lisa ''before'', but regardless of whether what he did qualifies as an actual ''hit'' per se, it does seem very reminiscent of actual domestic abuse situations, rendering the question of whether it were actually a hit moot. Keep in mind he did this more than once in the same damn scene. But again, I think that has more to do with Wiseau being unable to keep a character consistent with himself - Johnny gets outraged in an abusive way when being accused of ''[[IResembleThatRemark getting outraged in an abusive way]]''. That's clearly not the charcter Wiseau intended to write, it's Wiseau not realizing this is contradictory with Johnny's established persona.

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** To actually try to answer the question, it's obvious that Wiseau simply doesn't know how to keep a consistent character. Sure, Johnny might not have hit Lisa ''before'', but regardless of whether what he did qualifies as an actual ''hit'' per se, it does seem very reminiscent of actual domestic abuse situations, rendering the question of whether it were actually a hit moot. Keep in mind he did this more than once in the same damn scene. But again, I think that has more to do with Wiseau being unable to keep a character consistent with himself - Johnny gets outraged in an abusive way when being accused of ''[[IResembleThatRemark getting outraged in an abusive way]]''. That's clearly not the charcter Wiseau intended to write, it's Wiseau not realizing this is contradictory with Johnny's established persona.
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** Maybe they all have a similar football as a sign of frienship.
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** To actually try to answer the question, it's obvious that Wiseau simply doesn't know how to keep a consistent character. Sure, Johnny might not have hit Lisa ''before'', but regardless of whether what he did qualifies as an actual ''hit'' per se, it does seem very reminiscent of actual domestic abuse situations, rendering the question of whether it were actually a hit moot. Keep in mind he did this more than once in the same damn scene. But again, I think that has more to do with Wiseau being unable to keep a character consistent with himself - Johnny gets outraged in an abusive way when being accused of ''getting outraged in an abusive way''. That's clearly not the charcter Wiseau intended to write, it's Wiseau not realizing this is contradictory with Johnny's established persona.

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** To actually try to answer the question, it's obvious that Wiseau simply doesn't know how to keep a consistent character. Sure, Johnny might not have hit Lisa ''before'', but regardless of whether what he did qualifies as an actual ''hit'' per se, it does seem very reminiscent of actual domestic abuse situations, rendering the question of whether it were actually a hit moot. Keep in mind he did this more than once in the same damn scene. But again, I think that has more to do with Wiseau being unable to keep a character consistent with himself - Johnny gets outraged in an abusive way when being accused of ''getting ''[[IResembleThatRemark getting outraged in an abusive way''.way]]''. That's clearly not the charcter Wiseau intended to write, it's Wiseau not realizing this is contradictory with Johnny's established persona.
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** Well, save for Denny when they’re in tuxes.

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** *** Well, save for Denny when they’re in tuxes.
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My apologies, different ball.


* Who owns the football? Denny is holding it the first time we see it on the rooftop, then Mark is holding it in the next rooftop scene, then Johnny takes it, and then Denny arrives with it in both football-playing scenes.

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* Who owns the football? Denny Mark is holding it the first time we see it on the rooftop, then Mark is holding it in the next rooftop scene, then Johnny takes it, and then Denny arrives with it in both football-playing scenes.
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* Who owns the football? Mark is holding it the first time we see it on the rooftop, and then Denny arrives with it in both football-playing scenes.

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* Who owns the football? Mark Denny is holding it the first time we see it on the rooftop, then Mark is holding it in the next rooftop scene, then Johnny takes it, and then Denny arrives with it in both football-playing scenes.
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* Who owns the football? Mark is holding it the first time we see it on the rooftop, and then Denny arrives with it in both football-playing scenes.
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*** Maybe his name is Christopher and he omitted the “tophe”.
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** Well, save for Denny when they’re in tuxes.
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*** Maybe he's just pretending to be their friend to get material for a thesis he's writing? You probably wouldn't find so many clearly insane people in one social circle anywhere else.
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** [[ItMakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Okay, chill out there Gramaha, Supreme Leader of the Astra Galactic Command. Just hold your wiener for five minutes and relax. The cash ison its way.]]

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** [[ItMakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Okay, chill out there Gramaha, Supreme Leader of the Astra Galactic Command. Just hold your wiener for five minutes and relax. The cash ison its way.Okay, chill out there Gramaha, Supreme Leader of the Astra Galactic Command. Just hold your weiner for five minutes and relax. The cash is on its way.]]

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