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** Fear is often an irrational, illogical emotion. For instance, someone who likes to do extreme dangerous sports could still freak out at the mere sight of any harmless spider. Also, RuleOfFunny. Her EekAMouse scene is one of the funniest part of the movie.
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* Madame Medusa lives in (or at least is hiding out in) a derelict steamboat in a desolate swamp. She has two pet crocodiles that are obedient to her. So why does she totally freak out at the sight of a tiny mouse? It's not like they'd be carrying some horrible disease that she could probably already get from the swamps mosquitoes or her crocodiles.
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* Madame Medusa lives in (or at least is hiding out in) a derelict steamboat in a desolate swamp. She has two pet crocodiles that are obedient to her. So why does she totally freak out at the sight of a tiny mouse? It's not like they'd be carrying some horrible disease that she could probably already get from theswamps swamp's mosquitoes or her crocodiles.
* Madame Medusa lives in (or at least is hiding out in) a derelict steamboat in a desolate swamp. She has two pet crocodiles that are obedient to her. So why does she totally freak out at the sight of a tiny mouse? It's not like they'd be carrying some horrible disease that she could probably already get from the
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* A good question for either movie, and any other movie that involves children talking to animals. What is going to happen to these kids when they get older? Will they eventually stop believing that animals can talk and assume they were speaking to imaginary friends the whole time? Or will they be placed in therapy and treated like they're crazy by the rest of the world for insisting they really did speak to animals?
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* A good question for either movie, and any other movie that involves children talking to animals. What is going to happen to these kids when they get older? Will they eventually stop believing that animals can talk and assume they were speaking to imaginary friends the whole time? Or will they be [[MistakenForInsane placed in therapy and treated like they'recrazy crazy]] by the rest of the world for insisting they really did speak to animals?
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*** Also, considering that Cody and Penny can speak to both animals and humans, it's probably that the animals are speaking English, rather than the kids are [[SpeaksFluentAnimal speaking fluent animal]]. As such, there probably isn't an age limit; the mice and Rufus could talk to adults if they so chose.
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* Why were the chairman and Bernard both so unsure about Bianca going on a mission without a co-agent? The implication is that [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero they're sexist]] and think does are weaker than bucks, but if that's the case, then why are does even allowed to be agents?
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** More pragmatically, Bianca might sense that another agent might try to undermine her or treat her like an inferior. Bernard meanwhile is not the type who would try to boss her around, and he's a NiceGuy as well.
** The Devil's Eye was wanted because it was so rare. Medusa had to be the one who found it. And maybe she thought that selling the other gems would be a long and tedious process, but the fame that would come with finding the Devil's Eye would be instantaneous.
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* What actually happened to Medusa after the end? Did she get eaten by the alligators, as seems to be the implication? I always thought so, as we don't see her get arrested or thrown in jail, but they obviously can't show someone get eaten in a G rated movie so they just heavily imply it.
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** Possibly she was eaten, or she had to stay up there for ages in terror with no food. And if she ever gets down, she'll have to live with the knowledge that Penny got the diamond and reaped the rewards.
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** Bianca flutters her eyelashes coquettishly at Bernard as she puts her perfume on just before going into the meeting, so it looks like she already fancies him. Maybe she's seen him around the Society headquarters before (Bernard seems to be quite well known to the delegates, who all greet him as they go in) and recognised his hidden depths.
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** While singing the anthem, the regular representatives in the meeting hall look rather pompous and self-important (or as much as they can for animated mice, anyway), and they have a little choreographed dance to go along with it. But Bernard, in the hallway where no one can see him, very earnestly has removed his hat and has his hand over his heart, passionately singing along like he actually believes in the mission that the song represents. Miss Bianca saw Bernard's commitment to the cause, even though he wasn't an agent proper.
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* What was Medusa going to do with Penny after she fulfilled her mission of retrieving the diamond? If she took her back to the orphanage, she new Penny would most likely inform on her.
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** Simple: the alligators and Medusa's shotgun. When Bernard and Bianca try to sneak through the front to get to Penny, Brutus and Nero easily find them and Medusa goes straight for the kill. They barely escape with their lives before going up to Penny's bedroom window once they can see her. Penny was unable to find the critters while running away every time because the alligators would catch up, meaning there was no opportunity for communication. While the swamp critters are brave, they don't have the layout of the boat the way that Penny does so they don't know what resources to use to trap the gators or get rid of the shotgun. Once they learn about the plan from the mice after convening, it becomes a CurbStompBattle in their favor.
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** How so? The only similarity I can think of is that it's about a kid looking for treasure in a flooded cave, and even that's not much of one--in ''Film/TheGoonies'', it's the entire plot, while it only occupies the climax of ''Disney/TheRescuers''.
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** How so? The only similarity I can think of is that it's about a kid looking for treasure in a flooded cave, and even that's not much of one--in ''Film/TheGoonies'', it's the entire plot, while it only occupies the climax of ''Disney/TheRescuers''.''WesternAnimation/TheRescuers''.
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* Did Bianca not notice that Jake was flirting with her? She kisses Bernard to wake him up during the flight to Australia and immediately accepts when Bernard proposes to her at the end of the movie, suggesting she knew the relationship had shifted to romantic and was happy with it. Did she not realize Jake was trying to put the moves on her, and if she did, why didn't she tell him she's "taken" already?
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*** If you think about it, Penny probably gave the Devil's Eye to people who would later one become her adoptive parents, who in turn, turned it into the museum and used the money from it to adopt Penny and maybe give back to the orphanage. That's one theory but that's what I'll go with.
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***If you think about it, Penny probably gave the Devil's Eye to people who would later one become her adoptive parents, who in turn, turned it into the museum and used the money from it to adopt Penny and maybe give back to the orphanage. That's one theory but that's what I'll go with.
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** If I were Penny, i wouldn't want to keep something that would just be a reminder of a time I was kidnapped and held against my will.
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** Seems like she should still get some kind of compensation (maybe a trust fund or the like) in exchange for finding it. Though perhaps she did and they just didn't mention it.
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*** In what world would they have allowed Penny to keep the diamond? It is an extremely valuable object of historical importance (remember it even has a name- the Devil's Eye; there must be lots of legend and history behind it). The one logical place where one thing would end would be the museum- and even if Penny had considered keeping it (which she wouldn´t because for starters, she never had a personal interest in the diamond), surely Bernard and Bianca would've advised against it, knowing it could get her in trouble. You could even argue that she would be at risk of being adopted by materialistic opportunists rather than truly loving parents if she had been known or suspected to still posess the diamond.
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*** In what world would they have allowed Penny to keep the diamond? It is an extremely valuable object of historical importance (remember it even has a name- the Devil's Eye; there must be lots of legend and history behind it). The one logical place where one thing would end would be the museum- and even if Penny had considered keeping it (which she wouldn´t because for starters, she never had a personal interest in the diamond), surely Bernard and Bianca would've advised against it, knowing it could get her in trouble. You could even argue that she would be at risk of being adopted by materialistic opportunists rather than truly loving parents if she had been known or suspected to still posess possess the diamond. diamond.
* Did Bianca not notice that Jake was flirting with her? She kisses Bernard to wake him up during the flight to Australia and immediately accepts when Bernard proposes to her at the end of the movie, suggesting she knew the relationship had shifted to romantic and was happy with it. Did she not realize Jake was trying to put the moves on her, and if she did, why didn't she tell him she's "taken" already?
* Did Bianca not notice that Jake was flirting with her? She kisses Bernard to wake him up during the flight to Australia and immediately accepts when Bernard proposes to her at the end of the movie, suggesting she knew the relationship had shifted to romantic and was happy with it. Did she not realize Jake was trying to put the moves on her, and if she did, why didn't she tell him she's "taken" already?
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** Also, it is never stated that all human children know animals can talk. It’s possible that only certain children are aware of it (specifically the ones who have befriended talking animals). This seems to at least be the case in Charlotte’s Web. Fern is apparently the only human character (adult or child) who understands the animals’ speech (besides Charlotte’s written messages in her web).
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*** In what world would they have allowed Penny to keep the diamond? It is an extremely valuable object of historical importance (remember it even has a name- the Devil's Eye; there must be lots of legend and history behind it). The one logical place where one thing would end would be the museum- and even if Penny had considered keeping it (which she wouldn´t because for starters, she never had a personal interest in the diamond), surely Bernard and Bianca would've advised against it, knowing it could get her in trouble. You could even argue that she would be at risk of being adopted by materialistic opportunists rather than truly loving parents if she had been known or suspected to still posess the diamond.
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**Note however that Kate (I think) only loses her ability to communicate with Pal as she gains the ability to communicate with older people. Cody and Penny both are older than Kate and they can clearly speak to both animals and other humans. I would think that if as adults they remember having talking animals as friends (and don’t dismiss those memories as childhood fantasies) they should not be surprised if they happen to meet talking animals again as adults; but since we never see them as adults it’s hard to be certain.
**Also, it is never stated that all human children know animals can talk. It’s possible that only certain children are aware of it (specifically the ones who have befriended talking animals). This seems to at least be the case in Charlotte’s Web. Fern is apparently the only human character (adult or child) who understands the animals’ speech (besides Charlotte’s written messages in her web).
**Also, it is never stated that all human children know animals can talk. It’s possible that only certain children are aware of it (specifically the ones who have befriended talking animals). This seems to at least be the case in Charlotte’s Web. Fern is apparently the only human character (adult or child) who understands the animals’ speech (besides Charlotte’s written messages in her web).
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* ''Disney/TheRescuers'': Anybody noticed how similar this movie is to ''Film/TheGoonies''?
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* So [=McLeach=] is a wanted man, as evidenced by the WANTED poster we see at the beginning. Given that his truck leaves a trail a blind imbecile could follow, you'd think he'd be easier to find.
** Who says he's the only one with that kind of truck? It could easily be a common model that a lot of people living in the outback have. Plus, I got the impression that they live in quite a sparsely populated area. While [=McLeach=] isn't book smart, he's street-smart enough to know to poach in areas that the Park Rangers usually don't look. (The sad thing is, that's actually TruthInTelevision...Park Rangers have ''other'' duties besides looking out for poachers, and there likely aren't enough to be constantly on the lookout for [=McLeach=]. That and park rangers aren't the police.)
** Who says he's the only one with that kind of truck? It could easily be a common model that a lot of people living in the outback have. Plus, I got the impression that they live in quite a sparsely populated area. While [=McLeach=] isn't book smart, he's street-smart enough to know to poach in areas that the Park Rangers usually don't look. (The sad thing is, that's actually TruthInTelevision...Park Rangers have ''other'' duties besides looking out for poachers, and there likely aren't enough to be constantly on the lookout for [=McLeach=]. That and park rangers aren't the police.)
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* There's a strange moment towards the end of ''Down Under'', when Bernard gets [=McCleach's=] truck shut off, and steals the keys. [=McCleach=] starts looking for the keys, while Bernard hides behind the pedal. Bernard then looks down at something on the floor of the truck, then has this look on his face like he just got an idea, and then.... we just see him jumping out of the truck with the keys, and running into Joanna. What was that all about?
** Presumably, he saw a way out of the truck, taking the keys with him to hinder [=McLeach=] further; realistically, he would look in the truck until he had exhausted every conceivable place they could have fallen into before it occurred to him that they may not be in the truck anymore. That and [=McLeach=] isn't very smart to begin with.
* About Croc Falls...is that water flowing ''uphill'' before it gets to the crest of it and goes down to the river?
** It's possible for water to be appearing to flow uphill depending on the grade of the area. Alternately, even if there is a slight uphill portion in the rivier, the current of the river is probably strong enough to overcome it (especially considering there's a huge honking waterfall at the end).
** Presumably, he saw a way out of the truck, taking the keys with him to hinder [=McLeach=] further; realistically, he would look in the truck until he had exhausted every conceivable place they could have fallen into before it occurred to him that they may not be in the truck anymore. That and [=McLeach=] isn't very smart to begin with.
* About Croc Falls...is that water flowing ''uphill'' before it gets to the crest of it and goes down to the river?
** It's possible for water to be appearing to flow uphill depending on the grade of the area. Alternately, even if there is a slight uphill portion in the rivier, the current of the river is probably strong enough to overcome it (especially considering there's a huge honking waterfall at the end).
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* A website cataloging various Disney mistakes and plotholes brought up a good point: [=McCleach=] keeps boasting that Marahute will make him rich, but he already got Marahute's mate; why didn't he get rich from THAT bird?
** Mcleach specifically wants her ''eggs'', [[CaptainObvious which male eagles can't lay.]]
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