History Headscratchers / ThePrestige

16th Aug '17 11:51:58 AM VeNoo
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** Answering both of these questions together: it's never stated in the film, but it's argued over on the Fridge page--and convincingly so--that [[spoiler:Fallon was the one who tied the Langford Double, killing Julia, and had the affair with Olivia. Borden stayed faithful to Sarah (he actually begs Fallon to help him out in repairing his marriage) and fathered Jess. Fallon ''did'' try to save Angier, though, during the drowning trick, and was the one arrested and hanged in the end while Borden walks away free.]] Of course, like Angier's situation above, [[spoiler:the twins had been sharing one life for so long that any "who's who" questions become academic at a certain point.]]

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** Answering both of these questions together: it's never stated in the film, but it's argued over on the Fridge page--and convincingly so--that [[spoiler:Fallon was the one who tied the Langford Double, killing Julia, and had the affair with Olivia. Borden stayed faithful to Sarah (he actually begs Fallon to help him out in repairing his marriage) and fathered Jess. Fallon ''did'' try to save Angier, though, during the drowning trick, and was the one arrested and hanged in the end while Borden walks away free.]] Of course, like Angier's situation above, [[spoiler:the twins had been sharing one life for so long that any "who's who" questions become academic at a certain point.]]]]

* This is what bugs me from the moment I learned that [[spoiler: Borden and Fallon are twins sharing the life]]. I can understand that [[spoiler:they would like to do that equal-time so that no one would feel pushed into obscurity not able to live his own life]]. But near the end [[spoiler:one of the twin loves his wife while another loves Olivia. Both have to spent time with women they don't love ruining their brother's relationship. Not only that but it's hinted that because of that Sarah becomes aware of the ruse.]] For me the obvious solution is to [[spoiler:drop the equal-time system and choose roles depending on with whom are you going to spend the time with! Of course it may not be possible to always safely exchange roles and probably they should sometimes do it wrong. But as result instead of the guy who half a time is a jerk to everyone they could create one that's loving and caring for majority of time. Sure he still cheats but his relationship with both women could go much less dramatic to the point when his wife could accept it (like "The affair with that woman helps him control his jerkish side") It may be less fair but wouldn't it bring more happiness for both of them?]]
3rd Aug '17 1:39:38 PM Sharlee
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** And all that's assuming that [[spoiler: ''either one'' of them is the "original". For all we know, the device might even '''destroy''' the original outright, instantaneously creating ''two'' copies, one in the same spot and one a short distance away. In which case, the whole second half of the film isn't the "real" Angier acting out vengeance for his wife, but clone after clone after clone acting out the legacy of bitterness and spite that their long-dead progenitor saddled them with over a woman ''none of them had ever even met''.]]
14th May '17 4:15:12 PM Atha
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** He was [[spoiler:also having an affair by necessity of their "two people one life" trick.]]
16th Apr '17 1:01:51 AM Mesmiranda
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** No timelines get split, created or destroyed in the movie. The machine works by duplicating Angier's body, which includes his brain: the location of all his memories, consciousness, thoughts and feelings. As for the matter itself, it probably works on the same principle as the replicators/transporters on ''Star Trek''.




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** Do you mean [[https://42thriller2013.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/picture_9-scaled1000.png this guy]] (warning: the image is a little creepy if you're not expecting it)? He's a stagehand that Angier hired specifically for his blindness--that way he can't see what's going on with the drowning tanks.




* [[spoiler: Which twin]] was really responsible for Angier's wife Julia's death?

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\n* [[spoiler: Which twin]] was really responsible for Angier's wife Julia's death?death?
** Answering both of these questions together: it's never stated in the film, but it's argued over on the Fridge page--and convincingly so--that [[spoiler:Fallon was the one who tied the Langford Double, killing Julia, and had the affair with Olivia. Borden stayed faithful to Sarah (he actually begs Fallon to help him out in repairing his marriage) and fathered Jess. Fallon ''did'' try to save Angier, though, during the drowning trick, and was the one arrested and hanged in the end while Borden walks away free.]] Of course, like Angier's situation above, [[spoiler:the twins had been sharing one life for so long that any "who's who" questions become academic at a certain point.]]
24th Mar '17 6:04:11 AM Typos
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* Did [[spoiler: the "good" twin]] also have an affair with Olivia? Or was he completely loyal to [[spoiler: Sarah]]?

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* Did [[spoiler: the "good" twin]] also have an affair with Olivia? Or was he completely loyal to [[spoiler: Sarah]]?Sarah]]?

* [[spoiler: Which twin]] was really responsible for Angier's wife Julia's death?
24th Mar '17 5:59:46 AM Typos
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* Who is the old man in the basement?

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* Who is the old man in the basement?basement?

* Did [[spoiler: the "good" twin]] also have an affair with Olivia? Or was he completely loyal to [[spoiler: Sarah]]?
16th Mar '17 5:46:17 AM Ymirsdaughter
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*** And reading skills weren't taught the same way in the 1800s. It would not have occured to him to skim.
8th Mar '17 1:44:47 PM Ymirsdaughter
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* Does Angier [[spoiler:create a new timeline]] every time he uses the machine? How does the machine [[spoiler:get enough of the right molecules to make another Angier]]?

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* Does Angier [[spoiler:create a new timeline]] every time he uses the machine? How does the machine [[spoiler:get enough of the right molecules to make another Angier]]?Angier]]?

* Who is the old man in the basement?
8th Mar '17 12:54:48 PM Ymirsdaughter
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** [[spoiler:Neither twin is overweight, which can be seen during the montage of them together near the end of the film. A fat waistline is simple enough to fake by stuffing something in your shirt (and how Fallon manages the fatty cheeklines is also shown in that montage).]]

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** [[spoiler:Neither twin is overweight, which can be seen during the montage of them together near the end of the film. A fat waistline is simple enough to fake by stuffing something in your shirt (and how Fallon manages the fatty cheeklines is also shown in that montage).]]]]

* Does Angier [[spoiler:create a new timeline]] every time he uses the machine? How does the machine [[spoiler:get enough of the right molecules to make another Angier]]?
1st Oct '16 3:59:55 PM MintyFreshDeath
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* Something that just struck me upon reading the Characters page: Fallon, Borden's associate, is [[spoiler: Borden's twin played by Christian Bale in a pair of spectacles ''and a fatsuit''. Christian Bale can pull this off today using makeup, prosthetics, and some clever camera work/CGI, but would ''Fallon'' be able to do the same thing--and then substitute perfectly for Borden if he's noticeably overweight?]] It gives new meaning to Borden's snarky line: "He vanishes, and then he reappears instantly on the other side of the stage - mute, overweight, and unless I'm mistaken, very drunk. It's astonishing, how does he do it?"

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* Something that just struck me upon reading the Characters page: Fallon, Borden's associate, is [[spoiler: Borden's twin played by Christian Bale in a pair of spectacles ''and a fatsuit''. Christian Bale can pull this off today using makeup, prosthetics, and some clever camera work/CGI, but would ''Fallon'' be able to do the same thing--and then substitute perfectly for Borden if he's noticeably overweight?]] It gives new meaning to Borden's snarky line: "He vanishes, and then he reappears instantly on the other side of the stage - mute, overweight, and unless I'm mistaken, very drunk. It's astonishing, how does he do it?"it?"
** [[spoiler:Neither twin is overweight, which can be seen during the montage of them together near the end of the film. A fat waistline is simple enough to fake by stuffing something in your shirt (and how Fallon manages the fatty cheeklines is also shown in that montage).]]
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