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14th Apr '16 7:18:02 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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** Just one more piece of evidence that all of the other children are illusionary constructs to help the main kid in his learning experience, along with [[HeyItsThatVoice Mandark]] showing up in the middle of the stack of presents and shutting up and apologizing with next to no actual CharacterDevelopment, and the girl knowing or realizing things the conductor should have known all along and revealed for safety's sake instead of leaving it up to one of the kids to figure out.

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** Just one more piece of evidence that all of the other children are illusionary constructs to help the main kid in his learning experience, along with [[HeyItsThatVoice Mandark]] Mandark showing up in the middle of the stack of presents and shutting up and apologizing with next to no actual CharacterDevelopment, and the girl knowing or realizing things the conductor should have known all along and revealed for safety's sake instead of leaving it up to one of the kids to figure out.
5th Jan '16 9:05:58 AM TT454
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** Also, keep in mind that every setback was inadvertently or otherwise caused by the Hero Boy, who the conductor knows from the beginning is having doubts as to the existence of Santa Claus. As they begin to stack on top of one another, it'd make sense for him to suspect that it was a mistake to let him on anyway, and that he was only using the opportunity to sabotage the trip for the other children. And how many times would anyone in a group of children, even excited children, feel the need to pull the emergency train on a train?

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** Also, keep in mind that every setback was inadvertently or otherwise caused by the Hero Boy, who the conductor knows from the beginning is having doubts as to the existence of Santa Claus. As they begin to stack on top of one another, it'd make sense for him to suspect that it was a mistake to let him on anyway, and that he was only using the opportunity to sabotage the trip for the other children. And how many times would anyone in a group of children, even excited children, feel the need to pull the emergency train brakes on a train? train?
25th Nov '15 9:47:08 PM whisperstar13
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** Also, keep in mind that every setback was inadvertently or otherwise caused by the Hero Boy, who the conductor knows from the beginning is having doubts as to the existence of Santa Claus. As they begin to stack on top of one another, it'd make sense for him to suspect that it was a mistake to let him on anyway, and that he was only using the opportunity to sabotage the trip for the other children. And how many times would anyone in a group of children, even excited children, feel the need to pull the emergency train on a train?
23rd Sep '15 12:06:25 PM whisperstar13
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** Mayhaps it's because the weight of the train, while monumental, is spread out over a large area across the ice, whereas the cracks formed by the pin were from a single, solitary, and ''sharp'' impact point.

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** Mayhaps it's because the weight of the train, while monumental, is spread out over a large area across the ice, and the train did nothing to actually pierce through the frozen surface, whereas the cracks formed by the pin were from a single, solitary, and ''sharp'' (compared to the train) impact point.
23rd Sep '15 12:04:21 PM whisperstar13
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** Mayhaps it's because the weight of the train, while monumental, is spread out over a large area across the ice, whereas the cracks formed by the pin were from a single, solitary, and ''sharp'' impact point.
28th Jul '15 12:15:32 PM whisperstar13
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** Maybe, but there does seem to be a legitimate need to get the train back on track when the ice on the frozen lake begins to crack, and for the hobo to get Hero Boy up to the engine before they hit the tunnel.
25th Dec '14 10:12:37 PM PrimeEvil
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*** The Gameboy Advanced version of the VideoGame has a cut-scene where the conductor states, "and you, miss. You better get back to shovelling coal," which basically confirms what the troper above said. As for taking her over the roof, the door in the old toy car was double locked, implying that there may be a padlock on the inside, making it impossible to travel into the toy car from the passenger cars.

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*** The Gameboy Advanced version of the VideoGame has a cut-scene where the conductor states, "and you, miss. You better get back to shovelling shoveling coal," which basically confirms what the troper above said. As for taking her over the roof, the door in the old toy car was double locked, implying that there may be a padlock on the inside, making it impossible to travel into the toy car from the passenger cars.


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** Don't forget, the ''Express'' is not only magical, but weirdly sentient. For example, it could ''sense'' the caribou crossing from miles off, but couldn't deal with them directly. Her solution: Get the two comedy engineers to where they'll see the offending herd. How to get them out there? Burn out the light-bulb so they can replace it.
20th Dec '14 9:43:57 AM Kinola
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** Hopefully there's enough magic around to prevent any deaths on the train.

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** Hopefully there's enough magic around to prevent any deaths on the train. Side theory: not only is the Hobo a ghost, but so is the conductor, the engineers, and even those guys who served the hot chocolate.
20th Dec '14 9:37:57 AM Kinola
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** Hopefully there's enough magic around to prevent any deaths on the train.
6th Dec '14 1:18:28 PM whisperstar13
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* This may be just me, but...the lessons the children learn at the end. The Hero Girl learns about leadership and that she should be confident in her own abilities, Billy learns that he should trust those who try to help him, and Lenny (the know-it-all boy) learns to...learn, and not be such a know-it-all. I understand that those are all aesops that can be applied to the real world. But the main character, Hero Boy, learns that he needs to 'believe', as though that's a major character flaw of his, and yet the only reason he was having doubts was because he was being taken on a train to the North Pole to supposedly meet with Santa Claus...not to mention the hobo who was there implying that it ''may'' have been nothing but a dream. Wouldn't most people be a little bit doubtful under those circumstances, and doesn't that make Hero Boy's ultimate lesson not as appropriate as the others?

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** Even if they were cold, anyways, it's not like that would affect anything in the story. Complaining about how cold it is would really just be a statement of the obvious, and it's not like there's much they could do to change that.
* This may be just me, is kind of morbid, but...what would the lessons people on the children learn at train have done if one of the end. The Hero Girl learns about leadership and that she should be confident in her own abilities, Billy learns that he should trust those who try to help him, and Lenny (the know-it-all boy) learns to...learn, and not be such a know-it-all. I understand that those are all aesops that can be applied to kids had died during the real world. But trip? Say, if the main character, Hero Boy, learns that he needs to 'believe', as though that's a major character flaw of his, and yet the only reason he was having doubts was because he was being taken on a train hadn't made it to the North Pole to supposedly meet with Santa Claus...not to mention the hobo who was there implying that it ''may'' engine in time before they hit Flattop Tunnel...What would they have been nothing but a dream. Wouldn't most people be a little bit doubtful under those circumstances, and doesn't that make Hero Boy's ultimate lesson not as appropriate as the others? done then?
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