History Headscratchers / TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime

16th Aug '16 10:21:28 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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[[folder: Sacred Forest Meadow]]
* Why are there so many Mad Scrubs on the paths through the Sacred Forest Meadow? Does Saria somehow have a way to get past them, or did they all only take root there after she shows up?
16th Aug '16 10:19:13 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** He didn't have the other two stones, actually - Zelda returned him to the point just prior to their first meeting, so he only had the Kokiri's Emerald.


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* If Ganondorf didn't curse the Forest Temple until seven years later, why didn't the Deku Tree Sprout start growing immediately after his predecessor died?
16th Aug '16 10:15:01 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** By the time you've learned her song, Link has already embarked on a journey that's taken him out of his home village and across the vast world of Hyrule, so he has a lot less time he can spend just hanging out with Saria. With that in mind, seems reasonable to me that she would want to speak to him face-to-face when she can, even though there might not be much to say.

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** By I'm pretty sure she only asks to speak to you directly if you're standing right next to her in the time you've learned Sacred Forest Meadow, in which case, it'd be reasonable for her song, to want to interact with Link has face-to-face - he's already left his home village and embarked on a journey that's taken him out of his home village and across the vast world vastness of Hyrule, so he has doesn't have a lot less of time he can to spend just hanging out with Saria. With her anymore. She wants to get the most out of that in mind, seems reasonable to me time that she would want to speak to him face-to-face when she can, even though there might not be much to say.say.
16th Aug '16 10:09:31 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* At some point in the game, if you play Saria's song, she says she'd rather talk to you face-to-face, but if you do that, she says you can hear her voice anytime by playing her song. (Of course, the gameplay answer is "go do something else, you don't need her advice right now", but the circular reference seems weird

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* At some point in the game, if you play Saria's song, she says she'd rather talk to you face-to-face, but if you do that, she says you can hear her voice anytime by playing her song. (Of course, the gameplay answer is "go do something else, you don't need her advice right now", but the circular reference seems weirdweird.)
** By the time you've learned her song, Link has already embarked on a journey that's taken him out of his home village and across the vast world of Hyrule, so he has a lot less time he can spend just hanging out with Saria. With that in mind, seems reasonable to me that she would want to speak to him face-to-face when she can, even though there might not be much to say.
9th Aug '16 2:51:49 AM Nyperold
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** How many of them tease and ostracize him for not having a fairy, anyway? Mido, yes, but most of the rest seem genuinely happy for him when they see he has one. As for not letting him leave the forest, they apparently have rumors about what happens to Kokiri who leave the forest, and didn't want it to happen to him. I'd go so far as to say most of them are Link's friends.




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** I don't recall anyone treating him poorly just because they think he's a Kokiri.



*** To expound, what the stone probably didn't know was that Link isn't a Kokiri. Though that particular stone is in an excellent position to learn that from the Deku Tree Sprout in the future, it hasn't heard it yet, and Link can't wear masks in the future.




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** Yep. Just like how, when you open a chest in the future, then go back to the past, it's "still" open.


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** I like to think that, since he didn't need them anymore, he gave all the Spiritual Stones back. Especially the Zora's Sapphire, with an explanation that he only needed it to open the Door of Time. Possibly the Kokiri Emerald went to Saria to give to the Deku Tree sprout, since it wouldn't be impeded in its growth by a curse now.


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[[folder: Face-to-face or with the song?]]
* At some point in the game, if you play Saria's song, she says she'd rather talk to you face-to-face, but if you do that, she says you can hear her voice anytime by playing her song. (Of course, the gameplay answer is "go do something else, you don't need her advice right now", but the circular reference seems weird
13th Jul '16 7:15:14 PM Maikou
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*** Because it's a ''hatchling''. The other poster implies she [[EatsBabies ate a newborn Cucco]]. Though Zelda might've just taken it as a pet.




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** There's probably a kind of slit in the side of the scabbard, like in VideoGame/HyruleWarriors


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** She came up with a plan that made sense [[ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime at that time (remember that they were kids)]], and connect the dots between a dream and a chance meeting. When fleeing the castle, she entrusted her hero the final keys to get the Triforce. She couldn't have known the Master Sword would seal Link, leaving the Triforce unguarded. In hiding, she learned/created MagicMusic to warp to each temple, and disguised herself as a Sheikah male. That's pretty wise for a nine-year-old kid, though admittedly she might have learned/created the warp songs AFTER getting the Triforce, but still.


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** [[WildMassGuessing Fi makes her pedestal a 7-year fast-forawrd/rewind button based on whether or not she's stuck in it after Link pulls her out the first time and awakens her. This means the entire multiverses by the way, including dimensional shenanigans. And with the Goddess of Time's help, Link and Navi retain their memories and items remain fresh/in good condition.]]
9th Jul '16 10:38:05 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Even in that case, putting Link to sleep still lacks logic - if worse comes to worst, Link could just go running into the Temple of Light and use the Triforce to subdue Ganondorf. Ganondorf getting the Triforce first only resulted from Link being put to sleep in the first place. (By this point, I sought an answer elsewhere, and it was suggested by someone that Fi was actually responsible - since this was the first time the sword had been drawn since ''Skyward Sword'', whose incarnation of the hero was 17, they suggested that Fi subconsciously may have gotten a bit confused or else not recognized Link at such a young age, and so sealed him in sleep (somehow, but Zelda does state that the sword itself was responsible) until he reached the proper age. Whereas in ''The Wind Waker'', Link was a bit older, the circumstances were different, and the Master Sword had been weakened significantly at that point.)
4th Jul '16 9:35:38 PM lordofthestars
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** Okay, been thinking about this one... What if it has nothing to do with whether or not Link is capable of defeating Ganondorf as a child, but more to do with the fact that attacking Ganon at any point before seven years had passed would have ended in failure? Whether somebody could see different timeline outcomes, or if it was just from a strategic viewpoint, it could just be that the best chance they had to have Link attack Ganon that would almost certainly end in Link defeating him, was seven years in the future. Maybe the plan had never been to let Link sleep that long, it was just more of a... "one last shot at this" deal and the sages wanted to make absolutely sure they didn't squander their last chance at defeating Ganon. Maybe, up until the timeskip, Ganon may have been far more active, and maybe he'd just started to get complacent in his ruling/calmed his ass down a little, and THAT was when Rauru decided to wake Link up.
4th Jul '16 3:21:42 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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[[folder: Ganondorf, a chessmaster?]]
* Where do people get the idea that throughout the first half of the game, Ganondorf had always been a cunning, manipulative chessmaster able of turning even the most unplanned events in his favor? They say that he probably killed the royal messengers for Darunia and King Zora, but we're never shown and never told that's what happened. They say that he "let Link collect the Spiritual Stones for him", when we're never given any indication he ''knew'' Link was looking for the stones until he waltzes into the Temple of Time and finds the gates to the Sacred Realm standing open. They say that he went so far as to forge a letter from Princess Ruto so that Link would go and save her, even though he had to find the Zora's Sapphire anyway. Apart from him lying to the King about his allegiance, we're never given hints that he did or knew about any of this - it's all just what people are suggesting happened.
2nd Jun '16 10:36:14 PM JaidynReiman
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** Even when Ocarina of Time first released there was some indication of this, but Link Between worlds further drives home the point: The Seven Maidens and the Seven Sages of LBW are descendants of the original Sages from Ocarina of Time. Provides some interesting complications when it comes to Saria... LBW even fixes the LTTP problem of all the Maidens being Hylian thing with a Zora Sage and a Hylian who looks like he might somehow also be descent from a Goron, however that works. Plus, Ruto already kinda implied that crossbreeding between Zoras and Hylians may in fact be possible.
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