History Headscratchers / TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime

2nd Jun '16 10:36:14 PM JaidynReiman
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** Even when Ocarina of Time first released there was some indication of this, but Link Between worlds further drives home the point: The Seven Maidens and the Seven Sages of LBW are descendants of the original Sages from Ocarina of Time. Provides some interesting complications when it comes to Saria... LBW even fixes the LTTP problem of all the Maidens being Hylian thing with a Zora Sage and a Hylian who looks like he might somehow also be descent from a Goron, however that works. Plus, Ruto already kinda implied that crossbreeding between Zoras and Hylians may in fact be possible.
2nd Jun '16 10:19:31 PM JaidynReiman
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*** Its an interesting idea, but doesn't add up given the ending of Ocarina of Time. In Wind Waker the Great Deku Tree states that the Kokiri took on the form of Koroks after the seas rose. In the Ocarina of Time ending the Kokiri are still human at Lon Lon Ranch, and without their fairies as well (so it can't be argued that the fairies are what keeps them in human form either, since they don't have them here).
18th Apr '16 2:17:48 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** I thought I remembered from somewhere the developers stating that the Kokiri leaving the forest to attend the party is what caused them to turn into the Koroks in ''The Wind Waker''. If this were true, then I'm not sure why the Kokiri would've thought it safe to leave the woods when it really wasn't, but at least it didn't turn out as bad as they'd expected it to.
14th Apr '16 7:21:09 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* As is confirmed in ''Hyrule Historia'', at the end of the game, Link is returned to the time of his first visit to Castle Town, having just defeated Queen Gohma and witnessed the death of the Great Deku Tree, meaning he would have to have had the Kokiri's Emerald with him when he went to warn Zelda about Ganondorf. So what became of the stone after he had changed his future? With the Deku Tree dead, did he just leave it with Zelda before venturing off to look for Navi in the Lost Woods, or is it possible he gave it to Mido or Saria?
12th Apr '16 11:08:05 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** ...Not a bad explanation, but I'm not sure why that would be. Sure, Link resorts to using the Megaton Hammer or the Biggoron's Sword after Ganon knocks away the Master Sword during the final battle, but if he'd simply been allowed to wield the Master Sword as a child, rather than being sealed away, Ganondorf could never have transformed into Ganon anyway. (Plus, can't Deku Nuts be used just as effectively in the final battle, anyway?) And even then, I still don't see why Link couldn't just be aged up magically, or something, rather than having to sleep for seven years while it happened naturally.
8th Apr '16 2:26:36 AM syrusdark
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** By the time you get to the Temple of Time, Ganondorf has ''already'' conquered Hyrule Castle. Zelda would have no reason to flee otherwise, and the dead soldier implies there was a battle, even if the people of Castle Town seem blissfully unaware of it. So, at that point, grabbing the magic sword and the power of the gods to defeat the evil tyrant seems like a great idea. Now, why Zelda's plan was grabbing the Triforce from the beginning, is anyone's guess.
8th Apr '16 2:21:33 AM syrusdark
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** Extracting the Triforce from a corpse is exactly what happens in the very first Zelda game, so it's not like there isn't precedent. Ganondorf just didn't kill Zelda on the spot because he's an arrogant fool who likes to play with his "victims", Link would have gone after him anyways.

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** Extracting the Triforce from a corpse is exactly what happens in the very first Zelda game, so it's not like there isn't precedent. Ganondorf just didn't kill Zelda on the spot because he's an arrogant fool who likes to play with his "victims", Link would have gone after him anyways. It's also worth noting that when the three chosen ones are together in the same room, Ganondorf mentions how their crests are resonating and the Triforce is becoming one again. So there is no ritual, they just need to physically get the pieces together within a certain distance of each other and wait for a while. This is also consistent with Wind Waker, where, despite him saying he had stolen the Triforce of Wisdom already, the piece comes out of Zelda's body, and they only come out after Link has joined them. He only incapacitated both Link and Zelda so he would be the only one capable of touching it and making a wish.
8th Apr '16 2:16:08 AM syrusdark
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** Extracting the Triforce from a corpse is exactly what happens in the very first Zelda game, so it's not like there isn't precedent. Ganondorf just didn't kill Zelda on the spot because he's an arrogant fool who likes to play with his "victims", Link would have gone after him anyways.
7th Apr '16 5:27:21 AM syrusdark
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*** Freeing Ruto is just a matter of melting some ice (with magic fire, if it was red ice, but it's not like blue fire is hard to come by), and getting to the dangerous places he goes to when he teaches Link the teleport songs is rather easy when you know the songs already (with the exception of the Ice Cavern, as the song doesn't lead you there, but he could have just sneaked behind Link in this case). We never see any hint that Sheik has any real combat abilities, other than an artwork that depicts him wielding a shortsword. For all we know, Impa only trained Zelda to be stealthy, not a warrior. After all, she knew very well that the Hero of Time would need to do all the fighting, the Princess of Destiny just had to stay alive until then, and give out some knowledge and magic.
7th Apr '16 4:58:03 AM syrusdark
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** What use would the Gerudo be as a conquering army or raiders ''after'' Hyrule has been conquered? We never see the actual conquest (not even the invasion of Hyrule Castle when you're a kid), for all we know the Gerudo were in fact Ganon's main fighting force then, but afterwards they were just left to guard the desert. It's also worth noting that the Gerudo we meet do follow "the great Ganondorf", and any dissidents get brainwashed and forced to do so.
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