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** Indeed. Likely they camped there specifically 'cos that rock would shield them in the event that the sun came up before they noticed; they could huddle up against it for the day and avoid the direct light hitting them.
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** Look at the trolls across all six movies; they come in a number of different shapes and sizes. Since trolls come in various different breeds anyway it's not that big of a stretch to assume they also have varying intelligence and reaction to sunlight.
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** Sure Gandalf says Elven blades glow but just because elves make blades that glow around orcs doesn't mean they make ''all'' their blades glow. Indeed that would be rather a problem in battle; a whole army's worth of glowing swords would make it almost impossible to see the enemy coming and indeed those three swords are the only ones the Professor mentions glowing anywhere in either book. So only some Elven blades glow. In the book that includes Orcist and Glamdring, in the films it doesn't. Not that big of deal. As for the Goblin kings screaming about how Gandalf's sword is glowing it is reflecting about a thousand torches at the time.
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** Sure Gandalf says Elven blades glow but just because elves make blades that glow around orcs doesn't mean they make ''all'' their blades glow. Indeed that would be rather a problem in battle; a whole army's worth of glowing swords would make it almost impossible to see the enemy coming and indeed those three swords are the only ones the Professor mentions glowing anywhere in either book. So only some Elven blades glow. In the book that includes Orcist and Glamdring, in the films it doesn't. Not that big of a deal. As for the Goblin kings screaming about how Gandalf's sword is glowing it is reflecting about a thousand torches at the time.
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** Sure Gandalf says Elven blades glow but just because elves make blades that glow around orcs doesn't mean they make ''all'' their blades glow. Indeed that would be rather a problem in battle; a whole army's worth of glowing swords would make it almost impossible to see the enemy coming and indeed those three swords are the only ones the Professor mentions glowing anywhere in either book. So only some Elven blades glow. In the book that includes Orcist and Glamdring, in the films it doesn't. Not that big of deal. As for the Goblin kings screaming about how Gandalf's sword is glowing it is reflecting about a thousand torches at the time.
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** Plus he just ''barely'' makes it when he jumps. It's doubtful he was sure of his ability there.
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** [[WordOfSaintPaul For what it's worth]] in the interviews on the DVDs ChristopherLee seemed to believe he was still basically on the side of the good guys at this point, though already heading down a bad road.
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** [[WordOfSaintPaul For what it's worth]] in the interviews on the DVDs extras ChristopherLee seemed to believe he was still basically on the side of the good guys at this point, though already heading down a bad road.
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** [[WordOfSaintPaul For what it's worth]] in the interviews on the DVDs ChristopherLee seemed to believe he was still basically on the side of the good guys at this point, though already heading down a bad road.
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** Its legs and mouthparts are also completely different from the spiders'.
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** And in a society where even kings don't necessarily marry, it would make sense if an unwed king without any younger brothers could simply ''proclaim'' that whomever he chooses can be his heirs. In Thorin's case, he chose his nephews.
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** The Master clearly had imposed weapons restrictions on the people of Laketown. The armory would've had enough weapons to equip the Master's own guards, but not the whole population.
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*Why would anybody (and Bard in particular) keep trusting Alfrid seemingly important charges like night watch or keeping an eye on people, when he is a well known useless wretch that will scurry away from his duties at the slightiest chance?
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** What is more jarring is that when Elrond reads the runes on the map in the first movie, he actually says "the ''setting Sun'' with the last light of Durin's Day". The second movie shortens it to just "last light of Durin's Day", but then why did Elrond explicitly say "setting Sun"? Did Peter Jackson change his mind between the two movies in how he wants to play the scene out?
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** Before Bilbo pulled the lever, you can see some extra empty barrels that were dropped as well.
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** Before Bilbo pulled the lever, you can see some extra empty barrels that were dropped as well.
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** Possibly she's the reason why, decades later, there isn't an army of ''spiders'' fighting alongside Sauron's other forces in the War of the Ring. If Tauriel can really claim to have a love left at the trilogy's end, it's the forest: if she can't share her life with a guy, she can spend it restoring the Mirkwood to the Greenwood as best she can.
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** Possibly she's the reason why, decades later, there isn't an army of ''spiders'' fighting alongside Sauron's other forces in the War of the Ring. If Tauriel can really claim to have a love left at the trilogy's end, it's the forest: if she can't share her life with a guy, she can spend it restoring the Mirkwood to the Greenwood as best she can. So long as Thranduil's foresters don't find and/or report her, she may as well hunt BigCreepyCrawlies and trespassing orcs to work through her grief.
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* It could be a spider that'd molted very recently, so its exoskeleton wasn't as hard or dark as the others'.
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*** Actually elves seem to be somewhat solitary creatures even amongst their own kind. Most of them seem to make a small handful of friends and keep them for life, and then spend the rest of their lives mourning them if they're lost. It would explain why Thranduil and even Elrond tend to be on the more melancholy side at times... they've been through enough wars to lose more than a few friends, which has left them with an eternal burden of mourning them. Elrond has responded by becoming a bit of a curmudgeon but making new friends, but primarily only among similarly long-lived races, Thranduil seems to have done his best to make himself emotionally distant even from his own son. Tauriel could conceivably be a bit of a loner even among her own kind, and after losing Kili, the one person she'd ever truly opened her heart to, she may have just decided the burden was too much and decided to sail for Valinor.
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** It depends on how Beorn's shape-changing magic works. Perhaps he's a man with the soul of a bear, and that's why he can become a bear. And that manacle is no longer just a manacle, but a shackle that has been placed on Beorn's soul, symbolic of the pain he's suffered and what he's lost.
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*** Indeed, and all of this is in service to something the books tend to be a bit wanting on... characterization. Having Thorin be an adult during Smaug's assault means he's losing a way of life that he's known for years rather than being a dimly-held childhood memory. (It also helps with the idea of the assault on Moria being relatively soon after and Thorin being an adult to take part.) Balin being older than him allows him to have that mentor role so that Thorin can have a surrogate father figure who's showing concern for him personally, as family, rather than merely respect as their king.
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*** Alternatively, other trolls can talk, but just have nothing to say, as we never see any in any situations where they'd feel particularly conversational. In fact, they're mostly seen in battles. Also, Tom, Bert and William are explicitly mountain trolls, not cave trolls like the one(s) we see in ''The Fellowship of the Ring''. It's possible different kinds of trolls have differing levels of intelligence and/or speech abilities. In other words, there's lots of reasons why those trolls would speak and others would just growl, yell and roar.
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** Tom, Bert and William are leftovers from when Tolkien initially conceived of ''The Hobbit'' as a children's fairy tale, and only rewrote it later to fit in with ''The Lord of the Rings''. They don't fit into the larger legendarium of Middle-Earth because they're not really meant to, plot or character-wise.
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*** Sting's warning seems to be meant not for "orcs may be in range of our city," but for "orcs are about to threaten me personally." Bofur has an entire conversation with Bilbo and only notices the glow at the end, when the goblins are about to spring their trap. Later, the glow goes out when Gollum kills the one goblin in range, even though the rest of Goblin-Town isn't that far away. Likewise, in ''Fellowship'', it's not certain when Sting starts glowing, but by the time Aragorn notices it, the Uruk-hai are just around the corner.
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** It was a Boy's choir that sang the Fellowship song.
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*** Mirkwood has been her home her entire life, though, and she's more than just the sum of feelings for two guys. Presumably she has friends, and Thranduil did kind of raise her (not that that's addressed much in the films themselves). It's unfortunate that nobody behind the camera seems to have realized fans would like to actually know what her eventual fate was, especially since we last see her completely brokenhearted.
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* While it seems rude that Gandalf invites the whole company of Dwarves to Bilbo's before Bilbo agrees to join, it makes sense since he was sure that Bilbo would and needed to empty his pantry before going on an adventure [[spoiler: that ended up lasting a whole year.]]
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