History Headscratchers / TheGiver

30th Aug '17 4:09:49 AM OrangenChan
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* What happens to the bodies of those who are Released or otherwise die?

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* What happens to the bodies of those who are Released or otherwise die?die?
** Well, in the case of Releases, I'm pretty sure it's mentioned that [[spoiler:the baby Jonas's dad released was put through a chute]], so it's likely that they're taken out and buried somewhere outside the community? It's possible something similar happens for "normal" deaths, too, though it's not mentioned.
28th Aug '17 5:49:22 PM Homemaderat
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*** After re-reading Son it dawned on me, we were on it here. As witnessed by Claire, it can be reversed which means it has to be that they can see it but they can't perceive it. But at the same time as shown in Son the babies are specifically kept in this closed nurturing center for their early years, if that building has no colors in it they wouldn't be able to recognize color as they got older without those formative memories. And under this theory the seeing beyond thing would mean Jonas' gift of remote viewing slowly rewrote his vision to what it should be. The Giver on the other hand his gift worked through his ears, so it again flows that as he gave up his memories to Jonas he'd lose the ability to see color. Jonas however probably has never been able to understand music without the memories. Gabe having been brought into the community by Jonas' father early, probably never got that conditioning in the first place.
23rd Aug '17 8:48:18 PM Vic92
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** The doctors of the Community likely use sperm retrieval or extraction in some men, it should be a simple operation (in real life, it isn't complicated). In that way, they avoid any sexual stimule.

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** The doctors of the Community should likely use sperm retrieval or and extraction in some men, it should be a simple operation (in real life, it isn't complicated). In that way, they avoid any sexual stimule.
23rd Aug '17 8:47:05 PM Vic92
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** The doctors of the Community likely use sperm retrieval or extraction in some men, it should be a simple operation (in real life, it isn't complicated). In that way, they avoid any sexual stimule.
19th Aug '17 8:35:21 PM LupineMoon
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** Cases like the female Seven are probably seen as "backup" (so if say, Jonas hadn't turned out right, she'd be selected as the next Receiver instead). I don't think it meant that she'd be chosen as Jonas's successor, or something like that. The idea of the "extras" simply not being told makes the most sense to me, though it does make for some great FanficFuel to imagine what their lives would be like.

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** Cases like the female Seven are probably seen as "backup" (so if say, Jonas hadn't turned out right, she'd be selected as the next Receiver instead). I don't think it meant that she'd be chosen as Jonas's successor, or something like that. The idea of the "extras" simply not being told makes the most sense to me, though it does make for some great FanficFuel to imagine what their lives would be like.like.

* What happens to the bodies of those who are Released or otherwise die?
12th Jul '17 7:16:49 PM sororita
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*** its been shown that language can affect a person's perceptions of the world around them, if nobody ever learns the name of colors then they are effectivly colorblind. it was also shown that the Reciever learns colors, or at least their names, through the Giver.

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*** its it's been shown that language can affect a person's perceptions of the world around them, if nobody ever learns the name of colors then they are effectivly effectively colorblind. it was also shown that the Reciever Receiver learns colors, or at least their names, through the Giver.
12th Jul '17 7:15:09 PM sororita
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*** its been shown that language can affect a person's perceptions of the world around them, if nobody ever learns the name of colors then they are effectivly colorblind. it was also shown that the Reciever learns colors, or at least their names, through the Giver.
3rd Jun '17 11:22:06 PM OrangenChan
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* If there are several light-eyed children per generation (Jonas and a female Seven if I recall correctly, for example) who are only a few years apart and not timed to be the next Receiver, does that mean that they're just hoping one will come along at the right time? What happens to others with light eyes who aren't selected? I'm imagining they're like Muggle-born wizards who are never told about their power and can do things people can't explain, since no one seems to know exactly what the Giver/Receiver can do.

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\n*** I guess that ''could'' happen, but it seems unlikely? The thing with Jonas seeing that the apple was red happened before the selection ceremony, if memory serves. So if the Elders found out about that somehow, it probably contributed to him being selected as the receiver. They probably monitor all of the light-eyed kids to see if they go through anything similar to that.

* If there are several light-eyed children per generation (Jonas and a female Seven if I recall correctly, for example) who are only a few years apart and not timed to be the next Receiver, does that mean that they're just hoping one will come along at the right time? What happens to others with light eyes who aren't selected? I'm imagining they're like Muggle-born wizards who are never told about their power and can do things people can't explain, since no one seems to know exactly what the Giver/Receiver can do.do.
** Cases like the female Seven are probably seen as "backup" (so if say, Jonas hadn't turned out right, she'd be selected as the next Receiver instead). I don't think it meant that she'd be chosen as Jonas's successor, or something like that. The idea of the "extras" simply not being told makes the most sense to me, though it does make for some great FanficFuel to imagine what their lives would be like.
31st May '17 10:27:12 AM LupineMoon
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** If it was really necessary to distinguish "blue" eyes from other sorts of "light" ones - say, if ''only'' truly blue-eyed people are potential Receivers and gray-eyed ones won't do - they could always use an optical spectrometer to check the eye color's wavelength. It'd report a number that would match that of other blue eyes, even if the person using the device can't see the distinction.

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** If it was really necessary to distinguish "blue" eyes from other sorts of "light" ones - say, if ''only'' truly blue-eyed people are potential Receivers and gray-eyed ones won't do - they could always use an optical spectrometer to check the eye color's wavelength. It'd report a number that would match that of other blue eyes, even if the person using the device can't see the distinction.distinction.
** I'm now imagining someone with "light" eyes, say green accidentally getting Selected as the Receiver who doesn't actually have the power to See Beyond.

* If there are several light-eyed children per generation (Jonas and a female Seven if I recall correctly, for example) who are only a few years apart and not timed to be the next Receiver, does that mean that they're just hoping one will come along at the right time? What happens to others with light eyes who aren't selected? I'm imagining they're like Muggle-born wizards who are never told about their power and can do things people can't explain, since no one seems to know exactly what the Giver/Receiver can do.
22nd Dec '16 5:15:43 PM Homemaderat
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*** Maybe we can take this one step further. What if the original receiver received his gift from the TradeMaster? The deal being in exchange for taking the memories, he must always stay in the community. Sounds like a deal he would make.

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*** Maybe we can take this one step further. What if the original receiver received his gift from the TradeMaster? Trademaster? The deal being in exchange for taking the memories, he must always stay in the community. Sounds like a deal he would make.
*** Honestly if we add the notion the community in the Giver was set up all from a deal by the Trademaster, we've given Lois Lowry a very good story for a prequel.
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