History Headscratchers / TheDayAfter

24th Oct '15 2:19:01 AM BNSF1995
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*** Not just overkill. Planners had to assume that a large number of missiles would miss their targets (Against "hard" targets like ICBM silos, strategic command posts, and some megastructures, even a nuke has to hit very close), be shot down by [=SAMs=] (exceptionally difficult, but possible), or simply malfunction (rain, manufacturing flaws, blast from other warheads). After the Soviet Union fell, documents were obtained suggesting that Soviet planners assumed a thirty percent failure rate, and a high number of misses. That's why they targeted so many missiles in the first place.

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*** Not just overkill. Planners had to assume that a large number of missiles would miss their targets (Against "hard" targets like ICBM silos, strategic command posts, and some megastructures, even a nuke has to hit very close), be shot down by [=SAMs=] (exceptionally difficult, but possible), or simply malfunction (rain, manufacturing flaws, blast from other warheads).warheads, or a malfunction with the launch vehicle owing to lack of maintenance). After the Soviet Union fell, documents were obtained suggesting that Soviet planners assumed a thirty percent failure rate, and a high number of misses. That's why they targeted so many missiles in the first place.
24th Oct '14 1:58:46 PM PennyDreadful
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** She wore the ribbon around her neck, not on her head.
27th Jul '14 3:48:01 AM SandyGunfox
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** In RealLife they use color-coded tags. The reason they use color coded tags is that if they run out of tags, they can still rely on the color codes with whatever happens to be convenient - scraps of paper, cloth, markers, or in this case, ribbon. Black is code for "don't waste medical attention on this person, they are doomed." The real life tags have red (meaning needs immediate medical intervention) and black on the same tear-off strip so that the red tag can be quickly removed if immediate medical help is not available.

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** In RealLife they use color-coded tags. The reason they use color coded tags is that if they run out of tags, they can still rely on the color codes with whatever happens to be convenient - scraps of paper, cloth, markers, or in this case, ribbon. Black is code for "don't waste medical attention on this person, they are doomed." The real life tags have red (meaning needs immediate medical intervention) and black on the same tear-off strip so that the red tag can be quickly removed if immediate medical help is not available.available.
** It's just a ribbon. There's no particular reason why it has to be a ''hair'' ribbon. Denise was merely making tragic conversation. Steven and many other people are visibly wearing it on their arms.
26th Jul '14 2:30:24 PM SandyGunfox
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** The idea was that it was all they had.

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** The idea was that it was all they had.had.
** In RealLife they use color-coded tags. The reason they use color coded tags is that if they run out of tags, they can still rely on the color codes with whatever happens to be convenient - scraps of paper, cloth, markers, or in this case, ribbon. Black is code for "don't waste medical attention on this person, they are doomed." The real life tags have red (meaning needs immediate medical intervention) and black on the same tear-off strip so that the red tag can be quickly removed if immediate medical help is not available.
16th Oct '13 7:38:00 AM nobrandhero
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** Cities aren't the only targets, you also target the other side's missile sites. These missile sites are dispersed so as to require individual targeting. This means you need at least one nuke for every nuke the other side has, plus all the others you need to hit other targets. The other side, of course, has the same philosophy, so they deploy more nukes to hit your nukes, you deploy more nukes to hit their nukes, and so on and so forth. Throw in ballistic missile submarines which can take out your nukes but cannot be themselves targeted in return, and your grand strategy eventually becomes "rocks fall, everyone dies".
21st Sep '13 4:45:00 PM m8e
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*** In addition, Soviet strategists were convinced that the US intended to launch a first strike against Soviet missile bases at some point[[hottip:*:In a sense we did have such a policy, in that we never renounced a first-strike posture in GodzillaThreshold situations such as the one presented in the film-- the Soviets had, at least publicly]], so they built massive redundancy into their targeting systems. Kansas City itself was likely targeted in real life by fifteen or more missiles, all originating from different launch sites, and each target - Whiteman Air Force Base, the ICBM sites, the Kansas City Plant - was likely similarly overtargeted.

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*** In addition, Soviet strategists were convinced that the US intended to launch a first strike against Soviet missile bases at some point[[hottip:*:In point[[note]]In a sense we did have such a policy, in that we never renounced a first-strike posture in GodzillaThreshold situations such as the one presented in the film-- the Soviets had, at least publicly]], publicly[[/note]], so they built massive redundancy into their targeting systems. Kansas City itself was likely targeted in real life by fifteen or more missiles, all originating from different launch sites, and each target - Whiteman Air Force Base, the ICBM sites, the Kansas City Plant - was likely similarly overtargeted.
16th Nov '12 5:31:16 PM PatPayne
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*** In addition, Soviet strategists were convinced that the US intended to launch a first strike against Soviet missile bases at some point[[hottip:*:In a sence we did have such a policy, in that we never renounced a first-strike posture in GodzillaThreshold situations such as the one presented in the film-- the Soviets had, at least publicly]], so they built massive redundancy into their targeting systems. Kansas City itself was likely targeted in real life by fifteen or more missiles, all originating from different launch sites, and each target - Whiteman Air Force Base, the ICBM sites, the Kansas City Plant - was likely similarly overtargeted.

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*** In addition, Soviet strategists were convinced that the US intended to launch a first strike against Soviet missile bases at some point[[hottip:*:In a sence sense we did have such a policy, in that we never renounced a first-strike posture in GodzillaThreshold situations such as the one presented in the film-- the Soviets had, at least publicly]], so they built massive redundancy into their targeting systems. Kansas City itself was likely targeted in real life by fifteen or more missiles, all originating from different launch sites, and each target - Whiteman Air Force Base, the ICBM sites, the Kansas City Plant - was likely similarly overtargeted.
16th Nov '12 5:31:02 PM PatPayne
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*** In addition, Soviet strategists were convinced that the US intended to launch a first strike against Soviet missile bases at some point, so they built massive redundancy into their targeting systems. Kansas City itself was likely targeted in real life by fifteen or more missiles, all originating from different launch sites, and each target - Whiteman Air Force Base, the ICBM sites, the Kansas City Plant - was likely similarly overtargeted.

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*** In addition, Soviet strategists were convinced that the US intended to launch a first strike against Soviet missile bases at some point, point[[hottip:*:In a sence we did have such a policy, in that we never renounced a first-strike posture in GodzillaThreshold situations such as the one presented in the film-- the Soviets had, at least publicly]], so they built massive redundancy into their targeting systems. Kansas City itself was likely targeted in real life by fifteen or more missiles, all originating from different launch sites, and each target - Whiteman Air Force Base, the ICBM sites, the Kansas City Plant - was likely similarly overtargeted.
16th Nov '12 5:28:38 PM PatPayne
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*** Not just overkill. Planners had to assume that a large number of missiles would miss their targets (Against "hard" targets like ICBM silos, strategic command posts, and some megastructures, even a nuke has to hit very close), be shot down by [=SAMs=] (exceptionally difficult, but possible), or simply malfunction (rain, manufacturing flaws, blast from other warheads). After the Soviet union fell, documents were obtained suggesting that Soviet planners assumed a thirty percent failure rate, and a high number of misses. That's why they targeted so many missiles in the first place.

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** Also, the sheer number of nukes alone was intended as intimidation, as part of Mutually Assured Destruction -- essentially sending the message to the other side that no matter if even half their nuclear arsenal was destroyed in a first strike, there would still be enough to ensure the complete annihilation of the enemy.
*** Not just overkill. Planners had to assume that a large number of missiles would miss their targets (Against "hard" targets like ICBM silos, strategic command posts, and some megastructures, even a nuke has to hit very close), be shot down by [=SAMs=] (exceptionally difficult, but possible), or simply malfunction (rain, manufacturing flaws, blast from other warheads). After the Soviet union Union fell, documents were obtained suggesting that Soviet planners assumed a thirty percent failure rate, and a high number of misses. That's why they targeted so many missiles in the first place.
3rd Sep '12 5:16:41 AM frozen
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* Really, why are they using hair ribbons as a mark? How did that conversation go? "Hmm, how should we identify people with no chance of survival, many of whom are losing hair? I know! How about a hair ribbon? That's makes total sense!"

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* Really, why are they using hair ribbons as a mark? How did that conversation go? "Hmm, how should we identify people with no chance of survival, many of whom are losing hair? I know! How about a hair ribbon? That's makes total sense!"sense!"
** The idea was that it was all they had.
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