History Headscratchers / TheBreakfastClub

2nd Apr '16 7:21:35 PM kmwray1962
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*** Skipped class to go shopping. Her dad says it as he drops her off.

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*** Skipped class to go shopping. Her dad says it as he drops her off.off.
**** Bender - Fire Alarm, Claire - skipped class, Andrew - taped a kid's bare butt up in gym (the kid lost hair and skin, Brian - had a gun in his locker (his dad's) and Allison had nothing better to do (which implies she could have gotten out of it by simply asking why she was in detention)
12th Mar '16 5:56:21 AM Miumia
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** But it's pretty obvious during the movie that the discussion of "different cliques" is more about Claire and Andy vs Brian vs Bender vs Allison. Claire and Andy aren't ever put separately; they're both popular and from the same social circle (they actually talk at one point, one asking if the other is going to the party of an acquaintance they have in common, and it seems to confirm that they do interact socially sometimes or have friends in common). If anything, they're probably just not from the same classroom or have the same strict group of friends, but they're definitely from the same social sphere. I have to disagree about Allison and Bender, though, they're not that similar (not before the events of the movie anyway) out of first glance. Claire even tries to shame Bender into admitting that he wouldn't take Allison to one of his "vomit parties" (or whatever it's called) with his friends. Allison isn't "one of the bad kids", everyone just sees her as kinda crazy, which is not the same as Bender, who is implied to be a part of a group of delinquents (not of eccentrics, like Alison is). Bender also has a sort of reputation to maintain in his own clique, but it is that of a "bad" kind of reputation, unlike Claire's which is a "good" sort of reputation. Point is: when Claire says they'll all ignore each other on Monday, she's definitely not talking about her and Andy, but about how they'll both ignore the Allison and Brian, and how Bender will most likely ignore those two as well; Bender and Allison are not closer to become friends and start talking to each other as any of the others.

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** But it's pretty obvious during the movie that the discussion of "different cliques" is more about Claire and Andy vs Brian vs Bender vs Allison. Claire and Andy aren't ever put separately; they're both popular and from the same social circle (they actually talk at one point, one asking if the other is going to the party of an acquaintance they have in common, and it seems to confirm that they do interact socially sometimes or have friends in common). If anything, they're probably just not from the same classroom or have the same strict group of friends, but they're definitely from the same social sphere. I have to disagree about Allison and Bender, though, they're not that similar (not before the events of the movie anyway) out of first glance. Claire even tries to shame Bender into admitting that he wouldn't take Allison to one of his "vomit parties" (or whatever it's called) with his friends. Allison isn't "one of the bad kids", everyone just sees her as kinda crazy, which is not the same as Bender, who is implied to be a part of a group of delinquents (not of eccentrics, like Alison is). Bender also has a sort of reputation to maintain in his own clique, but it is that of a "bad" kind of reputation, unlike Claire's which is a "good" sort of reputation. Point is: when Claire says they'll all ignore each other on Monday, she's definitely not talking about her and Andy, but about how they'll both ignore the Allison and Brian, and how Bender will most likely ignore those two as well; Bender and Allison are not closer to become friends and start talking to each other as than any of the others.
12th Mar '16 5:55:31 AM Miumia
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** But it's pretty obvious during the movie that the discussion of "different cliques" is more about Claire and Andy vs Brian vs Bender vs Allison. Claire and Andy aren't ever put separately; they're both popular and from the same social circle (they actually talk at one point, one asking if the other is going to the party of an acquaintance they have in common, and it seems to confirm that they do interact socially sometimes or have friends in common). If anything, they're probably just not from the same classroom or have the same strict group of friends, but they're definitely from the same social sphere. I have to disagree about Allison and Bender, though, they're not that similar (not before the events of the movie anyway) out of first glance. Claire even tries to shame Bender into admitting that he wouldn't take Allison to one of his "vomit parties" (or whatever it's called) with his friends. Allison isn't "one of the bad kids", everyone just sees her as kinda crazy, which is not the same as Bender, who is implied to be a part of a group of delinquents (not of eccentrics, like Alison is). Bender also has a sort of reputation to maintain in his own clique, but it is that of a "bad" kind of reputation, unlike Claire's which is a "good" sort of reputation. Point is: when Claire says they'll all ignore each other on Monday, she's definitely not talking about her and Andy, but about how they'll both ignore the Allison and Brian, and how Bender will most likely ignore those two as well; Bender and Allison are not closer to become friends and start talking to each other as any of the others.
29th Dec '15 7:29:18 AM Pokejedservo
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* There is also Claire's fairly infamous moment where she tells Brian about how they will most likely forget about each-other come Monday morning at School since they all belong to different Social Cliques and would never fit in with each other. Many viewers wanted to hate her for that and accused her of being horribly selfish while certain viewers have considered it a case to be StrawmanHasAPoint and felt that she was right and they would just ignore each-other after that detention. However when you think about it the idea of them "being in cliques that are just too different" is not really true at all. After all Andy is a well known Athelete in School and is a BigManOnCampus in which Claire's rich schoolgirl friends would most likely be cool with Claire hanging out with Andy in fact they probably would be attracted to Andy since not only is he a known jock but also quite the pretty boy as well. And the only real difference between Bender and Allison's cliques is that she is a loner while Bender had friends before he was in that Detention on that day. However at a first glance Allison looked like one of the folks that Bender would hang out with (which might explain Bender's line "I've seen you before you know" that he said to Allison early in the film). Really when you think about it the only person amongst the five in which Claire's statement has any truth with would be Brian. Namely how Brian is way too much of a Nerd to be seen with the "Popular Kids" like Claire and Jocks like Andy, while Brian is a bit too clean and straight-laced to be with "Bad Kids" like Bender and Allison. (Especially considering how Brian knows that his mother would never approve of him hanging out with the latter two.) So in other words for the most part Claire's idea that they all would ignore each-other due to their far too different cliques is not really true when you think about it.
4th Oct '15 3:01:39 PM Badger96
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** Bender pulled the fire alarm as a prank. Not sure about Claire.

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** Bender pulled the fire alarm as a prank. Not sure about Claire.Claire.
***Skipped class to go shopping. Her dad says it as he drops her off.
10th Sep '15 2:07:14 PM AdamC
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* ''What'' did Claire and Bender do to get detention?

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* ''What'' did Claire and Bender do to get detention?detention?
** Bender pulled the fire alarm as a prank. Not sure about Claire.
6th Sep '15 5:19:21 PM 8BrickMario
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** Vernon wasn't reading Bender's file. It was of an unrelated kid named "Mr. Tearney." Possibly a faculty member and not even a student.

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** Vernon wasn't reading Bender's file. It was of an unrelated kid named "Mr. Tearney." Possibly a faculty member and not even a student.student.

* ''What'' did Claire and Bender do to get detention?
6th Sep '15 8:06:36 AM AdamC
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** No the lines actually stating Bender's shown signs of mental instability, that Vernon attribute to him being messed up suggesting he thinks he's crazy, it being the 80's it never occurs to them to wonder why he's like that.

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** No the lines actually stating Bender's shown signs of mental instability, that Vernon attribute to him being messed up suggesting he thinks he's crazy, it being the 80's it never occurs to them to wonder why he's like that.that.
** Vernon wasn't reading Bender's file. It was of an unrelated kid named "Mr. Tearney." Possibly a faculty member and not even a student.
9th Aug '15 6:11:56 AM Morgenthaler
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*** It takes more than a small joint to turn a physically adept athlete into a [[ReeferMadness bumbling idiot.]] That only happens in bad PSAs.

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*** It takes more than a small joint to turn a physically adept athlete into a [[ReeferMadness [[Film/ReeferMadness bumbling idiot.]] That only happens in bad PSAs.
6th Mar '15 12:49:46 AM jonfmorse
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**** You would be amazed how many teenagers have their first lots-of-things with other teenagers they just met.
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