History Headscratchers / TheBreakfastClub

3rd Oct '17 7:09:53 PM mouschilight
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** But it's pretty obvious during the movie that the discussion of "different cliques" is more about Claire and Andy vs Brian vs Bender vs Allison. Claire and Andy aren't ever put separately; they're both popular and from the same social circle (they actually talk at one point, one asking if the other is going to the party of an acquaintance they have in common, and it seems to confirm that they do interact socially sometimes or have friends in common). If anything, they're probably just not from the same classroom or have the same strict group of friends, but they're definitely from the same social sphere. I have to disagree about Allison and Bender, though, they're not that similar (not before the events of the movie anyway) out of first glance. Claire even tries to shame Bender into admitting that he wouldn't take Allison to one of his "vomit parties" (or whatever it's called) with his friends. Allison isn't "one of the bad kids", everyone just sees her as kinda crazy, which is not the same as Bender, who is implied to be a part of a group of delinquents, not of eccentrics like Alison. Bender also has a sort of reputation to maintain in his own clique, but it is that of a "bad" kind of reputation, unlike Claire's which is a "good" sort of reputation. Point is: when Claire says they'll all ignore each other on Monday, she's definitely not talking about her and Andy, but about how they'll both ignore Allison and Brian, and how Bender will most likely ignore those two as well; Bender and Allison are not closer to becoming friends and starting to talk to each other than any of the others.

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** But it's pretty obvious during the movie that the discussion of "different cliques" is more about Claire and Andy vs Brian vs Bender vs Allison. Claire and Andy aren't ever put separately; they're both popular and from the same social circle (they actually talk at one point, one asking if the other is going to the party of an acquaintance they have in common, and it seems to confirm that they do interact socially sometimes or have friends in common). If anything, they're probably just not from the same classroom or have the same strict group of friends, but they're definitely from the same social sphere. I have to disagree about Allison and Bender, though, they're not that similar (not before the events of the movie anyway) out of first glance. Claire even tries to shame Bender into admitting that he wouldn't take Allison to one of his "vomit parties" (or whatever it's called) with his friends. Allison isn't "one of the bad kids", everyone just sees her as kinda crazy, which is not the same as Bender, who is implied to be a part of a group of delinquents, not of eccentrics like Alison.Allison. Bender also has a sort of reputation to maintain in his own clique, but it is that of a "bad" kind of reputation, unlike Claire's which is a "good" sort of reputation. Point is: when Claire says they'll all ignore each other on Monday, she's definitely not talking about her and Andy, but about how they'll both ignore Allison and Brian, and how Bender will most likely ignore those two as well; Bender and Allison are not closer to becoming friends and starting to talk to each other than any of the others.







* The last five minutes. Ugh. Except for the jump on the football field, none of it made any damn sense whatsoever. Especially the [[spoiler: kissing]].

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\n* The last five minutes. Ugh. Except for the jump on the football field, none of it made any damn sense whatsoever. Especially the [[spoiler: kissing]].kissing.






** There were only five kids, and I did rather enjoy the two couples that came out of it (Andy and Alison in particular). But I personally don't like this choice as the poor guy was not only left alone and single to do his paper, but the cool kids actually got him to do their homework for them, both of which reinforce the fact that geeks are unpopular losers. John Hugehs' reasoning on why Brian was single is that he was too socially immature for a relationship, but that doesn't really work when Claire seems to want to date John because it'll piss off her parents.

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** There were only five kids, and I did rather enjoy the two couples that came out of it (Andy and Alison Allison in particular). But I personally don't like this choice as the poor guy was not only left alone and single to do his paper, but the cool kids actually got him to do their homework for them, both of which reinforce the fact that geeks are unpopular losers. John Hugehs' reasoning on why Brian was single is that he was too socially immature for a relationship, but that doesn't really work when Claire seems to want to date John because it'll piss off her parents.




































** Brian's consistently lovely, Alison is weird but does nothing mean or bad, Andy is extremely guilty about the bullying prank he pulled, Claire is actually nice to all of them, if shallow, Bender covers for the rest of them, Vernon is horrible but also pathetic, and the janitor is merely sardonic. The teenagers complain about their families and friends because that was the whole set-up of the movie.

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** Brian's consistently lovely, Alison Allison is weird but does nothing mean or bad, Andy is extremely guilty about the bullying prank he pulled, Claire is actually nice to all of them, if shallow, Bender covers for the rest of them, Vernon is horrible but also pathetic, and the janitor is merely sardonic. The teenagers complain about their families and friends because that was the whole set-up of the movie.















*** Bender - Fire Alarm, Claire - skipped class, Andrew - taped a kid's bare butt up in gym (the kid lost hair and skin, Brian - had a gun in his locker (his dad's) and Allison had nothing better to do (which implies she could have gotten out of it by simply asking why she was in detention).

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*** Bender - Fire Alarm, Claire - skipped class, Andrew - taped a kid's bare butt up in gym (the kid lost hair and skin, Brian - had a gun in his locker (his dad's) and Allison had nothing better to do (which implies she could have gotten out of it by simply asking why she was in detention).detention).
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19th Sep '17 7:28:00 PM ading
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*** Brian getting good grades does ''not'' mean he will be successful in life. This is a man who tried to kill himself over one bad grade. Crippling fear of failure, the refusal to think for himself, and a lack of people skills might be rewarded in the kind of shitty high school in which the film is set, but in the real world they'll do him more harm than good.
19th Sep '17 7:10:54 PM ading
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*** It's not just people who identify with loons and fringes, I dont, and she look hot as hell before as a sexy GothGirl, and several of my fellow students in a class of psychollogy where the movie was played thought the same and they are the stereotypical jocks. Yet, it is possible that for the 80s standards her look was very weird, not so much for today's.

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*** It's not just people who identify with loons and fringes, fringes. I dont, don't, and I think she look looked hot as hell before as a sexy GothGirl, and several of my fellow students in a class of psychollogy psychology where the movie was played thought the same same, and they are the stereotypical jocks. Yet, it It is possible that for the 80s standards her look was very weird, not so much for today's.
19th Sep '17 7:09:29 PM ading
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* There is also Claire's fairly infamous moment where she tells Brian about how they will most likely forget about each-other come Monday morning at School since they all belong to different Social Cliques and would never fit in with each other. Many viewers wanted to hate her for that and accused her of being horribly selfish while certain viewers have considered it a case to be StrawmanHasAPoint and felt that she was right and they would just ignore each-other after that detention. However when you think about it the idea of them "being in cliques that are just too different" is not really true at all. After all Andy is a well known Athelete in School and is a BigManOnCampus in which Claire's rich schoolgirl friends would most likely be cool with Claire hanging out with Andy in fact they probably would be attracted to Andy since not only is he a known jock but also quite the pretty boy as well. And the only real difference between Bender and Allison's cliques is that she is a loner while Bender had friends before he was in that Detention on that day. However at a first glance Allison looked like one of the folks that Bender would hang out with (which might explain Bender's line "I've seen you before you know" that he said to Allison early in the film). Really when you think about it the only person amongst the five in which Claire's statement has any truth with would be Brian. Namely how Brian is way too much of a Nerd to be seen with the "Popular Kids" like Claire and Jocks like Andy, while Brian is a bit too clean and straight-laced to be with "Bad Kids" like Bender and Allison. (Especially considering how Brian knows that his mother would never approve of him hanging out with the latter two.) So in other words for the most part Claire's idea that they all would ignore each-other due to their far too different cliques is not really true when you think about it.
** But it's pretty obvious during the movie that the discussion of "different cliques" is more about Claire and Andy vs Brian vs Bender vs Allison. Claire and Andy aren't ever put separately; they're both popular and from the same social circle (they actually talk at one point, one asking if the other is going to the party of an acquaintance they have in common, and it seems to confirm that they do interact socially sometimes or have friends in common). If anything, they're probably just not from the same classroom or have the same strict group of friends, but they're definitely from the same social sphere. I have to disagree about Allison and Bender, though, they're not that similar (not before the events of the movie anyway) out of first glance. Claire even tries to shame Bender into admitting that he wouldn't take Allison to one of his "vomit parties" (or whatever it's called) with his friends. Allison isn't "one of the bad kids", everyone just sees her as kinda crazy, which is not the same as Bender, who is implied to be a part of a group of delinquents (not of eccentrics, like Alison is). Bender also has a sort of reputation to maintain in his own clique, but it is that of a "bad" kind of reputation, unlike Claire's which is a "good" sort of reputation. Point is: when Claire says they'll all ignore each other on Monday, she's definitely not talking about her and Andy, but about how they'll both ignore Allison and Brian, and how Bender will most likely ignore those two as well; Bender and Allison are not closer to become friends and start talking to each other than any of the others.
* While I and ''quite'' a lot of people were bugged by Ally Sheedy's UnnecessaryMakeover in ''TheBreakfastClub'' for obvious reasons, there is another reason to be bugged by that pink blouse. What on earth is the Molly Ringwald character doing with a spare pink blouse in her backpack, anyway? I know she's The Princess and all, but why would even the girliest of characters carry around spare pink clothing?

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* There is also Claire's fairly infamous moment where she Claire infamously tells Brian about how they will most likely forget about each-other each other come Monday morning at School morning, since they all belong to different Social Cliques social cliques and would never fit in with each other. Many viewers wanted to hate her for that and accused her of being horribly selfish while certain viewers have considered it to be a case to be StrawmanHasAPoint and felt that she was right and they would just ignore each-other after that detention. However of StrawmanHasAPoint. However, when you think about it it, the idea of them "being in cliques that are just too different" is not isn't really true at all. After all all, Andy is a well known Athelete in School athlete and is a BigManOnCampus in which BigManOnCampus, so Claire's rich schoolgirl friends would most likely be cool with Claire hanging out with Andy Andy; in fact fact, they probably would be attracted to Andy Andy, since not only is he a known jock but also quite the pretty boy as well. And the The only real difference between Bender and Allison's cliques is that she is a loner while Bender had friends before he was in that Detention detention on that day. However at a At first glance glance, Allison looked like one of the folks that Bender would hang out with (which might explain Bender's line "I've seen you before before, you know" that he said to Allison early in the film). Really Really, when you think about it it, the only person amongst the five in which Claire's statement has any truth with would be Brian. Namely how Brian is way too much of a Nerd nerd to be seen with the "Popular Kids" like Claire and Jocks like Andy, while Brian is being a bit too clean and straight-laced to be with "Bad Kids" like Bender and Allison. (Especially considering how Brian knows that his mother would never approve of him hanging out with the latter two.) So in In other words words, for the most part part, Claire's idea that they all would ignore each-other each other due to their far too different cliques is not really true when you think about it.
** But it's pretty obvious during the movie that the discussion of "different cliques" is more about Claire and Andy vs Brian vs Bender vs Allison. Claire and Andy aren't ever put separately; they're both popular and from the same social circle (they actually talk at one point, one asking if the other is going to the party of an acquaintance they have in common, and it seems to confirm that they do interact socially sometimes or have friends in common). If anything, they're probably just not from the same classroom or have the same strict group of friends, but they're definitely from the same social sphere. I have to disagree about Allison and Bender, though, they're not that similar (not before the events of the movie anyway) out of first glance. Claire even tries to shame Bender into admitting that he wouldn't take Allison to one of his "vomit parties" (or whatever it's called) with his friends. Allison isn't "one of the bad kids", everyone just sees her as kinda crazy, which is not the same as Bender, who is implied to be a part of a group of delinquents (not delinquents, not of eccentrics, eccentrics like Alison is).Alison. Bender also has a sort of reputation to maintain in his own clique, but it is that of a "bad" kind of reputation, unlike Claire's which is a "good" sort of reputation. Point is: when Claire says they'll all ignore each other on Monday, she's definitely not talking about her and Andy, but about how they'll both ignore Allison and Brian, and how Bender will most likely ignore those two as well; Bender and Allison are not closer to become becoming friends and start talking starting to talk to each other than any of the others.
* While I and ''quite'' a lot of people were bugged by Ally Sheedy's UnnecessaryMakeover in ''TheBreakfastClub'' for obvious reasons, there is another reason to be bugged by that pink blouse. What on earth is the Molly Ringwald character doing with a spare pink blouse in her backpack, anyway? I know she's The Princess and all, but why would even the girliest of characters carry around spare pink clothing?
17th Aug '17 8:10:07 PM HeadSpace
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*** What do you mean "the poor girl wasn't happy?" If she wasn't happy, then why would she have gone through with the makeover? And why would she smile afterwards?
5th May '17 3:27:16 PM Everlighte
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*** Bender - Fire Alarm, Claire - skipped class, Andrew - taped a kid's bare butt up in gym (the kid lost hair and skin, Brian - had a gun in his locker (his dad's) and Allison had nothing better to do (which implies she could have gotten out of it by simply asking why she was in detention)

* Why do people think that The Breakfast Club either became friends openly on Monday or never spoke to each other again? Why not both? There's a theory on the WMG page that they avoid each other during school but hang out outside of school. I'm actually writing a fanfic where they meet after school on Saturdays to go over their week and their issues. Why don't more fans consider this possibly happening?

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*** Bender - Fire Alarm, Claire - skipped class, Andrew - taped a kid's bare butt up in gym (the kid lost hair and skin, Brian - had a gun in his locker (his dad's) and Allison had nothing better to do (which implies she could have gotten out of it by simply asking why she was in detention)

* Why do people think that The Breakfast Club either became friends openly on Monday or never spoke to each other again? Why not both? There's a theory on the WMG page that they avoid each other during school but hang out outside of school. I'm actually writing a fanfic where they meet after school on Saturdays to go over their week and their issues. Why don't more fans consider this possibly happening?
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5th May '17 3:26:17 PM Everlighte
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* Why do people think that The Breakfast Club either became friends openly on Monday or never spoke to each other again? Why not both? There's a theory on the WMG page that they avoid each other during school but hang out outside of school. I'm actually writing a fanfic where they meet after school on Saturdays to go over their week and their issues. Why don't more fans consider this possibly happening?

* Bender and Claire's relationship. BelligerentSexualTension? DesignatedLoveInterest or RomanticizedAbuse? If you choose the first one, then may God have mercy on your soul.

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* Why do people think that The Breakfast Club either became friends openly on Monday or never spoke to each other again? Why not both? There's a theory on the WMG page that they avoid each other during school but hang out outside of school. I'm actually writing a fanfic where they meet after school on Saturdays to go over their week and their issues. Why don't more fans consider this possibly happening?

* Bender and Claire's relationship. BelligerentSexualTension? DesignatedLoveInterest or RomanticizedAbuse? If you choose the first one, then may God have mercy on your soul.
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21st Jan '17 12:24:24 PM ReaderAt2046
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***Your parentheses suggest Sixteen Candles either never existed or they somehow filmed all of their many scenes together separately.
15th Dec '16 4:22:15 AM Everlighte
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