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** If it is a dream I would just chalk it up to dreams being weird and inconsistent, that the rat wasn't actually there but was for a brief moment. If it wasn't a dream and it was all real I think it's valid to assume they fell in without Mikey noticing, he's not the brightest after all.
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** It's likely the writers hadn't decided Irma was a Kraang spy until they got to the second season.

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* What is it about mutagen that seems to automatically bestow human level skill? Take Season 3's ''The Croaking''. Those frogs were mutated in the episode ''Buried Secrets''. They've been human level intelligence for somewhere between a few days and a few month at the absolute most which the likely answer being less than a month. Yet they've got names a fairly functioning society complete with a dislike for humans that required what at that point would have been unmutated frogs to understand the situation they were in, they speak English. They are if not completely on par with the formally trained ninja they are still dozens of times better than beings who should still be mastering bipedal movement. This isn't the first time this has happened either. Slash instantly masters these things as well to the point of sneaking up on trained ninjas despite being a hulking brute.It doesn't happen every time though, ice cream kitty and the squirelnoids don't seem to get it.

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* What is it about mutagen that seems to automatically bestow human level skill? Take Season 3's ''The Croaking''. Those frogs were mutated in the episode ''Buried Secrets''. They've been human level intelligence for somewhere between a few days and a few month at the absolute most which the likely answer being less than a month. Yet they've got names a fairly functioning society complete with a dislike for humans that required what at that point would have been unmutated frogs to understand the situation they were in, they speak English. They are if not completely on par with the formally trained ninja they are still dozens of times better than beings who should still be mastering bipedal movement. This isn't the first time this has happened either. Slash instantly masters these things as well to the point of sneaking up on trained ninjas despite being a hulking brute. It doesn't happen every time though, ice cream kitty and the squirelnoids don't seem to get it.



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* In "The Gauntlet" how did nobody notice Pete? He's a giant Pigeon Man in broad daylight! He crashed into a bank window with people inside for [[IncrediblyLamePun Pete's]] sake!

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* In "The Gauntlet" how did nobody notice Pete? He's a giant Pigeon Man in broad daylight! He crashed into a bank window with people inside for [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} Pete's]] sake!



*** Pete's a bit of a [[IncrediblyLamePun Bird brain]]?

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*** Pete's a bit of a [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} Bird brain]]?



** 1.) It hasn't been confirmed yet that the Kraang have been defeated. If anything the Earth Protective Forces was an unexpected entry into the playing field, and possibly deterred the Kraang's spread. However, it's still likely they're causing chaos in NY and maybe even the surrounding states. 2.) While you would expect the invasion to be on the TV you have to remember it's been going on for three months, and that it has seemed to be contained mostly to NY. It's understandable that by then they would be reporting things happening in their own community. It should also be noted that they're probably reporting about updates on what's going in NY, but for the plot of "Race with The Demon" it wasn't mentioned. We'll likely see it in a later episode. 3.) Leo isn't fully healed. While capable of still preforming physical feats he's shown multiple times that his injuries are still affecting him. 4.) They don't know that Splinter is alive. The last time they saw him he got thrown into a whirlpool of sewage. Mikey's words were just to calm Raph down from his UnstoppableRage. And again, he was thrown into a whirlpool of sewage, looking for him would be hopeless. Should they in 1/1,000 chance find him his body would most likely be unrecognizable. By all means the fact that they're still at the farm is understandable given the circumstances.

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** 1.) It hasn't been confirmed yet that the Kraang have been defeated. If anything anything, the Earth Protective Forces was an unexpected entry into the playing field, and possibly deterred the Kraang's spread. However, it's still likely they're causing chaos in NY and maybe even the surrounding states. 2.) While you would expect the invasion to be on the TV you have to remember it's been going on for three months, and that it has seemed to be contained mostly to NY. It's understandable that by then they would be reporting things happening in their own community. It should also be noted that they're probably reporting about updates on what's going in NY, but for the plot of "Race with The Demon" it wasn't mentioned. We'll likely see it in a later episode. 3.) Leo isn't fully healed. While capable of still preforming physical feats he's shown multiple times that his injuries are still affecting him. 4.) They don't know that Splinter is alive. The last time they saw him he got thrown into a whirlpool of sewage. Mikey's words were just to calm Raph down from his UnstoppableRage. And again, he was thrown into a whirlpool of sewage, looking for him would be hopeless. Should they in 1/1,000 chance find him his body would most likely be unrecognizable. By all means the fact that they're still at the farm is understandable given the circumstances.



* So is Timothy dead? We didn't see him when they went back to the lair.

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* So So, is Timothy dead? We didn't see him when they went back to the lair.



* What happened to Steranko's clothes when he mutated? I'd accept that the tanktop was on under his shirt, but where did the belts on top of it come from? Also, his pants completely changed and his coat, shirt, tie and shoes vanished. His coat couldn't have come off in the tank since its epaulettes are fused to his shoulders.

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* What happened to Steranko's clothes when he mutated? I'd accept that the tanktop was on under his shirt, but where did the belts on top of it come from? Also, his pants completely changed changed, and his coat, shirt, tie and shoes vanished. His coat couldn't have come off in the tank since its epaulettes are fused to his shoulders.
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* If Donatello really wanted to upgrade his staff, he could go with the simplest option: a METAL staff, which at the very least wouldn't get broken all the time, and would be very effective against armored opponents like the Kraang.
** A metal staff would be significantly heavier and would also be balanced differently (Donnie's staff is not one consistent thickness, thinner in the middle and wider at the ends).
*** But in the pilot Donnie states he's familiar with metallurgy and so he could most likely be able to make a staff balanced like his wooden one.
*** Aluminum in a proper shape would be stronger, and not much heavier than wood.
** The strangest thing about that episode was that it ignored the fact that Donnie's staff already had a hidden blade in it.
*** Yeah, but the staff itself is still wooden and can be broken, which would just leave Donnie with what you'd roughly call a dagger in combat if that were to happen.
*** [[DoubleWeapon Or upgrade it with blades at both ends!]]
** This is a bit HilariousInHindsight now that ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheTeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' came out and featured a version of Donnie that ''does'' have a metallic Bo staff (and with highly advanced technology!)
** Arguably FridgeBrilliance in that Donnie actually does end up sticking with a bo staff/naginata throughout the series, and stops breaking them so often. The problem wasn't that it was a "stick" - as Splinter hinted early on, it was that Donnie didn't know how to use it effectively yet. Even in the Pilot, he demonstrates technical skill with his bo staff, but how often in Season 1 fights did he just literally whack enemies with it like a baseball bat? Of course it broke! As time goes by and Donnie becomes more skilled and competent in combat, he stops breaking them so often because he's learned how to use a bo staff ''effectively''.
* In "Cockroach Terminator", it's revealed that Raphael has a major fear of cockroaches, and from the reactions of his brothers they just now found out about it. The thing is, they live in the sewers, a veritable cockroach heaven. So how did they not know about Raph's fear for the last 15 years, and how did Raph not have a mental breakdown from being surrounded by cockroaches?
** It might be very well how he developed that fear. Plus he reacted in a way some poeple would react to a small size roach. It's only when it was man-size did his fear grip him tightly.
* So, a mutant wasp accidentally gets its stinger caught in a wall and the floor, but the stinger gets yanked out when he stings a turtle?
** Well, it is a ''parasitic'' wasp, that seems to have evolved to infect others with the virus that caused all the trouble. Maybe it released its stinger on purpose in order to infect him?
* In "The Invasion, Part 1", Irma drops her glasses and is unable to see the Turtles until she puts them back on. Then it's revealed she was really a robot being piloted by a Kraang. Why would a robot need glasses?
** ...Maybe they made her really, ''really'' lifelike?
** This one's easy. To seem as human as possible thus staying undercover easier.
** It's actually quite simple. Kraang Sub-Prime had been having trouble with pretending to need glasses, so they designed the viewport to 'blur' unless he was using the glasses. The 'eyes' of Irma are connected to an HUD in the stomach. In an emergency, he can drop the HUD and just squint.
** Kind of pointless by then since her head was revealed to be on a metal stick and detached from her body and the head rotated 360 degrees.]
* In "Panic in the Sewers", Leo realizes they're in over their heads while fighting Dogpound and orders Mikey to use a smoke bomb. Mikey fumbles and drops the smoke bomb. Raph calls him out for it [[{{Hypocrite}} and drops another smoke bomb down a storm drain/sewer grate]], Leo then takes out a third smoke bomb and uses it successfully. If Leo had his own smoke bomb, why didn't he just use it in the first place instead of waiting for Mikey and Raph?
** Mikey had the most experience with them and so Leo thought he wouldn't need to use his own but then Mikey wasted it by accident. And then Raph got pissed and used his. That was when Leo got fed up and decided to use his own egg.
* In "The Arena of Carnage" the turtles get one part of the black hole generator. Than they state their goal to find the next part. Why? If they just destroy the part they have (throwing it into a star or something like that) the whole thing would be useless for the Triceratons anyway.
** It's possible that the Ticeratons are advanced enough that they can create the other parts as long as they have some sort of blueprint in the form of one of the parts. Either that, or it's to delay them as long as possible.
*** Indeed, in "Trans Dimensional Turtles", Donatello says just that.
* In "Trans Dimensional Turtles", how can [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 Kraang]] and Kraang Sub-Prime be cousins when they come from two different Dimension Xs?
** Since it was a cross over, let's just chalk it up as non-canon.
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* I found [[http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Tumblr_mg1dnfXDpU1rkw2szo1_500.jpg this]] on [[TheWikiRule TurtlePedia]]. Is that canon!?

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* I found [[http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Tumblr_mg1dnfXDpU1rkw2szo1_500.jpg this]] on [[TheWikiRule TurtlePedia]].TurtlePedia. Is that canon!?
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** Shredder's army had vacated the place. Shredder had just gotten his ass handed to him by Splinter and was in no condition to fight. They couldn't risk keeping him in the lair because the Turtles knew where it is and can get in and out with nearly minimal effort. They found themselves a new place to hide, and Karai basically walked in and took it for herself, Shinigami, and her army of ninja mercenaries.
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** This is answered in the Season 3 Episode "Tales of the Yokai." Right after Oroku Saki kills Tang Shen inadvertently, a piece of flaming wood falls from the ceiling and strikes his face.
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** Here's the whole list:
*** Rahzar: Drowned by Leatherhead. Revived in Season 5.
*** Fishface: Briefly resurfaces to help Rahzar get revived, but abandons the Foot afterwards.
*** Baxter: De-mutated during the Events of ''Owari''. He is never seen again.
*** Tiger Claw: Started a cult dedicated to bringing the Shredder back from the dead.
*** Bebop & Rocksteady: Quit the Foot Clan after Shredder's resurrection.
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** This is given a definitive answer in "Tale of Tiger Claw." He and his sister wandered into a Kraang portal that appeared, then got kidnapped by the Kraang and mutated into Tiger Claw and Alopex, respectively.

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** The season one finale reveals that [[spoiler:Karai is actually's Splinter's daughter Miwa, kidnapped and raised by Shredder after the fight/fire that killed Tang Shen]].

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** The season one finale reveals that [[spoiler:Karai Karai is actually's Splinter's daughter Miwa, kidnapped and raised by Shredder after the fight/fire that killed Tang Shen]].Shen.



* Why is the show kind of inconsistent with how serious the events are sometimes? For example, the end of ''The Kraang Conspiracy'', [[spoiler: April discovers she's a human/kraang mutant hybrid and she's disoriented by the news]], and the next episode, April acts as though it never happened.

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* Why is the show kind of inconsistent with how serious the events are sometimes? For example, the end of ''The Kraang Conspiracy'', [[spoiler: April discovers she's a human/kraang mutant hybrid and she's disoriented by the news]], news, and the next episode, April acts as though it never happened.



* How does one tell the dfference between a female Kraang/Utrom and a male one, Kraang Prime is a '''[[{{Pun}} prime]]''' example of this, before season 4 when the Utrom Queen called Kraang Prime a "him" the fandom assumed he was female based of his voice (Everybody else before then just referred to Kraang Prime as "it" & "Kraang Prime"). Seriously, anyone can tell any species males from their females if they know what to look for. For all we know the Kraang/Utroms could just be a hermaphroditical race using gender pronouns for the convenience of Earthlings.[[spoiler:.. Wait, what does that mean for April?]]

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* How does one tell the dfference between a female Kraang/Utrom and a male one, Kraang Prime is a '''[[{{Pun}} prime]]''' example of this, before season 4 when the Utrom Queen called Kraang Prime a "him" the fandom assumed he was female based of his voice (Everybody else before then just referred to Kraang Prime as "it" & "Kraang Prime"). Seriously, anyone can tell any species males from their females if they know what to look for. For all we know the Kraang/Utroms could just be a hermaphroditical race using gender pronouns for the convenience of Earthlings.[[spoiler:.. Earthlings... Wait, what does that mean for April?]]April?



* In Cockroach Terminator, After [[spoiler: the Roach is liquified]], there is a an [[spoiler: egg With a mutant embryo in it]]. This would imply that, Don, in all his intellegence, either A) [[spoiler: failed to notice the cockroach he was using was pregnant, which seems to be a massive oversight]], or B) [[spoiler: knew that the roach was pregnant and he just didn't care, which seems very much out of line with his characterization]]. Either way, what the hell, Donny?
** It's possible that [[spoiler: the egg was a result of the mutagen and that the cockroach was not pregnant at all beforehand]]. Many real-life mutagens are also carcinogens (they cause cancer), so perhaps [[spoiler:the egg was just some sort of bizarre, living tumor?]]

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* In Cockroach Terminator, After [[spoiler: the Roach is liquified]], liquefied, there is a an [[spoiler: egg With a mutant embryo in it]]. it. This would imply that, Don, in all his intellegence, either A) [[spoiler: failed to notice the cockroach he was using was pregnant, which seems to be a massive oversight]], oversight, or B) [[spoiler: knew that the roach was pregnant and he just didn't care, which seems very much out of line with his characterization]].characterization. Either way, what the hell, Donny?
** It's possible that [[spoiler: the egg was a result of the mutagen and that the cockroach was not pregnant at all beforehand]]. beforehand. Many real-life mutagens are also carcinogens (they cause cancer), so perhaps [[spoiler:the the egg was just some sort of bizarre, living tumor?]]tumor?



** As of the Season 2 Finale the Kraang and the Foot are working together. It's possible that their alliance was renewed after [[spoiler: Karai was mutated and Shredder needed their expertise.]]
* Why did Tigerclaw retreat after [[spoiler: he defeated Karai]]? You'd think he'd continue his attack on the turtles what with mikey down and his revenge close at hand, so why did he leave?
** His priority changed when [[spoiler: Karai turned on him]]. He felt it was more important to bring the traitor back to his master than continue a battle he may not win at that point.

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** As of the Season 2 Finale the Kraang and the Foot are working together. It's possible that their alliance was renewed after [[spoiler: Karai was mutated and Shredder needed their expertise.]]
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* Why did Tigerclaw retreat after [[spoiler: he defeated Karai]]? Karai? You'd think he'd continue his attack on the turtles what with mikey down and his revenge close at hand, so why did he leave?
** His priority changed when [[spoiler: Karai turned on him]].him. He felt it was more important to bring the traitor back to his master than continue a battle he may not win at that point.



* So what exactly [[spoiler: about Splinter showing Karai the pictures of her mother and her as a baby make her finally convinced? Had she seen a picture of her mother before? If so, that would make sense but I don't think that was established, unless I'm forgetting something. Otherwise it's just a picture of a random Japanese family as far as she would be concerned, given that despite overhearing the Turtles talk amongst themselves about her parentage, she still thought they were lying? And if she was having doubts about whether or not it was true, why so trigger happy with the tracking device? Why not wait to see what Splinter had to say before activating it?]]

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* So what exactly [[spoiler: about Splinter showing Karai the pictures of her mother and her as a baby make her finally convinced? Had she seen a picture of her mother before? If so, that would make sense but I don't think that was established, unless I'm forgetting something. Otherwise it's just a picture of a random Japanese family as far as she would be concerned, given that despite overhearing the Turtles talk amongst themselves about her parentage, she still thought they were lying? And if she was having doubts about whether or not it was true, why so trigger happy with the tracking device? Why not wait to see what Splinter had to say before activating it?]]it?



* If Irma was really [[spoiler: a Kraang droid]] how did she eat pizza?
** The same way [[spoiler: Ch'rell]] drank tea in the 2003 version. In all seriousness, [[spoiler: it's possible that Kraang Sub Prime makes "Irma" eat, but any food he puts in "her" mouth is redirected to a separate storage compartment or something]].
*** Or [[spoiler: his own mouth]].
* How were the Kraang disguised as [[spoiler: Irma, Kraang Sub-Prime, and the cops]] able to speak English fluently?

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* If Irma was really [[spoiler: a Kraang droid]] droid, how did she eat pizza?
** The same way [[spoiler: Ch'rell]] Ch'rell drank tea in the 2003 version. In all seriousness, [[spoiler: it's possible that Kraang Sub Prime makes "Irma" eat, but any food he puts in "her" mouth is redirected to a separate storage compartment or something]].
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* How were the Kraang disguised as [[spoiler: Irma, Kraang Sub-Prime, and the cops]] cops able to speak English fluently?



** Either [[spoiler: Kraang Sub-Prime and Kraang Prime]] are actually different in ways other than their size or more likely the average Kraang simply doesn't care. They rarely communicate with humans and if you've ever spoken with someone in their second language they often have, obviously not as comical, but very specific word choices. Either way it pisses [[spoiler: Kraang Sub-Prime off]] that after thousands of years they apparently just aren't putting in the effort.
* So we're supposed to believe that the Kraang somehow [[spoiler: got Irma/Kraang Subprime enrolled in a high school when "she" has no history prior to that?]]
** [[spoiler: The Kraang have been on Earth for hundreds of years. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few of them on the school board.]]
* Why make [[spoiler: the Irma droid short-sighted and in need of glasses?]]

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** Either [[spoiler: Kraang Sub-Prime and Kraang Prime]] Prime are actually different in ways other than their size or more likely the average Kraang simply doesn't care. They rarely communicate with humans and if you've ever spoken with someone in their second language they often have, obviously not as comical, but very specific word choices. Either way it pisses [[spoiler: Kraang Sub-Prime off]] off that after thousands of years they apparently just aren't putting in the effort.
* So we're supposed to believe that the Kraang somehow [[spoiler: got Irma/Kraang Subprime enrolled in a high school when "she" has no history prior to that?]]
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** [[spoiler: The Kraang have been on Earth for hundreds of years. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few of them on the school board.]]
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* How could April not sense that [[spoiler: Irma was really a

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* In "The Invasion" it's revealed that [[spoiler: Irma was really Kraang Subprime.]] But in "Mousers Attack" [[spoiler: April was already friends with Irma and at that point the Kraang still didn't know where she was.]]
** That just adds to the [[spoiler: "there was a real Irma and she was kidnapped"]] theory.
* Why do the Kraang even need to invade? Kraang Prime reveals that [[spoiler: they created the human race]] and Kurtzman's files showed that they've been living among us ever since. They've basically had the Earth in their pocket the whole time.
* So it took SufficientlyAdvancedAliens like the Kraang the entire existence of the human race to do things like [[spoiler: create the HalfHumanHybrid April]] or finally perfect the mutagen?

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* In "The Invasion" it's revealed that [[spoiler: Irma was really Kraang Subprime.]] Subprime. But in "Mousers Attack" [[spoiler: April was already friends with Irma and at that point the Kraang still didn't know where she was.]]
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** That just adds to the [[spoiler: "there was a real Irma and she was kidnapped"]] kidnapped" theory.
* Why do the Kraang even need to invade? Kraang Prime reveals that [[spoiler: they created the human race]] race and Kurtzman's files showed that they've been living among us ever since. They've basically had the Earth in their pocket the whole time.
* So it took SufficientlyAdvancedAliens like the Kraang the entire existence of the human race to do things like [[spoiler: create the HalfHumanHybrid April]] April or finally perfect the mutagen?



* Maybe I've missed something, but I don't really understand why Karai [[spoiler:can seemingly switch between her mutant and her human form. Is that some kind of snake thing or what?]]
** [[spoiler: Baxter accidentally spills something into the container that he later poured into the mutagen.]]

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* Maybe I've missed something, but I don't really understand why Karai [[spoiler:can can seemingly switch between her mutant and her human form. Is that some kind of snake thing or what?]]
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** [[spoiler: Baxter accidentally spills something into the container that he later poured into the mutagen.]]



* Okay, after the newest episode 'Buried Secrets' I'm like totally confused about April's whole past. Could someone give me a cronological list of what happened to her family? Can we even trust what [[spoiler: the Mom-thing]] said? I mean, she seemingly had all the memories of the real [[spoiler: Mrs O'Neil.]] Did the Kraang ship really land there and they unkowingly build their farm house there? And why would the Kraang be in some kind of sleeping state anyway? How did April's greatgrandfather not notice an alien spaceship in his basement? Heck, why would whoever build the farm house not notice that?! Why would the O'Neils come back to this place when they were experimented on there? Why would the Kraang allow them to leave? And then what about the things Mr. Kurtzman said? This whole scenario makes like no sense at all...

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* Okay, after the newest episode 'Buried Secrets' I'm like totally confused about April's whole past. Could someone give me a cronological list of what happened to her family? Can we even trust what [[spoiler: the Mom-thing]] Mom-thing said? I mean, she seemingly had all the memories of the real [[spoiler: Mrs O'Neil.]] O'Neil. Did the Kraang ship really land there and they unkowingly build their farm house there? And why would the Kraang be in some kind of sleeping state anyway? How did April's greatgrandfather not notice an alien spaceship in his basement? Heck, why would whoever build the farm house not notice that?! Why would the O'Neils come back to this place when they were experimented on there? Why would the Kraang allow them to leave? And then what about the things Mr. Kurtzman said? This whole scenario makes like no sense at all...



* What happened to Steranko's clothes [[spoiler: when he mutated? I'd accept that the tanktop was on under his shirt, but where did the belts on top of it come from? Also, his pants completely changed and his coat, shirt, tie and shoes vanished. His coat couldn't have come off in the tank since its epaulettes are fused to his shoulders.]]
** Probably the same reason why people who are tied up are free of their restraints once dunked in mutagen. It's possible that [[spoiler: the belts and pants were hidden under the rest of his clothes, which probably disintegrated in the mutagen like ropes and chains do. The epaulettes likely fused to him as the coat disintegrated the same way that Karai's armor fuses with her when in snake mode.]]
* If time moves faster in Dimension X, [[spoiler: and most of the human kraang hybrids have been in there for at least of couple of Earth months, shouldn't they look significantly older?]]

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* What happened to Steranko's clothes [[spoiler: when he mutated? I'd accept that the tanktop was on under his shirt, but where did the belts on top of it come from? Also, his pants completely changed and his coat, shirt, tie and shoes vanished. His coat couldn't have come off in the tank since its epaulettes are fused to his shoulders.]]
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** Probably the same reason why people who are tied up are free of their restraints once dunked in mutagen. It's possible that [[spoiler: the belts and pants were hidden under the rest of his clothes, which probably disintegrated in the mutagen like ropes and chains do. The epaulettes likely fused to him as the coat disintegrated the same way that Karai's armor fuses with her when in snake mode.]]
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* If time moves faster in Dimension X, [[spoiler: and most of the human kraang hybrids have been in there for at least of couple of Earth months, shouldn't they look significantly older?]]older?



* How the heck did Karai [[spoiler: expect Leo and/or the others to know what she meant when she pointed to the distance and said "Comet"?]] She was obviously under pressure, but that's a ridiculously vague clue to give.

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* How the heck did Karai [[spoiler: expect Leo and/or the others to know what she meant when she pointed to the distance and said "Comet"?]] "Comet"? She was obviously under pressure, but that's a ridiculously vague clue to give.



* So, how do those mind-control worm things work? They seem to enter through the head (Stockman said the chemical had to go straight to the brain), but when [[spoiler: Raph, Slash and Rockwell]] are cured, they puke the worms up.

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* So, how do those mind-control worm things work? They seem to enter through the head (Stockman said the chemical had to go straight to the brain), but when [[spoiler: Raph, Slash and Rockwell]] Rockwell are cured, they puke the worms up.



** Yes, [[spoiler:it knocked Shredder away from Splinter and happened because of how devestated seeing Splinter die made April. So it was pretty much the equivalent of forcing Shredder back.]]

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** Yes, [[spoiler:it it knocked Shredder away from Splinter and happened because of how devestated seeing Splinter die made April. So it was pretty much the equivalent of forcing Shredder back.]]



* In ''Attack of the Mega Shredder'', [[spoiler: Karai is shown having at least a second brain worm injected]]. But in ''The Fourfold Trap'', [[spoiler: she's only shown coughing up one worm (courtesy of Splinter's healing hands]].
** Maybe the machine injecting the [[spoiler: second (or more) worm(s)]] removed the old ones too, so there was [[spoiler: only one in her head]] at a time?

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* In ''Attack of the Mega Shredder'', [[spoiler: Karai is shown having at least a second brain worm injected]]. injected. But in ''The Fourfold Trap'', [[spoiler: she's only shown coughing up one worm (courtesy of Splinter's healing hands]].
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** Maybe the machine injecting the [[spoiler: second (or more) worm(s)]] worm(s) removed the old ones too, so there was [[spoiler: only one in her head]] head at a time?



* So, as of Beyond the Known Universe, [[spoiler: the Earth has gone back in time six months]]... But where does that leave everyone else? How much of [[spoiler: season 3]] has been undone? Are there now no ninja turtles on Earth?

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* So, as of Beyond the Known Universe, [[spoiler: the Earth has gone back in time six months]]... months... But where does that leave everyone else? How much of [[spoiler: season 3]] 3 has been undone? Are there now no ninja turtles on Earth?



** As it turns out, it wasn't the Kraang who built the BHG, but rather [[spoiler: Professor Honeycutt]] and it was designed to only be destroyed by a combination of dark matter and fusion.

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** As it turns out, it wasn't the Kraang who built the BHG, but rather [[spoiler: Professor Honeycutt]] Honeycutt and it was designed to only be destroyed by a combination of dark matter and fusion.



* So, who's left of the Foot Clan post-Owari besides Tiger Claw and Baxter? [[spoiler: Raph clearly left Xever to die, and Bebop and Rocksteady stopped screaming whilst the training guns were still firing.]] Also,[[spoiler: Rahzar]] didn't resurface after Leatherhead dragged him underwater.

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* So, who's left of the Foot Clan post-Owari besides Tiger Claw and Baxter? [[spoiler: Raph clearly left Xever to die, and Bebop and Rocksteady stopped screaming whilst the training guns were still firing.]] Also,[[spoiler: Rahzar]] firing. Also, Rahzar didn't resurface after Leatherhead dragged him underwater.
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* Why does Timothy/Pulverizer's parents (if he has an parental guardian) as about his whereabouts? When Timothy first saw the turtles he was in his house, and it's safe to assume he's not adult, meaning that he would at at be living with some sort of legal guardian. How come when he got mutated and just "disappeared" to the sweet that no one who looking for him? At this point he has been missing for several months, so a family member should be trying to locate him.

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* Why does Timothy/Pulverizer's parents (if he has an any parental guardian) as ask about his whereabouts? When Timothy first saw the turtles turtles, he was in his house, and it's safe to assume he's not adult, meaning that he would at at be living with some sort of legal guardian. How come when he got mutated and just "disappeared" to the sweet sewers that no one who looking for him? At this point he has been missing for several months, so a family member should be trying to locate him.
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** The one-on-one defeats seemed to demonstrate to them that Shredder was so powerful that even all together, they probably wouldn't beat him. They actually seem to have a decent gauge on what they can do, and what's too much for them, even in this episode where it's a plot point that they were getting cocky and arrogant in their abilities. So when he took them down so easily individually, they sort of went, "Yeah, we're not winning this" and booked it.
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*** This is more random trivia than an "answer", but nunchucks are apparently extremely complex to use - which makes sense, given, you know, the weighted chunks flying all over the place (even ''without'' learning how to throw them, use them to "catch" weapons or limbs, etc...). It's actually an element of HiddenDepths for Mikey in every TMNT iteration - he's the {{Cloudcuckoolander}} and the laziest and most unfocused turtle, but he's the one who uses the most difficult and complicated weapons - ''two'' of them. Part of his whole BrilliantButLazy deal.

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*** This is more random trivia than an "answer", but nunchucks are apparently extremely complex to use - which makes sense, given, you know, the weighted chunks flying all over the place (even ''without'' learning how to throw them, use them to "catch" weapons or limbs, etc...). It's actually an element of HiddenDepths for Mikey in every TMNT iteration - he's the {{Cloudcuckoolander}} and the laziest and most unfocused turtle, but he's the one who uses the most [[BrilliantButLazy difficult and complicated weapons weapons]] - ''two'' of them. Part of But ''with'' all that, I'd at least say it makes sense that Raph can't use Mikey's nunchucks without whacking himself in the head. Even the aforementioned 2003 episode where they swap weapons, Mikey actually keeps his whole BrilliantButLazy deal. chucks (he uses metal pipes in lieu of them) - because learning how to competently use nunchucks is apparently ''ridiculously'' hard, and it probably would have come off as unrealistic even by TMNT standards for all four to be able to just pick them up and use them. Leo ''maybe''. But not Raph or Donnie.

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** The weapons thing might be a MythologyGag, or at least a reference, as the 2003 series (itself based closely on the original Mirage comics) had an episode where the Turtles had to swap weapons to defeat a robot that could mimic their individual fighting styles. In that episode, everyone adapts to the new weapons fairly easily (Donnie fumbles a bit with Raph's sais, but is still able to use them). But those Turtles were in general [[AdaptationalBadass far more skilled]] than in [[AdaptationalWimps this iteration]]. As the 2012 Turtles are generally portrayed as less mature than in previous iterations and still mastering ninjutsu in the first season, it makes sense that they struggle more with swapping out weapons.

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*** This is more random trivia than an "answer", but nunchucks are apparently extremely complex to use - which makes sense, given, you know, the weighted chunks flying all over the place (even ''without'' learning how to throw them, use them to "catch" weapons or limbs, etc...). It's actually an element of HiddenDepths for Mikey in every TMNT iteration - he's the {{Cloudcuckoolander}} and the laziest and most unfocused turtle, but he's the one who uses the most difficult and complicated weapons - ''two'' of them. Part of his whole BrilliantButLazy deal.
** The weapons thing might be a MythologyGag, or at least a reference, as the 2003 series (itself based closely on the original Mirage comics) had an episode where the Turtles had to swap weapons to defeat a robot that could mimic their individual fighting styles. In that episode, everyone adapts to the new weapons fairly easily (Donnie fumbles a bit with Raph's sais, but is still able to use them). But those Turtles were in general [[AdaptationalBadass far more skilled]] than in [[AdaptationalWimps [[AdaptationalWimp this iteration]]. As the 2012 Turtles are generally portrayed as less mature than in previous iterations and still mastering ninjutsu in the first season, it makes sense that they struggle more with swapping out weapons.
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** One Doylist reason is that Splinter is shown to have insane ninja skills of his own - he's the only one who can match Shredder in a fight. Bringing him along would basically make him a GodModeSue who could easily flatten most of the Turtles' regular opponents.


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** I assumed it was a NotSoAboveItAll thing, and they actually do like Mikey's nicknames, even if they complain about them.


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** Moreover, the Pilot shows them ''begging'' to go topside, and it sounded like it wasn't the first time they'd asked, either. They'd probably been anxious to do so for awhile, so aren't happy with having the privilege taken away now.


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** The weapons thing might be a MythologyGag, or at least a reference, as the 2003 series (itself based closely on the original Mirage comics) had an episode where the Turtles had to swap weapons to defeat a robot that could mimic their individual fighting styles. In that episode, everyone adapts to the new weapons fairly easily (Donnie fumbles a bit with Raph's sais, but is still able to use them). But those Turtles were in general [[AdaptationalBadass far more skilled]] than in [[AdaptationalWimps this iteration]]. As the 2012 Turtles are generally portrayed as less mature than in previous iterations and still mastering ninjutsu in the first season, it makes sense that they struggle more with swapping out weapons.
*** Moreover, while the 2012 Turtles indeed trained in ninjutsu for 15 years, Splinter seemed to miss some major gaps in that training. As of the Pilot, they had no clue how to fight as a team or coordinate themselves to not run into each other or get in each other's way - apparently in 15 years Splinter had never thought of that (even more surprising in that while the dojo is large, they seem to do things like hold simultaneous sparring matches that you'd think would give them ''some'' skill at staying out of each other's way, but anyway...). While he apparently did do ''some'' weapons cross-training with them, such as teaching them all bow and arrow and how to use shurikens, he might have just never considered training them on ''each other's'' weapons before that episode.


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** April gets a lot of flack for giving Donnie "mixed messages" in that episode (and in general), but she's a teenage girl herself who had just been through a huge TraumaCongaLine. She was probably confused about her own feelings, not intentionally trying to hurt Donnie or lead him on.


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** He also puts on his LARP gear in another episode when he's trying to act on his own (Mikey ends up tagging along though). It seems to be a thing for Leo to wear a different "uniform" if he's doing missions without his brothers, to signify that he's not acting as part of the "team" at those times (Raph does this at least once too, in the episode where he tries to train a Triceraton). Since Karai and Shinigami are goth girls who wear a lot of black, I suppose he went for a lot of black and metal to match them.


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** Splinter did mention once that both Mikey and Leo had higher intuitive/spiritual ability than Raph or Donnie (this was why Splinter taught Leo the healing hands mantra). So it might be that Mikey specifically could get the seal working, even if the others couldn't.
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**Also what about Donnie's promise to turn Timothy back? In season one, he was given responsibility for what happens to him and he got mutated into a pile of blob. Then in season two, he was frozen solid into ice, so how come Donnie didn't try to create or find a substance that can reverse his mutation. It's made even worse by the fact that after season two, the turtles, especially Donnie seem to have forgotten about him and aren't even concerned about the fact that a random kid might be deemed missing by his loved ones and that they might be looking for him.
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*Why does Timothy/Pulverizer's parents (if he has an parental guardian) as about his whereabouts? When Timothy first saw the turtles he was in his house, and it's safe to assume he's not adult, meaning that he would at at be living with some sort of legal guardian. How come when he got mutated and just "disappeared" to the sweet that no one who looking for him? At this point he has been missing for several months, so a family member should be trying to locate him.
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* In "[[Recap/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012S1E17TCRI TCRI]]", it is established that Dimension X's natural atmosphere is toxic to people in Earth's dimension, a fact that remains consistent in the series. In "[[Recap/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012S2E24IntoDimensionX Into Dimension X]]", Donnie fashions a makeshift breathing apparatus that lets them breath. The person beyond a Kraang or Utrom capable of breathing Kraang-atmopshere is Leatherhead. In-fact, he was in Dimension X for ''decades''. What makes him so special?


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**** He is also much more turtle than human, so it's very possible that one of the TMNT affected his mutation, and as they're only partially human the human DNA might have had an even lesser affect on Slash.



* How could April not sense that [[spoiler: Irma was really a Kraang?]]

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** It should also be noted that the timelines don't line up either. The Kraathatrogon worm appears in the final scene which is straight from "The Manhattan Project" with an added scene of Tiger Claw cutting himself out. So we can presume the past Turtles are on that mission. However, this was the Season 2 finale, which is over a year prior, despite the episode taking place a few months before the Black Hole Generator swallowed the Earth. Tiger Claw also has an eyepatch, despite him getting that during his dimensional travels when he went through the portal with the worm, which means he somehow got the eyepatch INSIDE the worm. So the timeline is all sorts of messed up here. It could be presumed that perhaps they failed and their universe did die originally, but that also doesn't make sense because Krang put a Dimensionizer inside the 2012 universe and the Prime universe, which would have destroyed EVERYTHING. Maybe it... just didn't happen? But there's no deviation in the 2012 timeline that would cause Krang to be allowed in Dimension X to make the Dimensionizers and travel to 2012 and Prime. Krang's backstory now is also incredibly contradictory, as he was an alien warlord from Dimension X who was reptilian, and was literally turned into a brain and banished, not an idiot Kraang who was banished for screwing up. The two Dimension Xs aren't even the same. But the episode isn't non-canon because "Wanted: Bebop and Rocksteady" is literally the finale and is another '87 crossover, referencing "Trans-Dimensional Turtles" a lot. It's honestly best not to question it as the entire episode, while well-made and nicely executed from a non-opinion standpoint, is a continuity nightmare and is impossible to properly explain.
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** UnusuallyUninterestingSight, maybe? New York ''is'' a CityOfWeirdos, after all.

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** UnusuallyUninterestingSight, maybe? New York ''is'' a CityOfWeirdos, City Of Weirdos, after all.
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** Splinter shows a dismal view on revenge in general and says to Karai directly that he believes it will only worsen things rather than solve them. He's not against thwarting Shredder's vengeance plots when they occur and typically will let loose on Saki when he tries them but is disinterested in actively hunting him down to finish him off.

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