History Headscratchers / TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003

14th Dec '15 5:14:57 AM lepouvantail
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*Actually, when the turtles meet Casey, he's clearly older, most likely a pre-teen/teen. He was very young compared to when he appeared in "The Lesson", so that solves that headscratcher.
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*Actually, **Actually, when the turtles meet Casey, he's clearly older, most likely a pre-teen/teen. He was very young compared to when he appeared in "The Lesson", so that solves that headscratcher.
14th Dec '15 5:10:56 AM lepouvantail
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* At several points in the series Shredder will list of a series of allieas he has, Ch'rell (his Utrom/birth name,) Oroku Saki, The Shredder and Duke Acureds. We know where most of these came from but where does the Duke Accureds thing come from?
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* At several points in the series Shredder will list of a series of allieas aliases he has, Ch'rell (his Utrom/birth name,) Oroku Saki, The Shredder and Duke Acureds. We know where most of these came from but where does the Duke Accureds thing come from?

* In season 1, the Guardians are always depicted as talking to the Utrom high council who are depicted as three human who speak with one voice (later revealed to be three human robots on top of a tank containing the utroms). Why the human disguise when the guardian obviously knew the truth?
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* In season 1, the Guardians are always depicted as talking to the Utrom high council who are depicted as three human who speak with one voice (later revealed to be three human robots on top of a tank containing the utroms).Utroms). Why the human disguise when the guardian obviously knew the truth?
14th Dec '15 5:09:16 AM lepouvantail
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** The series' time travel has consistently being presented as being of the ''Gargoyles''/ [[YouCantFightFate You can't fight fate]] /StableTimeLoop type, making "don't mess with time" a non-issue.
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** The series' time travel has consistently being presented as being of the ''Gargoyles''/ ''Gargoyles'': [[YouCantFightFate You can't fight fate]] /StableTimeLoop type, making "don't mess with time" a non-issue.
28th May '15 3:27:39 AM Belphegor
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* In "Return to New York", when Leonardo decapitates the Shredder, why did the Shredder go down at all, since he was an Utrom in an exoskeleton and Leo didn't hurt his little alien body by taking off his head? Why did it take so long for him to get back up, pick up his head and walk away?
7th Mar '15 7:47:27 PM SuperMagneto
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* Shredder being an alien who is over 400 years old causes problems. For example, he decides in 2003 to conquer the earth? Why hasn't the earth been conquered hundreds of years ago? You could said Mortu and the guardians were in the way, but Shredder seems like a cunning guy.
5th Mar '15 2:16:11 AM SuperMagneto
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* At the beginning of Season 4, the turtles and Master Splinter are still badly injured from their last fight with the Shredder. Why didn't the Utroms heal them with their advanced technology? Weren't they on good terms with them?
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* At the beginning of Season 4, the turtles and Master Splinter are still badly injured from their last fight with the Shredder. Why didn't the Utroms heal them with their advanced technology? Weren't they on good terms with them?them? * Shredder being an alien who is over 400 years old causes problems. For example, he decides in 2003 to conquer the earth? Why hasn't the earth been conquered hundreds of years ago? You could said Mortu and the guardians were in the way, but Shredder seems like a cunning guy.
1st Oct '14 12:04:57 AM Dracoblade
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Synthesize... what? Unfinished thought gets deleted.
** As a theory, perhaps the Shredder was attempting to synthesize
27th Jul '14 1:16:13 PM SoulRazorMinion
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* If O'Neil Tech is contractually forbidden from making weapons, how come Starlee lets the Turtles use the Transendental Lathe to make ninja weapons (and in Mikey's case, a whole suit of battle armor)?
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* If O'Neil Tech is contractually forbidden from making weapons, how come Starlee lets the Turtles use the Transendental Lathe to make ninja weapons (and in Mikey's case, a whole suit of battle armor)?armor)? * At the beginning of Season 4, the turtles and Master Splinter are still badly injured from their last fight with the Shredder. Why didn't the Utroms heal them with their advanced technology? Weren't they on good terms with them?
28th Apr '14 11:18:13 AM WildCat7812
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*Actually, when the turtles meet Casey, he's clearly older, most likely a pre-teen/teen. He was very young compared to when he appeared in "The Lesson", so that solves that headscratcher.
21st Feb '14 7:34:58 AM blackhorsebeth
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** If they showed up, we wouldn't have a good starting premise for Back To The Sewers, though. It's more than likely that they new about it and just decided not to act. Not every hero/{{Reality Warper}}/{{Time Lord}} is required to act, after all.
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** If they showed up, we wouldn't have a good starting premise for Back To The Sewers, though. It's more than likely that they new knew about it and just decided not to act. Not every hero/{{Reality Warper}}/{{Time Lord}} is required to act, after all.

* In Identity Crisis, the turtles had some memories depicting adventures that never happened such as Leo saving Renet from a sabertooth tiger, and Raph fighting while dressed as a pirate. What was up with these memories?
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* In Identity Crisis, the turtles had some memories depicting adventures that never happened such as Leo saving Renet from a sabertooth saber-tooth tiger, and Raph fighting while dressed as a pirate. What was up with these memories?

* What is up with the rather wonky age discrepancies of Hun and Casey that we see during Flashback episodes? When we see Hun and Casey together during the flashbacks to when Hun burned Casey's Father's store, Hun looks a lot younger than present day Hun, probably in his late teens. But when Hun appears in the flashback to when Hamato Yoshi dies, he looks the same age as he does in the present, implying that it must have been severa; years at least since he burned the store. Yet, in the episode where the child turtles try to train Casey Jones, (which is probably several *more* years later) Casey looks about the same age as he did when his father's store burned down. What gives? Either not as much time passed between these events as would at first appear (which means Hun went through a big growth spurt in a short time) or else Casey is a really late bloomer who is older than he looks. * Karai's behaviour bothers me. During her debut up until the episode "Hun On The Run" she seemed to be reluctant follower of the Shredder and questioned his methods, but stayed with him because he found her, raised her and taught ninjitsu. Most prominent example of this is in episode "Mission Of Gravity", where she knows that Shredder's method of removing Triceraton engine would kill millions of people and she even told the Turtles that she didn't wish to see so many people suffer because of her father. During the end she said that she could not easily abandon her father, even if he did bad things. Those episodes could make you feel sympathethic to Karai, she knows that Shredder is bad person, but can't simply abandom, because he gave her home and raised her, after all. Starting with episode "Same As It Never Was" she began to change. In the said episode she, actually her alternate future self, aided Shredder and stayed loyal to him even after he enslaved the entire planet and turned it into living nightmare, with many people either destroyed by him or suffering under his tyrannical rule. Shredder did all those things, yet she did nothing, staying loyal to him, while claiming that she is doing her job. In previous episodes Karai would disobey Shredder and would act against him (most notably in "Mission Of Gravity"), yet here she does nothing, allowing millions of people suffer, something that she could not do in previous episodes. Shredder had crossed the line in that episode, she should have realized that he had gone too far and must be dealt with, yet she remained entirely loyal to him. You could give this a pass, since this was an alternate universe, but that was the sign of Karai's semi-Flanderization which extended to present Karai. During the "Exodus" she was told by Shredder that Utroms had hunted him and were heartless monsters and she didn't knew the truth about her father. But when she finds out why Utroms persecuted her father and learns that he had commited many atrocities, which resulted in deaths of millions, if not more, innocent beings, she doesn't pull a HeelFaceTurn and realize that her father needed to be stopped, instead she seeks revenge against Turtles and is still loyal to her father, even after finding out that he was not as innocent as he tol her. By the way, Shredder also tried to kill Karai when she stopped him from killing the Turtles. What is wrong with you, Karai? You learned that your father had caused millions of deaths and suffering throughout galaxy and even attempted to kill you, yet you still think that it is Turtles fault? She only returned to her characterization as reluctant and honorable follower of the Shredder during the TurtlesForever, where she realized that Shredder cares only about his revenge and doesn't listen to her, something she should have realized back in Season 3. * In Back to the Sewers, where did the second Battle Shell and Turtle Taxi go?
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* What is up with the rather wonky age discrepancies of Hun and Casey that we see during Flashback episodes? When we see Hun and Casey together during the flashbacks to when Hun burned Casey's Father's store, Hun looks a lot younger than present day Hun, probably in his late teens. But when Hun appears in the flashback to when Hamato Yoshi dies, he looks the same age as he does in the present, implying that it must have been severa; several years at least since he burned the store. Yet, in the episode where the child turtles try to train Casey Jones, (which is probably several *more* years later) Casey looks about the same age as he did when his father's store burned down. What gives? Either not as much time passed between these events as would at first appear (which means Hun went through a big growth spurt in a short time) or else Casey is a really late bloomer who is older than he looks. * Karai's behaviour behavior bothers me. During her debut up until the episode "Hun On The Run" she seemed to be reluctant follower of the Shredder and questioned his methods, but stayed with him because he found her, raised her and taught ninjitsu. Most prominent example of this is in episode "Mission Of Gravity", where she knows that Shredder's method of removing Triceraton engine would kill millions of people and she even told the Turtles that she didn't wish to see so many people suffer because of her father. During the end she said that she could not easily abandon her father, even if he did bad things. Those episodes could make you feel sympathethic sympathetic to Karai, she knows that Shredder is bad person, but can't simply abandom, abandon him, because he gave her home and raised her, after all. Starting with episode "Same As It Never Was" she began to change. In the said episode she, actually her alternate future self, aided Shredder and stayed loyal to him even after he enslaved the entire planet and turned it into living nightmare, with many people either destroyed by him or suffering under his tyrannical rule. Shredder did all those things, yet she did nothing, staying loyal to him, while claiming that she is doing her job. In previous episodes Karai would disobey Shredder and would act against him (most notably in "Mission Of Gravity"), yet here she does nothing, allowing millions of people suffer, something that she could not do in previous episodes. Shredder had crossed the line in that episode, she should have realized that he had gone too far and must be dealt with, yet she remained entirely loyal to him. You could give this a pass, since this was an alternate universe, but that was the sign of Karai's semi-Flanderization which extended to present Karai. During the "Exodus" she was told by Shredder that Utroms had hunted him and were heartless monsters and she didn't knew the truth about her father. But when she finds out why Utroms persecuted her father and learns that he had commited committed many atrocities, which resulted in deaths of millions, if not more, innocent beings, she doesn't pull a HeelFaceTurn and realize that her father needed to be stopped, instead she seeks revenge against Turtles and is still loyal to her father, even after finding out that he was not as innocent as he tol told her. By the way, Shredder also tried to kill Karai when she stopped him from killing the Turtles. What is wrong with you, Karai? You learned that your father had caused millions of deaths and suffering throughout galaxy and even attempted to kill you, yet you still think that it is Turtles fault? She only returned to her characterization as reluctant and honorable follower of the Shredder during the TurtlesForever, where she realized that Shredder cares only about his revenge and doesn't listen to her, something she should have realized back in Season 3. * In Back to the Sewers, where did the second Battle Shell and Turtle Taxi go?go? * In "The Freaks Come Out at Night", if the Kanabo virus is vulnerable to Earth's sunlight, why does the mutated pigeon fly around in broad daylight unaffected? * If O'Neil Tech is contractually forbidden from making weapons, how come Starlee lets the Turtles use the Transendental Lathe to make ninja weapons (and in Mikey's case, a whole suit of battle armor)?
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