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*** As stated above, there was a good reason why there wasn't an iris or an IDC system: how would anyone identify themselves on the way in? A radio signal (like the IDC system) requires an active radio signal during an open wormhole. However, it was explicitly stated that the gate bridge is an "offline" solution; something goes in one end, and is repeatedly forwarded to the next gate in the bridge. There's no contiguous wormhole to broadcast through to make sure they let you through. I have no idea if the writers thought of this, but it would fit with canon…
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** It was also explicitly stated that the pod tried to revive her when they first arrived in the city, but McKay manually killed the process. It's entirely possible she barely aged at all during the 10,000 year process, then the last year of being partially unfrozen before being discovered caused 90-someodd percent of the aging we saw in the episode.

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** It was also explicitly stated that the pod tried to revive her when they first arrived in the city, but McKay Mckay manually killed the process. It's entirely possible she barely aged at all during the 10,000 year process, then the last year of being partially unfrozen before being discovered caused 90-someodd percent of the aging we saw in the episode.
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** It was also explicitly stated that the pod tried to revive her when they first arrived in the city, but McKay manually killed the process. It's entirely possible she barely aged at all during the 10,000 year process, then the last year of being partially unfrozen before being discovered caused 90-someodd percent of the aging we saw in the episode.
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*** If I remember correctly, at one point it was implied that the device was powered by the core of the planet it was on. At the time, I thought this meant geothermal, but in the wake of SG:U, it was probably more of an Icarus-type planet. I don't think there were any Zed-P-Ms to be had.
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*** I just realized why an iris (or other gate cover) wouldn't work; how would anyone identify themselves on the way in? A radio signal (like the IDCs) requires an active radio signal during an open wormhole. However, it was explicitly stated that the gate bridge is an "offline" solution; something goes in one end, and is repeatedly forwarded to the next gate in the bridge. There's no contiguous wormhole to broadcast through. I have no idea if the writers thought of this, but it would fit with canon…

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*** I just realized why an iris (or other gate cover) wouldn't work; how would anyone identify themselves on the way in? A radio signal (like the IDCs) IDC system) requires an active radio signal during an open wormhole. However, it was explicitly stated that the gate bridge is an "offline" solution; something goes in one end, and is repeatedly forwarded to the next gate in the bridge. There's no contiguous wormhole to broadcast through. I have no idea if the writers thought of this, but it would fit with canon…
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*** I just realized why an iris (or other gate cover) wouldn't work; how would anyone identify themselves on the way in? A radio signal (like the IDCs) requires an active radio signal during an open wormhole. However, it was explicitly stated that the gate bridge is an "offline" solution; something goes in one end, and is repeatedly forwarded to the next gate in the bridge. There's no contiguous wormhole to broadcast through. I have no idea if the writers thought of this, but it would fit with canon…
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*** Alternatively, the shield may not have an AI at all. Instead it could get its idea of what constitutes a threat from the mind of the user (Ancients aren't exactly strangers to interfacing a living mind with tech - It's how some of their more iconic pieces of tech, The Chair and the Puddle Jumpers, work). Lavin doesn't have the same problem as McKay because he is nowhere near as paranoid as McKay is.
** Writers always seem incapable of fully grasping what they invent or it’s secondary effects. In the case of that episode the Geni should never have been able to get near Lucius. He’s completely invulnerable, one punch to the head and he’s shattered your skull. You could never grapple with someone like that. Also it should be noted that Rodney let Shepherd push him off the balcony so even that isn’t really a comparison.

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*** Alternatively, the shield may not have an AI at all. Instead it could get its idea of what constitutes a threat from the mind of the user (Ancients aren't exactly strangers to interfacing a living mind with tech - It's how some of their more iconic pieces of tech, The Chair and the Puddle Jumpers, work). Lavin doesn't have the same problem as McKay [=McKay=] because he is nowhere near as paranoid as McKay [=McKay=] is.
** Writers always seem incapable of fully grasping what they invent or it’s its secondary effects. In the case of that episode the Geni should never have been able to get near Lucius. He’s completely invulnerable, one punch to the head and he’s shattered your skull. You could never grapple with someone like that. Also it should be noted that Rodney let Shepherd push him off the balcony so even that isn’t really a comparison.

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*** Not to mention the last time they tried working with Wraith it backfired horribly, costing them the Orion and inadvertently turning Micheal into an even bigger threat than before. Ultimately they were just being as cautious as possible.

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*** Not to mention the last time they tried working with Wraith it backfired horribly, costing them the Orion and inadvertently turning Micheal Michael into an even bigger threat than before. Ultimately they were just being as cautious as possible.


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*** In addition, due to the short range of Wraith beaming tech, any dart would have to get up very close to even use it on a hive. Most likely, the dart would have been intercepted or blown out of the sky before it got in range, hence anti-beaming measures would have been largely unnecessary when Wraith were facing off against other Wraith.


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**** Drones are a limited resource, humans can't make more of them like they can with missiles. Most of the time they're too valuable to use on small fry. Would they have enough drones to take on the Super Hive if they used some to shoot down waves of darts first?
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**** Asgard and Ancient ships seem to be completely different designs. It leads to the question: Are Asgard hyperdrives even compatible with an Aurora Class Vessel?
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*** The Wraith Hive had to wait until the last minute to make the jump into hyperspace because they were waiting for the darts to return. Our Heroes probably care too much about their people's lives and know that their ships (Earth has only ever built 6 of the 304s in the entirety of all the Stargate series and only 2, Daedalus and Apollo were ever dispatched to the Pegasus Galaxy) are too valuable to risk losing them and a ship for a few [=ZPMs=].
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*** Alternatively, the shield may not have an AI at all. Instead it could get its idea of what constitutes a threat from the mind of the user (Ancients aren't exactly strangers to interfacing a living mind with tech - It's how The Chair works). Lavin doesn't have the same problem as McKay because he is nowhere near as paranoid as McKay is.

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*** Alternatively, the shield may not have an AI at all. Instead it could get its idea of what constitutes a threat from the mind of the user (Ancients aren't exactly strangers to interfacing a living mind with tech - It's how some of their more iconic pieces of tech, The Chair works).and the Puddle Jumpers, work). Lavin doesn't have the same problem as McKay because he is nowhere near as paranoid as McKay is.
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*** Alternatively, the shield may not have an AI at all. Instead it could get its idea of what constitutes a threat from the mind of the user (Ancients aren't exactly strangers to interfacing a living mind with tech - It's how The Chair works). Lavin doesn't have the same problem as McKay because he is nowhere near as paranoid as McKay is.
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** It could be the case that the 302 is designed for maximum effectiveness with 2 people (or so theoretically they could be used for training pilots since an instructor could sit in one seat with a rookie whose being taught to fly the 302 in the other) but can still function with just 1 pilot. Take the episode with the Wraith computer virus on the Daedalus for example, Sheppard did all of the flying and shooting when he was in a 302 with McKay just going along for the ride.

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** It could be the case that the 302 is designed for maximum effectiveness with 2 people (or so theoretically they could be used for training pilots since an instructor could sit in one seat with a rookie whose being taught to fly the 302 in the other) but can still function with just 1 pilot. Take the episode with the Wraith computer virus on the Daedalus for example, Sheppard did all of the flying and shooting when he was in a 302 with McKay [=McKay=] just going along for the ride.
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**** Earth weapons use Earth ammunition. 5.7 and 9mm are government calibers. Government contracts being what they are, Atlantis probably had somewhere around a million rounds of ammunition sent their way.
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** It's being continued on DVD because Sci-Fi channel is [[WhatAnIdiot run by idiots]].
*** Not anymore its not. Confirmed by Jason Momoa and the selling off of the props and gear. They decided to save money by not funding Atlantis Extinction and focus more on Stargate Universe. ON the bright side another SG-1 DVD movie is in the talks.

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** It's being continued on DVD because Sci-Fi channel is [[WhatAnIdiot run by idiots]].
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*** Not anymore its it’s not. Confirmed by Jason Momoa and the selling off of the props and gear. They decided to save money by not funding Atlantis Extinction and focus more on Stargate Universe. ON the bright side another SG-1 DVD movie is in the talks.
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** ''Many'' Europeans who speak English are self-taught from TV, which is mostly dominated by American media.


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* So, the Wraith-Ancient war. Why were both sides absolute idiots?
** On the Ancient side: even after the Wraith have powered up their cloning facility, the humans in the galaxy must have necessarily outnumbered them. The Lanteans were losing the war through attrition. The humans they seeded in Pegasus were anatomically modern humans thus they had the same intelligence as a modern human even if they were technologically primitive... so why didn't the Ancients consider enlisting their help and arming them against the Wraith? We've seen that even comparatively primitive Tau'ri weapons are highly effective against Wraith technology, a large human army paired with the Lanteans' industrial capacity would have wiped them out. It's not like they had any kind of a Prime Directive, as seen in "The Game".
** On the Wraith side: once they got the cloning facility running, why even bother continuing the war? They could clone humans too so they could have had infinite food at their fingertips, infinite food that doesn't fight back. At that point they could have sued for peace.
** And even if the war couldn't be stopped because the sides had been at each others' throats for millennia: why continue the cycle of hibernation periods and culling periods for the next ten thousand years after they won? Just wipe out the remaining humans in the galaxy, populate a few space-gated planets as their hunting grounds if they want to hunt for sport, and keep cloning enough humans to sustain a stable Wraith population. Sure, the big cloning facility required [=ZPM=]s to run but smaller-scale cloning operations (like Michael's) could be run on conventional power sources as well.
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*** There MAY be hope for the future, however, because the buyer of all of the props and gear is none other than David Hewlett (aka Rodney Mckay).

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*** There MAY be hope for the future, however, because the buyer of all of the props and gear is none other than David Hewlett (aka Rodney Mckay).[=Mckay=]).
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***More of giving the Wraith access to a machine they could reverse engineer to generate their food, not use it themselves. Also it doesn't seem to have a mental effect when it heals damage (as evidenced by O'neill's multiple resurrections by Baal) and hunger would fit under that category.
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** Or it could be that since the wraith are a highly hierarchical and militaristic culture, "Lt. Kenmore" would be better able to integrate any lingering wraith-y tendencies into a military construct.

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** Or it could be that since the wraith Wraith are a highly hierarchical and militaristic culture, "Lt. Kenmore" would be better able to integrate any lingering wraith-y tendencies into a military construct.

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