History Headscratchers / StarWarsTheCloneWars

14th Jan '17 6:13:58 PM nombretomado
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** This series takes place in 21 BBY, one year after ''Star Wars Episode II''. They don't care if it doesn't make any sense with prior sources. For example, Grievous's cough is not caused by the scene in the original ''Clone Wars'' show and has no explanation (It was to be in link with the movie, in which he had had the cough for about a week. (The movie begins a week after Palpatine is kidnapped in ''Clone Wars''.)) As for Anakin becoming a Knight, it happened right after the Clone Wars started, which may or may not mean he did not have all those adventures with Obi-Wan that were used as justification for his skipping the Trials in ''Clone Wars''. They may have happened within the span of a single year: actually only a few months because the BBY system does not exactly mesh with the in-universe calender. The big problem with this series's place in continuity is that the Clone Wars only lasted for three years and that LucasArts decided to capitalize on the prequel trilogy by documenting the events of this war '''to the month'''. Then they decided, five years into this project, to make this show and include characters who were doing many different things: characters like [[TheProtagonist Anakin]] have barely have a month in-universe without an adventure of some kind. The people who make this show decided to connect it to Revenge of the Sith and the film characters that are popular ([[AndZoidberg and Jar Jar]]), which are not the same characters development-wise as they were at the beginning of the Clone Wars. There are many other discrepancies that are created by their ''inserting'' of this show, but they are far too numerous to list so I'll just do one more. You see Anakin's scar about his eye? He got that fighting Asajj Ventress in 20 BBY. Refer to the date I gave you at the start of this explanation. (Frankly, they missed an opportunity by giving him the scar. They could have omitted it for the series and re-released the comic issue where he received it as a special edition, thus making money. But that would have made too much sense to the fans of pre-TCW canon.)

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** This series takes place in 21 BBY, one year after ''Star Wars Episode II''. They don't care if it doesn't make any sense with prior sources. For example, Grievous's cough is not caused by the scene in the original ''Clone Wars'' show and has no explanation (It was to be in link with the movie, in which he had had the cough for about a week. (The movie begins a week after Palpatine is kidnapped in ''Clone Wars''.)) As for Anakin becoming a Knight, it happened right after the Clone Wars started, which may or may not mean he did not have all those adventures with Obi-Wan that were used as justification for his skipping the Trials in ''Clone Wars''. They may have happened within the span of a single year: actually only a few months because the BBY system does not exactly mesh with the in-universe calender. calendar. The big problem with this series's place in continuity is that the Clone Wars only lasted for three years and that LucasArts Creator/LucasArts decided to capitalize on the prequel trilogy by documenting the events of this war '''to the month'''. Then they decided, five years into this project, to make this show and include characters who were doing many different things: characters like [[TheProtagonist Anakin]] have barely have a month in-universe without an adventure of some kind. The people who make this show decided to connect it to Revenge of the Sith and the film characters that are popular ([[AndZoidberg and Jar Jar]]), which are not the same characters development-wise as they were at the beginning of the Clone Wars. There are many other discrepancies that are created by their ''inserting'' of this show, but they are far too numerous to list so I'll just do one more. You see Anakin's scar about his eye? He got that fighting Asajj Ventress in 20 BBY. Refer to the date I gave you at the start of this explanation. (Frankly, they missed an opportunity by giving him the scar. They could have omitted it for the series and re-released the comic issue where he received it as a special edition, thus making money. But that would have made too much sense to the fans of pre-TCW canon.)
23rd Nov '16 2:53:02 AM Hawkeye86
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** It's analogous to collecting the body parts of fallen enemies. If someone was collecting the fingers of your enemies, wouldn't that person seem crazy?

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** It's analogous to collecting the body parts of fallen enemies. If someone was In real life it's done to people and therefore a sign the collecting soldier is unstable or insane, however something gets lost when you try to translate the fingers of your enemies, wouldn't that person seem crazy?
scenario but swap out living opponents with robotic ones.
25th Oct '16 6:48:28 PM nombretomado
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** This is another example of either GeorgeLucas or his daughter (who wrote the episode) telling any fans of the EU in their audience that none of the stories they read ever canonically happened. It's frustrating.

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** This is another example of either GeorgeLucas Creator/GeorgeLucas or his daughter (who wrote the episode) telling any fans of the EU in their audience that none of the stories they read ever canonically happened. It's frustrating.



** GeorgeLucas has repeatedly called the ExpandedUniverse a parallel universe. I think the idea that the EU is the canonical expansion of the movies was a combination of miscommunication on some high level people and wishful thinking. I remember him saying about how there wasn't really a story after the second Death Star blew up, how Han and Leia got married, Leia probably became a senator, and Han is grilling burgers on a barbecue (I'd say no ''interesting'' story. The Empire probably didn't just roll over and take it, and there probably was years of mop-up, but the Empire never had the kinds of resurgence in his vision that it did in the EU).

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** GeorgeLucas Creator/GeorgeLucas has repeatedly called the ExpandedUniverse a parallel universe. I think the idea that the EU is the canonical expansion of the movies was a combination of miscommunication on some high level people and wishful thinking. I remember him saying about how there wasn't really a story after the second Death Star blew up, how Han and Leia got married, Leia probably became a senator, and Han is grilling burgers on a barbecue (I'd say no ''interesting'' story. The Empire probably didn't just roll over and take it, and there probably was years of mop-up, but the Empire never had the kinds of resurgence in his vision that it did in the EU).
20th Oct '16 7:29:24 AM dlchen145
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** Well, standard TIE Fighters are also shieldless in most incarnations, so Droid Fighters might be also. In fact, we saw Mace Windu lightsabring some Vulture Droids without shield interactions in the first Clone Wars series in the last chapters and it was awesome. I guess Ahsoka doesn't get to get away with this because she's a Scrappy and Mace Windu is played by Samuel L. Jackson and is therefore BadAss incarnate.

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** Well, standard TIE Fighters are also shieldless in most incarnations, so Droid Fighters might be also. In fact, we saw Mace Windu lightsabring some Vulture Droids without shield interactions in the first Clone Wars series in the last chapters and it was awesome. I guess Ahsoka doesn't get to get away with this because she's a Scrappy and Mace Windu is played by Samuel L. Jackson and is therefore BadAss badass incarnate.
16th Oct '16 10:30:31 PM Historian1912
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** Because Jabba is a crime lord, not a ruler. Assuming what you're saying hasn't been made non-canon in the new EU, the short answer is that the Hutts largely don't have a government, no country that can be attacked. Toydaria, if it broke neutrality, would make itself a target for the enemy of their new ally. The Hutts, however, can just reorganize if a bit of their business takes a hit since they don't really need to control a whole planet to make a profit. They just need to control a good amount of any given planet's criminal element.
20th Sep '16 7:20:52 PM nombretomado
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** He simply didn't have the screen time for goofing around in AttackOfTheClones. It doesn't mean that he was any less TheDitz[=/=]SpannerInTheWorks, it just wasn't shown, exactly because of hate he got for it in ThePhantomMenace.

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** He simply didn't have the screen time for goofing around in AttackOfTheClones.Film/AttackOfTheClones. It doesn't mean that he was any less TheDitz[=/=]SpannerInTheWorks, it just wasn't shown, exactly because of hate he got for it in ThePhantomMenace.
20th Sep '16 7:20:09 PM nombretomado
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** There are too many extenuating circumstances in Anakin's fall to blame it purely on Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was knighted and given a padawan (with a ridiculous amount of problems, I might add) long before he was ready. Being strict was likely the only way to establish control of the situation, since the Council didn't have much faith in him ''or'' Anakin. The only guidelines he had for training Anakin came from Qui-Gon Jinn, who wasn't exactly the most amiable Jedi master to Obi-Wan (at least at first) because of the betrayal of his first apprentice Xanatos. Furthermore, we know that while Obi-Wan was critical, he was the only one who consistently defended Anakin in front of the Council. We know that both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan ''really'' mellowed with age: compare the first Jedi Apprentice book with Qui-Gon in ThePhantomMenace, and see how much warmer Obi-Wan is RevengeOfTheSith. And, lastly, communication is a two-way street. There are concerns in AttackOfTheClones that Anakin never airs to his master. You might say it's because he feared his concerns would be easily dismissed, but you can't solve a problem if you only vent it to the one person (Padme) who can't do anything about it. Yes, I think Obi-Wan could have done more to understand Anakin. Even if he was raised at the Temple and against forming attachments, [[NotSoDifferent he had anger issues in his youth too]], and even deserted the Order at one time. But maybe that's why he's critical to Anakin: because he's seen where he's made so many mistakes, and he doesn't want Anakin to do the same. Maybe if Obi-Wan and Anakin had actually listened to each other more often, if Palpatine hadn't been poisoning Anakin against them, if [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny hadn't said so]]... it all might have been avoided. But you know how it goes.

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** There are too many extenuating circumstances in Anakin's fall to blame it purely on Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was knighted and given a padawan (with a ridiculous amount of problems, I might add) long before he was ready. Being strict was likely the only way to establish control of the situation, since the Council didn't have much faith in him ''or'' Anakin. The only guidelines he had for training Anakin came from Qui-Gon Jinn, who wasn't exactly the most amiable Jedi master to Obi-Wan (at least at first) because of the betrayal of his first apprentice Xanatos. Furthermore, we know that while Obi-Wan was critical, he was the only one who consistently defended Anakin in front of the Council. We know that both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan ''really'' mellowed with age: compare the first Jedi Apprentice book with Qui-Gon in ThePhantomMenace, Film/ThePhantomMenace, and see how much warmer Obi-Wan is RevengeOfTheSith.Film/RevengeOfTheSith. And, lastly, communication is a two-way street. There are concerns in AttackOfTheClones Film/AttackOfTheClones that Anakin never airs to his master. You might say it's because he feared his concerns would be easily dismissed, but you can't solve a problem if you only vent it to the one person (Padme) who can't do anything about it. Yes, I think Obi-Wan could have done more to understand Anakin. Even if he was raised at the Temple and against forming attachments, [[NotSoDifferent he had anger issues in his youth too]], and even deserted the Order at one time. But maybe that's why he's critical to Anakin: because he's seen where he's made so many mistakes, and he doesn't want Anakin to do the same. Maybe if Obi-Wan and Anakin had actually listened to each other more often, if Palpatine hadn't been poisoning Anakin against them, if [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny hadn't said so]]... it all might have been avoided. But you know how it goes.
23rd Aug '16 8:03:47 PM SSJMagus
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** Seeing as Force sensitivity clearly has a hereditary component, it would be very unusual indeed for a clone to be Force sensitive if the original template was not. But we've seen that sometimes clones come out with unexpected and even beneficial mutations (ie the "Bad Batch"), so it would be possible.
12th Aug '16 8:37:13 AM Peteman
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** Yes, but understand that Force-Sensitivity that's Jedi calibre is incredibly rare (the population of the Republic is at least in the trillions, but they only have 10'000 Jedi), and there are external factors that would probably try to suppress the inclusion of such an individual, like Palpatine.
12th Aug '16 7:52:53 AM firejewel
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* In "Ambush", Yoda tells his clone troopers that because they are all living beings they are connected to the Force, even if only weakly. Does that mean a clone could be Force sensitive and become a Jedi?
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