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14th Jan '18 7:38:13 AM Dragon101
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*** Most likely, the Jedi used to allow marriage but forbade it as part of the Ruusan Accords following the Great Sith Wars. ''Legends'' continuity mildly indicates that a number of Jedi joined the renegade Kaan when he founded the Brotherhood of Darkness Sith Cult, so possibly many of them were married couples (especially considering Kaan has MindControl powers and this might have made couples more vulnerable), so perhaps that had something to do with it.



** Palpatine is incredibly arrogant and selfish, does not believe the Beast is sentient, and wants the durability of the Beast's scales investigated.

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** Palpatine is incredibly arrogant and selfish, does not believe the Beast is sentient, sentient (or believes, but doesn't acknowledge or care), and wants the durability of the Beast's scales investigated.investigated.
*** The most likely explanation is that Palpatine couldn't resist seeing the Zillo Beast in person and didn't mind endangering an entire planet to satisfy his curiosity, and Coruscant also just happened to be one of the places that had the facilities to experiment on it.


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*** From Obi-Wans perspective, the Jedi are veering far away from their role as peacekeepers, so Tarkins criticism that they should be even ''more'' ruthless, or stand aside for someone who is, doesn't hit home. Obviously from an audience point of view, [[AMillionIsAStatistic we know exactly what Tarkin means by this]] , but even from the perspective of Kenobi what Tarkin is saying sounds a bit ominous.
9th Jan '18 12:47:15 PM Dragon101
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[[folder:Padmé and Ahsoka]]
* How does Padmé see Ahsoka. I mean, we all know that Anakin sees her somewhere between a little sister and a daughter. How does his wife view her?
** Probably neutrally or like family, since there's an [[LikesOlderWomen age difference]] between Anakin and Padmé of about five years, and he was awkward with in AOTC since he liked her (Padmé) and would probably describe "Snips" in terms similar to Obi-Wan.

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* How does Padmé Padme; see Ahsoka. I mean, we all know that Anakin sees her somewhere between a little sister and a daughter. How does his wife view her?
** Probably neutrally or like family, since there's an [[LikesOlderWomen age difference]] between Anakin and Padmé Padme; of about five years, and he was awkward with in AOTC since he liked her (Padmé) and would probably describe "Snips" in terms similar to Obi-Wan.Obi-Wan.
** Well, Padme and Ashoka interact fairly frequently and get along very well, so at the very least she sees her as a friend, and like Anakin Padme is something of a mentor to her as well.


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** He was probably assigned ''because'' he was a former slave and thus, knows exactly what to expect from people like this and how to behave around them (compare Ashoka, who kept slipping up). For the most part he acted entirely at ease throughout the mission, which is admittedly at odds with how he behaved in the first episode of the arc (barely contained murderous rage) but outside of that he proved that he was a perfectly fine choice for the mission.


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** It is never explicitly said that the Son ''is'' the embodiment of the Dark Side, or that the Father or the Daughter are embodiments themselves, at least not in these original episodes (elsewhere in the lore it is said they are, but I think that was another character who met them speculating). There is also a deleted scene where he is shown to be manipulated by the spirits of ancient Sith Lords, undermining the idea that he is the Dark Side incarnate. It might be more probable that he and his family are just ridiculously powerful Force users, maybe due to living so long on that particular planet even (if the Father wanted Anakin to stay there, maybe he would have become like them eventually?), and that is why he isn't pure evil.
6th Jan '18 7:12:26 AM Dragon101
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** It is established in the second Satine episode that Mandalore was a Warrior society as recently as when before Satine came to power, and that she herself is responsible for the culture of pacifism that permeates it now, though she obviously had a level of support from a sizeable chunk of the population, probably because the society had broken into outright civil war. Most of the time when somebody says that Mandalores violent ways are in it's "distant past" that person is ''Satine herself'', and her word should be taken with a grain of salt- she clearly sees the world she has created through rose-tinted glasses and thinks things are better than they really are (and if they aren't, [[NeverMyFault it's the fault of the Republic and the war]]), despite half her government being corrupt or disloyal, and even her own sister thinking she's lost it. It might be telling that the Mandalorian capital is in a gigantic glass box in the middle of the desert as well- Satine is almost literally living in a bubble and out-of-touch with much of the reality of the planet, as is the audience since we see so little of Mandalore outside of her eyes.
6th Jan '18 6:26:39 AM Dragon101
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*** That might be more of a policy thing than a "droids have rights" thing. Perhaps the droids are considered property seized by the Republic, or it's just seen as bad for discipline to let troopers collect droid parts. Nothing indicates that it is because droids are seen to have fundamental rights- Anakin and Ahsoka repeatedly get funny looks from other Jedi for treating R2-D2 as anything more than a glorified tool, and in fact Kenobi is outraged at Anakin for not wiping R2s memory banks in one episode.
7th Jun '17 7:49:40 PM Shywarp
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**Clones aren't necessarily programmed-the inhibitor chips monitor and manipulate their brains. Clones are all independent in battle but Kaminoans never encouraged individuality. Most Jedi saw them as individuals and encouraged their free thinking. Since Slick was also a higher ranking clone, he also saw a lot of brothers die in useless battles, which was the main reason why he betrayed the GAR. It's just that many clones thought it was a privilege and necessity to fight in the war because it was all they had ever known. Honestly, anyone who has a mind would want out of a life of being faceless sheltered canon fodder.
7th Jun '17 7:26:58 PM Shywarp
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** Gregor had amnesia and when he was told he was a clone he jumped right back into the fight. One the other hand you have clones like Cut Lawquane, Fives, and eventually Rex who know they're not just disposable numbers and deserve as much freedom as other sentient beings
7th Jun '17 7:14:40 PM Shywarp
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***Well remember The Hidden Enemy? Apparently, it's forbidden for clones to take droid parts from the battlefield
5th Jun '17 4:53:51 AM Sanokal
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** Do recall that the end of Lair of Grievous and Revenge of the Sith make points on the dangers of the Jedi losing their way in the wartime.



** Canon? The freaking second movie directly states that the dark side is clouding the future.



** There's also the possibility that those particular Magnaguards have been damaged in previous battles. Grievous intends for them to learn and refuses to spruce the (already expensive droids up), so it's possibly motivated by cost and efficiency.



* George Lucas supposedly banned the Cortosis sword to be used by Pre Viszla in "The Mandalore Plot" and let it be replaced by a regular lightsaber because no weapon should be on par with the lightsaber. Okay, so why are the Magna Guard staffs fine to be used? Hondo Ohnaka dueled Anakin in "Bounty Hunters" much the same way Pre Viszla dueled Obi-Wan.

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* George Lucas supposedly banned the Cortosis sword to be used by Pre Viszla in "The Mandalore Plot" and let it be replaced by a regular lightsaber because no weapon should be on par with the lightsaber. Okay, so why are the Magna Guard Magnaguard staffs fine to be used? Hondo Ohnaka dueled Anakin in "Bounty Hunters" much the same way Pre Viszla dueled Obi-Wan.



** And don't certain alloys of Cortosis have the potential to deactivate the blades?



** They took him at his word because he spoke for Amidala, who was ''against'' the war. Her voice effectively doing a 180 is possibly the strongest support for it there is, as is explained in the Episode II novelization.



** The animators have a limited budget. CGI isn't cheap. It is part of the reason the battles get better and larger over time; they have more money and resources to work with. They have to re-use character models wherever they can, but you don't notice it most of the time.

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** The animators have a limited budget. CGI isn't cheap. It is part of the reason the battles get better and larger over time; they have more money and resources to work with. They have to re-use character models wherever they can, can (tactical droids), but you don't notice it most of the time.


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* Doesn't he claim that Gunray is a facist with his own resources?


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** Do remember as well that a new "batch" of clones is ready every year effectively.


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** Clone armour is made of a plastoid alloy.
19th May '17 12:28:20 AM AthenaBlue
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* Anyone else find it a bit odd during the "Carnage of Krell" episode that clone troopers rush towards a light-saber wielding Jedi? You have guns for a reason! Shoot at him from a distance?

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* Anyone else find it a bit odd during the "Carnage of Krell" episode that clone troopers rush towards a light-saber wielding lightsaber-wielding Jedi? You have guns for a reason! Shoot at him from a distance?



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19th May '17 12:25:20 AM AthenaBlue
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** To train the new ones? Sure, maybe, but the whole point of the Handmaidens is essentially to look and seem enough like the actual ruling monarch. Their whole role is to "be" the monarch while in danger; see the start of Attack of the Clones when the bomb goes off and kills the decoy. So some probably did stick around, but by this point they've mostly been chewed away by attrition since Padme is like a black cat when it comes to assassinations...

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** To train the new ones? Sure, maybe, but the whole point of the Handmaidens is essentially to look and seem enough like the actual ruling monarch. Their whole role is to "be" the monarch while in danger; see the start of Attack ''Attack of the Clones Clones'' when the bomb goes off and kills the decoy. So some probably did stick around, but by this point they've mostly been chewed away by attrition since Padme Padmé is like a black cat when it comes to assassinations...
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