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20th Sep '16 7:20:52 PM nombretomado
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** He simply didn't have the screen time for goofing around in AttackOfTheClones. It doesn't mean that he was any less TheDitz[=/=]SpannerInTheWorks, it just wasn't shown, exactly because of hate he got for it in ThePhantomMenace.

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** He simply didn't have the screen time for goofing around in AttackOfTheClones.Film/AttackOfTheClones. It doesn't mean that he was any less TheDitz[=/=]SpannerInTheWorks, it just wasn't shown, exactly because of hate he got for it in ThePhantomMenace.
20th Sep '16 7:20:09 PM nombretomado
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** There are too many extenuating circumstances in Anakin's fall to blame it purely on Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was knighted and given a padawan (with a ridiculous amount of problems, I might add) long before he was ready. Being strict was likely the only way to establish control of the situation, since the Council didn't have much faith in him ''or'' Anakin. The only guidelines he had for training Anakin came from Qui-Gon Jinn, who wasn't exactly the most amiable Jedi master to Obi-Wan (at least at first) because of the betrayal of his first apprentice Xanatos. Furthermore, we know that while Obi-Wan was critical, he was the only one who consistently defended Anakin in front of the Council. We know that both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan ''really'' mellowed with age: compare the first Jedi Apprentice book with Qui-Gon in ThePhantomMenace, and see how much warmer Obi-Wan is RevengeOfTheSith. And, lastly, communication is a two-way street. There are concerns in AttackOfTheClones that Anakin never airs to his master. You might say it's because he feared his concerns would be easily dismissed, but you can't solve a problem if you only vent it to the one person (Padme) who can't do anything about it. Yes, I think Obi-Wan could have done more to understand Anakin. Even if he was raised at the Temple and against forming attachments, [[NotSoDifferent he had anger issues in his youth too]], and even deserted the Order at one time. But maybe that's why he's critical to Anakin: because he's seen where he's made so many mistakes, and he doesn't want Anakin to do the same. Maybe if Obi-Wan and Anakin had actually listened to each other more often, if Palpatine hadn't been poisoning Anakin against them, if [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny hadn't said so]]... it all might have been avoided. But you know how it goes.

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** There are too many extenuating circumstances in Anakin's fall to blame it purely on Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was knighted and given a padawan (with a ridiculous amount of problems, I might add) long before he was ready. Being strict was likely the only way to establish control of the situation, since the Council didn't have much faith in him ''or'' Anakin. The only guidelines he had for training Anakin came from Qui-Gon Jinn, who wasn't exactly the most amiable Jedi master to Obi-Wan (at least at first) because of the betrayal of his first apprentice Xanatos. Furthermore, we know that while Obi-Wan was critical, he was the only one who consistently defended Anakin in front of the Council. We know that both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan ''really'' mellowed with age: compare the first Jedi Apprentice book with Qui-Gon in ThePhantomMenace, Film/ThePhantomMenace, and see how much warmer Obi-Wan is RevengeOfTheSith.Film/RevengeOfTheSith. And, lastly, communication is a two-way street. There are concerns in AttackOfTheClones Film/AttackOfTheClones that Anakin never airs to his master. You might say it's because he feared his concerns would be easily dismissed, but you can't solve a problem if you only vent it to the one person (Padme) who can't do anything about it. Yes, I think Obi-Wan could have done more to understand Anakin. Even if he was raised at the Temple and against forming attachments, [[NotSoDifferent he had anger issues in his youth too]], and even deserted the Order at one time. But maybe that's why he's critical to Anakin: because he's seen where he's made so many mistakes, and he doesn't want Anakin to do the same. Maybe if Obi-Wan and Anakin had actually listened to each other more often, if Palpatine hadn't been poisoning Anakin against them, if [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny hadn't said so]]... it all might have been avoided. But you know how it goes.
23rd Aug '16 8:03:47 PM SSJMagus
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** Seeing as Force sensitivity clearly has a hereditary component, it would be very unusual indeed for a clone to be Force sensitive if the original template was not. But we've seen that sometimes clones come out with unexpected and even beneficial mutations (ie the "Bad Batch"), so it would be possible.
12th Aug '16 8:37:13 AM Peteman
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** Yes, but understand that Force-Sensitivity that's Jedi calibre is incredibly rare (the population of the Republic is at least in the trillions, but they only have 10'000 Jedi), and there are external factors that would probably try to suppress the inclusion of such an individual, like Palpatine.
12th Aug '16 7:52:53 AM firejewel
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* In "Ambush", Yoda tells his clone troopers that because they are all living beings they are connected to the Force, even if only weakly. Does that mean a clone could be Force sensitive and become a Jedi?
19th Jun '16 2:50:00 PM nombretomado
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** I guess they could do something like say "Oh, that was actually Dengar ''Senior'', and the Dengar who swoop-raced Han Solo is like ten years old or whatever just like Han at the time the show is taking place," or say "Oh, the Dengar seen in ESB modeled himself after this earlier guy because of his reputation," but they really shouldn't have to. I've said before and will say again that when TheThrawnTrilogy came out it was touted by LucasFilm as the continuation of the story and that fans were being given Episodes 7, 8, 9, and so on. Then Lucas went and made some more movies and now this tv show, and he goes "Actually, no, I'll contradict those stories as much as I want to because despite what I told you before, they don't matter. And I really don't care if this rubs fans who think they ''do'' matter the wrong way." ''That's'' the real reason we're seeing an adult Dengar (and one who is capable of lust, at that) in the Clone Wars, because both George ''and'' Katie Lucas just did not give a shit about the story established for him in the EU. If you asked George, he'd probably tell you that Dengar never raced Han, never crashed and got injured, never got rebuilt into a cyborg killing machine by the Empire, none of it...or that all of that stuff happened in some parallel universe. It's the same as asking why the majority of Mandalorians in the Clone Wars era are completely unlike the Mandalorians from the books, comics, and video games; there ''is'' no reason or explanation for it, other than "Those other stories don't matter, because they were not written by me, George Lucas."

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** I guess they could do something like say "Oh, that was actually Dengar ''Senior'', and the Dengar who swoop-raced Han Solo is like ten years old or whatever just like Han at the time the show is taking place," or say "Oh, the Dengar seen in ESB modeled himself after this earlier guy because of his reputation," but they really shouldn't have to. I've said before and will say again that when TheThrawnTrilogy Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy came out it was touted by LucasFilm as the continuation of the story and that fans were being given Episodes 7, 8, 9, and so on. Then Lucas went and made some more movies and now this tv show, and he goes "Actually, no, I'll contradict those stories as much as I want to because despite what I told you before, they don't matter. And I really don't care if this rubs fans who think they ''do'' matter the wrong way." ''That's'' the real reason we're seeing an adult Dengar (and one who is capable of lust, at that) in the Clone Wars, because both George ''and'' Katie Lucas just did not give a shit about the story established for him in the EU. If you asked George, he'd probably tell you that Dengar never raced Han, never crashed and got injured, never got rebuilt into a cyborg killing machine by the Empire, none of it...or that all of that stuff happened in some parallel universe. It's the same as asking why the majority of Mandalorians in the Clone Wars era are completely unlike the Mandalorians from the books, comics, and video games; there ''is'' no reason or explanation for it, other than "Those other stories don't matter, because they were not written by me, George Lucas."
5th Apr '16 8:29:23 PM Terreliv
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** Probably neutrally or like family, since there's an [[LikesOlderWomen age difference]] between Anakin and Padme of about five years, and he was awkward with in AOTC since he liked her(Padme) and would probably describe "Snips" in terms similar to Obi-Wan.
13th Mar '16 9:24:01 AM EDP
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[[folder:Toydarian neutrality]]

* In "Supply Lines", the Toydarians initially refuse the use of their homeworld as a supply base for the Republic to protect their neutrality. How can they be neutral when Toydaria is a vassal world of the Hutt, who Jabba has already committed on the Republic's side?
7th Mar '16 12:46:07 PM yarol2075
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*** True, but he could have at least acknowledged that his actions caused Boba grief and pain, and that he did regret that. It is possible something as simple as that could have saved everyone a lot grief later. His "You'll have to" comes off as compassionless and cruel, something that seems very unjedi-ish.
20th Feb '16 9:57:50 AM Discar
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[[folder:Padme's handmaidens]]

* Padmé has handmaidens in the live-action movies, bodyguards who have in the past impersonated her in times of trouble and were shown to be fully willing to die for her in the line of combat. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Where. The.]] ''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Hell.]]'' Are they during the course of the movie and the series when Padmé is being her usual self? Specifically, trying to be either a hero or a martyr - it's hard to say which.
** They served her during her tenure as the elected Queen of Naboo. Once she left office, she lost most of her handmaidens, but did keep some. This show has brought back one, Tekla, but don't expect very many because they're back on Naboo serving the new Queen. [[FridgeHorror Unless they've been fired for looking too much like Natalie Portman]].
** Not sure how that is Fridge Horror since their job revolves around looking like the person they are supposed to protect. Every time Naboo gets a new monarch I imagine that the previous bodyguards, in this case the queen's handmaidens, are discharged from service, probably with a glowing endorsement for whatever job they try to get next. Their time as handmaidens ends when the queen's time in office ends.
** They are a bunch of trained body guards who served the Queen faithfully and was trained to take a blaster bolt for the monarch if need be. Chances are the new monarch just kept them on staff in other needed positions.
** Over time that might get more than a little crowded. Personally I'd think the handmaidens would be relieved to be discharged from service. Playing 'target of assassination' for four to eight years has got to be very stressful.
** Who would be more qualified to train the bodyguard/doubles of the new monarch than the bodyguard/doubles of the previous one?
** To train the new ones? Sure, maybe, but the whole point of the Handmaidens is essentially to look and seem enough like the actual ruling monarch. Their whole role is to "be" the monarch while in danger; see the start of Attack of the Clones when the bomb goes off and kills the decoy. So some probably did stick around, but by this point they've mostly been chewed away by attrition since Padme is like a black cat when it comes to assassinations...
** Maybe the survivors all got plastic surgery and are guarding the new Queen. If they're devoted enough to fight to the death in defense of their monarch, they're probably willing to go under the laser-scalpel for her too.
** That would actually be incredibly stupid, considering the whole point is to look like the queen as much as possible. The monarchs are young, judging by Amidala in Epsode I. There's only so much you can do to hide things like body type, age difference, height, etc. There's also the effects of stress to consider. Eight years of being an assassination target is enough to fry anyone's nerves.

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[[folder:Space elevator]]

* In the episode "Bounty" Boba and his crew of bounty hunters visit Quarzite, a planet where landing with a spaceship is impossible due to the high presure of the atmosphere, so the locals are using a SpaceElevator for space travel. But if the pressure of the atmosphere is so high, how did they manage to build the elevator?
** Possibly they achieved communication with spacefarers first, and whomever they contacted built the elevator top-down from orbit?
** Or the locally-built ships can take the pressure but off-world vessels can't? Remember that a spaceship wouldn't be designed to take any more than 1.5 atmospheres' pressure differential without an extremely good reason. Even with Star Wars' rather loose approach to realism in technology.
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