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** It's a ShoutOut to something said to the [[DirtyCommunists Russian ambassador]] by the [[{{Eagleland}} American ambassador]] during the UsefulNotes/CubanMissileCrisis. It made as little sense in RealLife as it did in Franchise/StarTrek.
*** Actually, it made a kind of sense if you read the subtext as, "Don't use waiting for the translation as a way to stall for thinking time that you shouldn't need to answer a question that you should know the answer to. . . only if I say all that (and all this) I'll have given you exactly what you wanted, a stall for time, so I'll just tell you not to wait for the translation and then shut up so you can be on the spot in front of everyone."
*** Except neither Kirk nor [=McCoy=] speak Klingon, and what we're hearing is TranslationConvention. Why couldn't they use universal translators? They wouldn't even know he said "Don't wait for the translation" until they heard it in English. Same with the Russian ambassador. It was just a political trick to make it seem as if the other person is stalling.
*** The Russian ambassador in real life probably did understand English just fine. He was an ambassador, understanding one of the most-used languages in the world (Japanese sailors had to learn it during [=WW2=] because a lot of their charts and machine manuals were printed in English) would have been necessary for his job. Kirk and [=McCoy=] aren't ambassadors, so in Chang's case it ''was'' purely grandstanding (instead of only partly).
** The TranslationConvention is ambiguous enough that Chang could have been questioning Kirk (and [=McCoy=]) in English while addressing the court in Klingon. The dinner on ''Enterprise'' indicates Chang speaks English and questioning the accused assassins in their native tongue may have been legally apropos.

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** It's a ShoutOut to something said to the [[DirtyCommunists Russian ambassador]] by the [[{{Eagleland}} American ambassador]] a historically famous UN meeting during the UsefulNotes/CubanMissileCrisis. It made as little sense in RealLife as it did in Franchise/StarTrek.
*** Actually, it made a kind of sense if you read
On October 25, 1962, [[{{Eagleland}} American ambassador]] Adlai Stevenson challenged [[DirtyCommunists Russian ambassador]] Valerian A. Zorin to deny the U.S. charge that the Russians had installed offensive-missile bases in Cuba. Stevenson's subtext as, was, "Don't use waiting for the translation as a way to stall for thinking time pretend that you shouldn't need to answer a question that think of an answer, when you should already know the answer to. . . only if I say all that (and all this) I'll have given you exactly what you wanted, a stall for time, so I'll just tell you answer." By telling Zorin to not to wait for the translation translation, and then shut up so you can be shutting up, Stevenson put Zorin on the spot in front of everyone."
everyone. Also, Ambassador Zorin understood English well enough to answer immediately. He was an ambassador, understanding one of the most-used languages in the world (Japanese sailors had to learn it during [=WW2=] because a lot of their charts and machine manuals were printed in English) would have been necessary for his job.
*** Except neither Kirk nor [=McCoy=] speak Klingon, and what we're hearing is TranslationConvention. Why couldn't they use universal translators? They wouldn't even know he said "Don't wait for the translation" until they heard it in English. Same with the Russian ambassador. It was just a political trick to make it seem as if the other person is stalling.
*** The Russian ambassador in real life probably did understand English just fine. He was an ambassador, understanding one of the most-used languages in the world (Japanese sailors had to learn it during [=WW2=] because a lot of their charts and machine manuals were printed in English) would have been necessary for his job.
stalling. Also, Kirk and [=McCoy=] aren't ambassadors, so in Chang's case it ''was'' was purely grandstanding (instead of only partly).
** The TranslationConvention is ambiguous enough that Chang could have been questioning Kirk (and [=McCoy=]) in English while addressing the court in Klingon. The dinner on ''Enterprise'' indicates Chang speaks English and questioning the accused assassins in their native tongue may have been legally apropos.
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*** Also, the ones who retired did so very recently, so they're proably still considered reserve officers.

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*** Also, the ones who retired did so very recently, so they're proably probably still considered reserve officers.
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*** Also, the ones who retired did so very recently, so they're proably still considered reserve officers.
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*** Kirk at least was mentioned by Scotty to have been retired. Being addressed by the rank and bring allowed to wear the uniforms was presumably a courtesy much like retired veterans in the present day.
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** Kirk, Chekov and Scotty absolutely did not retire at the end of this film because they are still wearing uniforms and carry their rank in ''Generations.'' Spock becomes an ambassador who is active until after the Romulan sun explodes and Bones reaches the rank of admiral as we see in ''Encounter at Farpoint.'' As the poster says above, this is the end of the ''Constitution'' line of starships and thus the crew of the ''Enterprise-A.'' It is worth noting as well that long-term assignments lasting decades as we see in ''Star Trek'' really aren't the norm in real life. You get posted somewhere, you do your job, you get posted somewhere else.

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I get the strong feeling we're not supposed to think about it too much, but there are valid questions here. Why in the world was Spock prepared to slap that device on Kirk's back? And how does Kirk know it's there? And why would prisoner Kirk and Bones be expected to wear the exact same clothes forever?

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* I get the strong feeling we're not supposed to think about it too much, but there are valid questions here. Why in the world was Spock prepared to slap that device on Kirk's back? And how does Kirk know it's there? And why would prisoner Kirk and Bones be expected to wear the exact same clothes forever? forever?
** To answer the last question, everyone wears the same clothes as they arrived in when on Rura Penthe. Even Archer did when he was sentenced there. The fact that Kirk is nearly killed for his coat implies that they are issued with exactly one upon arriving. Besides rations and smokes there really doesn't seem to be much of anything else. You are there to mine dilithium, suffer, then die.
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[[folder: Veridium patch part deux... Spock was rather prepared]]
I get the strong feeling we're not supposed to think about it too much, but there are valid questions here. Why in the world was Spock prepared to slap that device on Kirk's back? And how does Kirk know it's there? And why would prisoner Kirk and Bones be expected to wear the exact same clothes forever?
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Valeris is the first Vulcan to graduate top of her class from Starfleet Academy. Based on what we've seen up to this point, Vulcans in Starfleet do seem relatively rare -- about four Vulcan characters onscreen, plus the crew of the ''Intrepid'' (RIP). But the ''Intrepid'' had four hundred crewmembers, so they can't exactly be ''vanishingly'' rare. Nonetheless, Vulcans seem to be friggin brainiacs, and the Academy has clearly been open for a while. (Memory Alpha says it opened in 2140 and has been teaching officers of Starfleet since 2161.) So it raises a question of why none of them have managed to graduate first in their class before, which I think leads to three potential main hypotheses:
* Few Vulcans choose to enroll in Starfleet Academy as a percentage of the population. (Well, it's pretty far from home...)
* There ''are'' few Vulcans by comparison to humans and other Federation member races. (That desert planet doesn't seem like it'd support a lot of people. And some people do believe they only mate every seven years...)
* Vulcans just do worse at Starfleet Academy than other species, for... reasons? (Humans? Or perhaps there's some little-seen brainiac species which is always wrecking the curve)

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* Valeris is the first Vulcan to graduate top of her class from Starfleet Academy. Based on what we've seen up to this point, Vulcans in Starfleet do seem relatively rare -- about four Vulcan characters onscreen, plus the crew of the ''Intrepid'' (RIP). But the ''Intrepid'' had four hundred crewmembers, so they can't exactly be ''vanishingly'' rare. Nonetheless, Vulcans seem to be friggin brainiacs, and the Academy has clearly been open for a while. (Memory Alpha says it opened in 2140 and has been teaching officers of Starfleet since 2161.) So it raises a question of why none of them have managed to graduate first in their class before, which I think leads to three potential main hypotheses:
* ** Few Vulcans choose to enroll in Starfleet Academy as a percentage of the population. (Well, it's pretty far from home...)
* ** There ''are'' few Vulcans by comparison to humans and other Federation member races. (That desert planet doesn't seem like it'd support a lot of people. And some people do believe they only mate every seven years...)
* ** Vulcans just do worse at Starfleet Academy than other species, for... reasons? (Humans? Or perhaps there's some little-seen brainiac species which is always wrecking the curve)
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* Few Vulcans choose to enroll in Starfleet Academy as a percentage of the population
* There ''are'' few Vulcans by comparison to humans and other Federation member races
* Vulcans just do worse at Starfleet Academy than humans, for... reasons?

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* Few Vulcans choose to enroll in Starfleet Academy as a percentage of the population
population. (Well, it's pretty far from home...)
* There ''are'' few Vulcans by comparison to humans and other Federation member races
races. (That desert planet doesn't seem like it'd support a lot of people. And some people do believe they only mate every seven years...)
* Vulcans just do worse at Starfleet Academy than humans, other species, for... reasons?reasons? (Humans? Or perhaps there's some little-seen brainiac species which is always wrecking the curve)
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Valeris is the first Vulcan to graduate top of her class from Starfleet Academy. Based on what we've seen up to this point, Vulcans in Starfleet do seem relatively rare -- about four Vulcan characters onscreen, plus the crew of the ''Intrepid'' (RIP). But the ''Intrepid'' had four hundred crewmembers, so they can't exactly be ''vanishingly'' rare. Nonetheless, Vulcans seem to be friggin brainiacs, and the Academy has clearly been open for a while. (Memory Alpha says it opened in 2140 and has been teaching officers of Starfleet since 2161.) So it raises a question of why none of them have managed to graduate first in their class before, which I think leads to three potential main hypotheses:
* Few Vulcans choose to enroll in Starfleet Academy as a percentage of the population
* There ''are'' few Vulcans by comparison to humans and other Federation member races
* Vulcans just do worse at Starfleet Academy than humans, for... reasons?
Honestly, I can't blame Spock for seeing Valeris as some kind of golden girl who can do no wrong. First Vulcan valedictorian in 130 years! That's kind of a big deal!
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* Star Trek as a Franchise has a bad habit of this; Voyager was said to be 70,000 light years away from Earth (therefore 70 years away at maximum warp), yet space station DS9, on the edge of Federation Space, was said to be 8000 light years away, yet Nog was able to join Starfleet and be promoted to Lieutenent within 3 years.

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* Star Trek as a Franchise has a bad habit of this; Voyager was said to be 70,000 light years away from Earth (therefore 70 years away at maximum warp), yet space station DS9, [=DS9=], on the edge of Federation Space, was said to be 8000 light years away, yet Nog was able to join Starfleet and be promoted to Lieutenent within 3 years.
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*** If you look closely at Uhura's console, you'll notice that one or more screens are displaying the message 'Stand-By.' According to Michael Okuda's text commentary, this was intended to imply that there was some malfunction that was preventing the computer from displaying the translation--requiring them to use books. Apparently "Stand-By" is the Starfleet equivalent of the [=BSOD=].

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*** If you look closely at Uhura's console, you'll notice that one or more screens are displaying the message 'Stand-By.' According to Michael Okuda's text commentary, this was intended to imply that there was some malfunction that was preventing the computer from displaying the translation--requiring them to use books. Apparently "Stand-By" is the Starfleet equivalent of the [=BSOD=].[=BSOD=].
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**** It certainly does. While cloaking prevents weapons fire and shield use due to the immense power draw (Chang's prototype getting around that first limitation somehow) transport is not typically a problem. The power for transport is relatively minimal (barring the one time in IV where the Bird of Prey's power was so weak it could only transport one person at a time with the cloak up) and shields are only a problem because they would block the transporter beam from passing through them just as they do phaser fire which the cloaking screen will not do.
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* Star Trek as a Franchise has a bad habit of this; Voyager was said to be 70,000 light years away from Earth (therefore 70 years away at maximum warp), yet space station DS9, on the edge of Federation Space, was said to be 8000 light years away, yet Nog was able to join Starfleet and be promoted to Lieutenent within 3 years.
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** The Bird of Prey was implied to have been practically right under the Enterprise, to the point where the sensors were reading the energy surge implied to be their cloak as coming from the Enterprise itself. Triangulating the point of fire would be nigh pointless as it would just come back as having come from the Enterprise's position and seemingly confirm they fired. The few meters of difference between the Enterprise's torpedo launcher and the Bird of Prey's would be so minute it probably wouldn't be obvious.
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*** The unusually long hestiation of Kirk just sitting in the chair after the attack before deciding on surrender could be him considering just that. While Kirk could never actually go through with it and he decided to keep the chance for peace, the option to just destroy the ship and be done with the whole thing must have at least crossed his mind as a possibility.
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*** This is one of the only times in the history of ''Star Trek'' that we ever see the gravity fail on-board a starship. Its normally the most reliable system on the ship by far. You can crash a flaming husk into a planet's surface with no lights, no life support, no transporters, no hope of escape... but you will still be sitting comfortably in your seatbelt-less chair. In fact it works so reliably that it was only out on ''Kronos One'' for a few minutes and was restored perfectly soon after. The meta reason for this is budget and SFX limits, but in-universe, is it actually that surprising that Zero-G combat isn't a thing that is trained for? The only reason it worked here is because it was a couple of sucker torpedoes fired by someone with insider knowledge on the ship's design.
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* I think this is the point that we need to give great credit to two amazing Federation inventions: 1) The 24th century medical tricorder (a far more advanced piece of kit than its 23rd century equivalent) and 2) The Emergency Medical Hologram. Because the thing is, it absolutely makes sense that [=McCoy=] wouldn't know the anatomy of a non-Federation citizen to a surgical level because he doesn't deal with Klingons every day and has already filled his head with the intricate details of at least the Vulcans. But if he had had access to a 24th century tricorder, a device capable of real time analysis and step-by-step instructions as to what he needed to do, then he wouldn't have ''needed'' to know an extreme amount regarding Klingon anatomy because everything would have been right there in front of him. And the EMH is far superior to even that, being as it is programmed with all medical knowledge in the known galaxy to an expert level, even seemingly pointless stuff regarding tribal medicine wheels. And unlike with [=McCoy=] there is no accusing the EMH of age, intoxication or racism. This whole conspiracy wouldn't have worked a few decades later because it really does hinge on getting an aged and cantankerous doctor drunk who doesn't have the knowledge or tools at his disposal to do anything meaningful.
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* Why DOES Kirk and crew retire? Generations implies he very much didn't want to, and Relics implies the same for Scotty. It can't be because of age and mandatory retirement, as Sulu is around the same age as them and only recently became a Captain. Chekov is even younger than them, and McCoy would go on to rejoin Starfleet get promoted up to Admiral and still be serving past 120. Kirk is in his early 60s here, which is getting on it years but future medicine keeps people active longer. In TNG Picard is in his 50s when the show starts (which is the age Kirk is when the TOS movies start and he starts feeling "too old to be a Captain") and would remain in Starfleet till his 80s (and only left out of protest, not age). Doesn't really add up.

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* Why DOES Kirk and crew retire? Generations implies he very much didn't want to, and Relics implies the same for Scotty. It can't be because of age and mandatory retirement, as Sulu is around the same age as them and only recently became a Captain. Chekov is even younger than them, and McCoy [=McCoy=] would go on to rejoin Starfleet get promoted up to Admiral and still be serving past 120. Kirk is in his early 60s here, which is getting on it years but future medicine keeps people active longer. In TNG Picard is in his 50s when the show starts (which is the age Kirk is when the TOS movies start and he starts feeling "too old to be a Captain") and would remain in Starfleet till his 80s (and only left out of protest, not age). Doesn't really add up.
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** As above and elsewhere on the pages for this film, leg irons.


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** In a sense it’s the retirement of the Enterprise-A. The main crew simply move onto other assignments, with Kirk retiring and Spock moving on as well. Although this is a case of LeaningOnTheFourthWall as the final TOS cast movie, even though some of the characters show up later in TNG episodes or movies.
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** It could explain those toilet lid covers that don’t allow the lid to stay up if you are standing to use the toilet. They are an alien prank.
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** He didn't. Spock was the one who said to contact Sulu. Earlier in the film, Sulu contacted the ''Enterprise'' and said "we stand ready to assist you." So it was a safe bet that Sulu would be ready with the info they needed. Presumably Sulu his security clearance as captain to find out where the conference was going to be. The peace conference wasn't a secret. It was publicly announced at Kirk and [=McCoy=]'s trial. So I don't imagine it was that hard for Sulu to get.

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** He didn't. Spock was the one who said to contact Sulu. Earlier in the film, Sulu contacted the ''Enterprise'' and said "we stand ready to assist you." So it was a safe bet that Sulu would be ready with the info they needed. Presumably Sulu his has security clearance as captain to find out where the conference was going to be. The peace conference wasn't a secret. It was publicly announced at Kirk and [=McCoy=]'s trial. So I don't imagine it was that hard for Sulu to get.

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** Additionally, Burke and/or Samno might ''be'' the sign-out dudes. That kind of thing (at least on board naval vessels of today) isn't usually a full-time job, with someone sitting around waiting for people to need equipment.
Instead it's a collateral duty for someone. Their department probably has a stash of that stuff and Valeris would've been smart enough to recruit someone with access to it who could falsify or ignore a log.

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*** The more mystery around the conspiracy, the better (for the conspirators.) Plant the boots on a human crewman, and said crewman will probably be questioned, and the conspirators don't know what he might know. Plant them on the web-footed guy, and the mystery will deepen for any investigator, because they would simply figure that questioning him is pointless.



* To this day, one thing that doesn't make sense. Did the Enterprise not have like a quartermaster or at least a sign-out sheet for things like Envrionmental suits or phasers? You're telling me two random yeoman dudes just walked into the locker room or whatever, suited up, grabbed a couple of loaded phasers out of the gun lockers around the ship, and then beamed over and shot Gorkon and no one noticed it or logged the equipment?

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* To this day, one thing that doesn't make sense. Did the Enterprise not have like a quartermaster or at least a sign-out sheet for things like Envrionmental Environmental suits or phasers? You're telling me two random yeoman dudes just walked into the locker room or whatever, suited up, grabbed a couple of loaded phasers out of the gun lockers around the ship, and then beamed over and shot Gorkon and no one noticed it or logged the equipment?


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* Why DOES Kirk and crew retire? Generations implies he very much didn't want to, and Relics implies the same for Scotty. It can't be because of age and mandatory retirement, as Sulu is around the same age as them and only recently became a Captain. Chekov is even younger than them, and McCoy would go on to rejoin Starfleet get promoted up to Admiral and still be serving past 120. Kirk is in his early 60s here, which is getting on it years but future medicine keeps people active longer. In TNG Picard is in his 50s when the show starts (which is the age Kirk is when the TOS movies start and he starts feeling "too old to be a Captain") and would remain in Starfleet till his 80s (and only left out of protest, not age). Doesn't really add up.
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** In the real life context it somewhat made sense. The Ambassador clearly showed himself to know English decently and it was a simple question with a yes or no answer. Did the USSR put missiles in Cuba yes or no? His response which was essentially you'll get your answer at the end of your speech made it clear he was just stalling for time and unwilling to answer. Here it's a bit more confusing as Kirk does not know Klingon and the story is much more complicated than the Cuban situation.
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**** The above theory is confirmed in the novel ''Literature/StarTrekCastNoShadow'', which features Spock talking with Valeris shortly after the launch of the ''Enterprise''-B; Valeris admits that members of the conspiracy had calculated that Kirk would take the chance to attack Gorkon's ship once it was vulnerable, to which Spock simply responds that for Valeris to believe that she clearly never knew him or his now-lost captain.

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