History Headscratchers / StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry

10th May '17 1:12:12 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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** TNG does establish, however, that there are limited sensor resources, even on the ''Enterprise''-D. On a couple of occasions, different departments have competed for use of the same sensor pallets for different projects (the episode "Lessons" has an example of this, if I remember correctly). Spock was probably looking for a more mundane--insomuch as a Trek-style NegativeSpaceWedgie can be described as "mundane"--explanation for the odd emissions, and had configured the sensors to track and identify spacial phenomena. That would mean that there would be far less raw data about the torpedo launches to analyze later than there would be if the sensors were in a tactical configuration. The less data there is, the easier it would be to edit that data to obscure the trajectory of the torpedoes when Valeris and her confederates tampered with the logs. It was pretty crazy on the bridge after the attack on ''Qo'noS One'', maybe if everyone was less distracted, someone would have noticed that the torpedoes' flight path didn't make sense, but in the heat of the moment everyone was looking for a different explanation, so nobody thought to look at the data that would have led them to the right answer until it was gone.

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** TNG does establish, however, that there are limited sensor resources, even on the ''Enterprise''-D. On a couple of occasions, different departments have competed for use of the same sensor pallets for different projects (the episode "Lessons" has an example of this, if I remember correctly). Spock was probably looking for a more mundane--insomuch as a Trek-style NegativeSpaceWedgie can be described as "mundane"--explanation for the odd emissions, and had configured the sensors to track and identify spacial phenomena. That would mean that there would be far less raw data about the torpedo launches to analyze later than there would be if the sensors were in a tactical configuration. The less data there is, the easier it would be to edit that data to obscure the trajectory of the torpedoes when Valeris and her confederates tampered with the logs. It was pretty crazy on the bridge after the attack on ''Qo'noS One'', maybe if everyone was less distracted, someone would have noticed that the torpedoes' flight path paths didn't make sense, but in the heat of the moment everyone was looking for a different explanation, so nobody thought to look at the data that would have led them to the right answer until it was gone.
10th May '17 1:11:26 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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** TNG does establish, however, that there are limited sensor resources, even on the ''Enterprise''-D. On a couple of occasions, different departments have competed for use of the same sensor pallets for different projects (the episode "Lessons" has an example of this, if I remember correctly). Spock was probably looking for a more mundane--insomuch as a Trek-style NegativeSpaceWedgie can be described as "mundane"--explanation for the odd emissions, and had configured the sensors to track and identify spacial phenomena. That would mean that there would be far less raw data about the torpedo launches to analyze later than there would be if the sensors were in a tactical configuration. The less data there is, the easier it would be to edit that data to obscure the trajectory of the torpedoes when Valeris and her confederates tampered with the logs. It was pretty crazy on the bridge after the attack on ''Qo'noS One'', maybe if everyone was less distracted, someone would have noticed that the torpedoes' flight path didn't make sense, but in the heat of the moment everyone was looking for a different explanation, so nobody looked at the data that would have led them to the right answer until it was gone.

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** TNG does establish, however, that there are limited sensor resources, even on the ''Enterprise''-D. On a couple of occasions, different departments have competed for use of the same sensor pallets for different projects (the episode "Lessons" has an example of this, if I remember correctly). Spock was probably looking for a more mundane--insomuch as a Trek-style NegativeSpaceWedgie can be described as "mundane"--explanation for the odd emissions, and had configured the sensors to track and identify spacial phenomena. That would mean that there would be far less raw data about the torpedo launches to analyze later than there would be if the sensors were in a tactical configuration. The less data there is, the easier it would be to edit that data to obscure the trajectory of the torpedoes when Valeris and her confederates tampered with the logs. It was pretty crazy on the bridge after the attack on ''Qo'noS One'', maybe if everyone was less distracted, someone would have noticed that the torpedoes' flight path didn't make sense, but in the heat of the moment everyone was looking for a different explanation, so nobody looked thought to look at the data that would have led them to the right answer until it was gone.
10th May '17 1:10:15 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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** TNG does establish, however, that there are limited sensor resources, even on the ''Enterprise''-D. On a couple of occasions, different departments have competed for use of the same sensor pallets for different projects (the episode "Lessons" has an example of this, if I remember correctly). Spock was probably looking for a more mundane--insomuch as Trek's signature NegativeSpaceWedgies can be described as "mundane"--explanation for the odd emissions, and had configured the sensors to track and identify spacial phenomena. That would mean that there would be far less raw data about the torpedo launches to analyze later than there would be if the sensors were in a tactical configuration. The less data there is, the easier it would be to edit that data to obscure the trajectory of the torpedoes when Valeris and her confederates tampered with the logs. It was pretty crazy on the bridge after the attack on ''Qo'noS One'', maybe if everyone was less distracted, someone would have noticed that the torpedoes' flight path didn't make sense, but in the heat of the moment everyone was looking for a different explanation, so nobody looked at the data that would have led them to the right answer until it was gone.

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** TNG does establish, however, that there are limited sensor resources, even on the ''Enterprise''-D. On a couple of occasions, different departments have competed for use of the same sensor pallets for different projects (the episode "Lessons" has an example of this, if I remember correctly). Spock was probably looking for a more mundane--insomuch as Trek's signature NegativeSpaceWedgies a Trek-style NegativeSpaceWedgie can be described as "mundane"--explanation for the odd emissions, and had configured the sensors to track and identify spacial phenomena. That would mean that there would be far less raw data about the torpedo launches to analyze later than there would be if the sensors were in a tactical configuration. The less data there is, the easier it would be to edit that data to obscure the trajectory of the torpedoes when Valeris and her confederates tampered with the logs. It was pretty crazy on the bridge after the attack on ''Qo'noS One'', maybe if everyone was less distracted, someone would have noticed that the torpedoes' flight path didn't make sense, but in the heat of the moment everyone was looking for a different explanation, so nobody looked at the data that would have led them to the right answer until it was gone.
10th May '17 1:09:08 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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** TNG does establish, however, that there are limited sensor resources, even on the ''Enterprise''-D. On a couple of occasions, different departments have competed for use of the same sensor pallets for different projects (the episode "Lessons" has an example of this, if I remember correctly). Spock was probably looking for a more mundane--insomuch as Trek's signature NegativeSpaceWedgies can be described as "mundane"--explanation for the odd emissions, and had configured the sensors to track and identify spacial phenomena. That would mean that there would be far less raw data about the torpedo launches to analyze later than there would be if the sensors were in a tactical configuration. The less data there is, the easier it would be to edit that data to obscure the trajectory of the torpedoes when Valeris and her confederates tampered with the logs. It was pretty crazy on the bridge after the attack on ''Qo'noS One'', maybe if everyone was less distracted, someone would have noticed that the torpedoes' flight path didn't make sense, but in the heat of the moment everyone was looking for a different explanation, so nobody looked at the data that would have led them to the right answer until it was gone.
7th May '17 10:02:07 AM CrypticMirror
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*** There is plenty of time between TOS and TNG for Star Fleet to reactivate any old Constitutions they had mothballed for specialist reasons, museum ships, or training vessels. With Wolf 359 in particular they were scrambling to put ''anything'' in between the Borg and Earth, so if they had a Constitution class in any sort of warp capable condition then it would be in the 359 Fleet (and probably one of its first casualties too). We have been shown in Unification that Starfleet basically never throws a ship away after decommissioning, just permanently mothballs them in space-boneyards, so if they need one for whatever reason then they have it on hand.
7th May '17 4:55:17 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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*** Well, naval vessels, especially capital ships, can often be an exception because they represent a much bigger investment than any other military equipment. The USS ''Lexington'' (CV-16), for example, was in service for nearly twenty years after most of her sister ships were decommissioned. There's also some pretty solid canonical evidence that at least one, possibly even two, ''Constitution''-class ships fought 79 years later at the Battle of Wolf 359 (indeed, the wrecked model of the ''Enterprise'' from ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'' appeared on-screen in the debris field).

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*** Well, naval vessels, especially capital ships, can often be an exception because they represent a much bigger investment than any other military equipment. The USS ''Lexington'' (CV-16), for example, was in service for nearly twenty years after most of her sister ships were decommissioned. There's also some pretty solid canonical evidence that at least one, possibly even two, ''Constitution''-class ships fought 79 years later at the Battle of Wolf 359 359, 79 years after ''Enterprise''-A was mothballed (indeed, the wrecked model of the ''Enterprise'' from ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'' appeared on-screen in the debris field).
7th May '17 4:51:46 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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*** Well, naval vessels, especially capital ships, can often be an exception because they represent a much bigger investment than any other military equipment. The USS ''Lexington'' (CV-16), for example, was in service for nearly twenty years after most of her sister ships were decommissioned. There's also some pretty solid canonical evidence that at least one, possibly even two, ''Constitution''-class ships fought 79 years later at the Battle of Wolf 359 (indeed, the wrecked model of the ''Enterprise'' from ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'' appeared on-screen in the debris field).
22nd Apr '17 7:36:48 AM CrypticMirror
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*** It might also have been the case that with the Federation doing something highly provoking to the Klingons that they wanted to make sure the Romulans knew that it wasn't going to be a plot aimed at them too. The Romulans have been occasional Klingon allies and their area of space if very close to the Klingons, they want to make the Romulans feel secure that it won't involve them. America has been known to tip off Russia and China to actions near their borders just make sure things don't escalate unnecessarily. There might even have been a request to use Romulan assets such as cloaked vessels for insertion/retrieval or information from Romulan espionage sources. Any of those would give legitimate political reasons for the Ambassador to unofficially sit in on a meeting. Obviously it is all a ruse and the Ambassador is in on the conspiracy to start a war not avoid one, but the people planning the mission are the same ones planning the conspiracy which means they can tailor the mission so as to involve the ambassador and anyone else they need.
21st Apr '17 12:39:23 PM dangerdan97
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**** [[Recap/StarTrekS1E10TheCorbomiteManeuver Going by production order]], the very first mentioned use of a hand phaser in ''Trek'' is for making coffee (offscreen) in the galley. Yeoman Rand does this during a tense standoff when the ship is on high alert, too.
8th Apr '17 5:27:53 PM thespecialneedsgroup
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*** The ambassador's presence at the mission briefing, at least, might make sense if the Empire and the Federation had worked out a deal to liberate some unseen Romulan prisoners when the Starfleet task force rescued Kirk and [=McCoy=]. That would give the Romulans a big enough stake in the mission to sit in on what seemed to be, at best, a very broad-strokes briefing that didn't really include much in the way of sensitive operational details.
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