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9th Jul '17 11:24:15 AM thatsnumberwang
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** Yes and no. Remember that Lakul-Soran was actually nothing more than a bad-tempered yet as of then innocent refugee fleeing the Borg. In many ways it can be argued that this is a happy ending for the character as he is a man who witnessed unimaginable horrors and yet got back everything that he ever lost and loved. That is the optimistic interpretation though, for if time has no meaning in the Nexus, then potentially at least some part of the Soran that successfully destroyed Veridian to gain entrance managed to stay in there after Picard and Kirk changed the timeline; making him one of the most successful Star Trek villains of all time in terms of lasting consequences. Not only did half of him win, but he ''permanently'' destroyed the Enterprise and killed Kirk, which arguably puts him ahead of Khan.
9th Jul '17 10:38:08 AM thatsnumberwang
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*** The danger presented by the Nexus absolutely fails show don't tell. He gets in the first time whilst in a primitive El-Aurian refugee ship that survived long enough for the Enterprise to receive the distress call, long enough for it to get there, and long enough to figure out a way to beam some of them out; a period of time that must have been a good solid few minutes at least. The film wants us to believe a certain thing is true (that you can't fly your ship into it) whilst wanting us to believe that he did so the first time perfectly fine. And as we see with Kirk, the ''Nexus lightning'' that is taking chunks out of these ships is actually completely harmless. Yes it destroyed a good chunk of the Enterprise-B's secondary hull, but Kirk was transported into the Nexus without any injury whatsoever despite standing at ground zero. For all we know from this visual evidence, everyone blown up that day in a similar manner made it.
27th Jun '17 10:30:00 AM Bense
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* How does Picard know that he's not still in the Nexus at the end of the film? His ultimate desire was stopping Soran, and then going on to continue to have adventures as Captain of the ''Enterprise'', and that's exactly what happened in this and the following movies. How does he know the Nexus isn't just giving him what he ''really'' wanted all along?
27th Jun '17 10:23:36 AM Bense
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[[folder: Did Soran Win?]]
* The Nexus doesn't seem to operate within time. Picard finds that Guinan is still in the Nexus, at least as what she describes as an "echo". Does this mean that Soran is, at least in some form, still in there too, and therefore he actually got what he wanted?
11th Jun '17 12:58:19 PM NewVirginiaCreeper
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** Clearly the Nexus's ability to grant ultimate fantasies is exaggerated. Heck, both Picard and Kirk leave theirs with relatively little fuss -- how great can this Nexus be? Maybe it works better on El-Aurians.

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** Clearly the Nexus's ability to grant ultimate fantasies is exaggerated. "Being inside joy," my eye. Heck, both Picard and Kirk leave theirs with relatively little fuss -- how great can this Nexus be? Maybe it works better on El-Aurians.
7th Jun '17 10:47:56 AM NewVirginiaCreeper
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** Clearly the Nexus's ability to grant ultimate fantasies is exaggerated. Heck, both Picard and Kirk leave theirs with relatively little fuss -- how great can this Nexus be? Maybe it works better on El-Aurians.
22nd May '17 3:21:35 PM costanton11
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** Perhaps the implication is that Picard was beamed down by the Bird of Prey and the blue transporter beam was just a special effects error.
19th Feb '17 5:55:16 PM thespecialneedsgroup
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*** In a naval rank structure a "junior officer" is any officer below the rank of commander. Tradition allows junior officers to be addressed by the honorific "Mister," while requiring senior officers be addressed by their full rank. Mr. Data holds a senior position on ''Enterprise's'' command staff, but he ''is'' a junior officer.

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*** In a naval rank structure structure, a "junior officer" is any officer below the rank of commander. Tradition allows junior officers to be addressed by the honorific "Mister," while requiring senior officers be addressed by their full rank. Mr. Data holds a senior position on ''Enterprise's'' command staff, but he ''is'' a junior officer.
19th Feb '17 5:54:41 PM thespecialneedsgroup
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**** In a naval rank structure a "junior officer" is any officer below the rank of commander. Tradition allows junior officers to be addressed by the honorific "Mister," while requiring senior officers be addressed by their full rank. Mr. Data holds a senior position on ''Enterprise's'' command staff, but he ''is'' a junior officer.
19th Feb '17 5:07:22 PM thatsnumberwang
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* During the scene where they swap Picard for Geordi, where does Picard beam to? The Bird of Prey or the planet? I always assumed that he went to the BoP given how someone removes his commbadge, but Picard is clearly using a Federation blue transporter beam when he appears on the planet instead of a red klingon transporter beam, implying that the Enterprise now knows exactly where on the planet Soran is. What's with the worry about where the probe is going to be launched from? Why not give Picard thirty minutes to negotiate with Soran and then send down an armed security team? It clearly takes longer than that for Geordi to return to engineering given how he finds time for a bath.

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* During the scene where they swap Picard for Geordi, where does Picard beam to? The Bird of Prey or the planet? I always assumed that he went to the BoP Bird of Prey given how someone removes his commbadge, but Picard is clearly using a Federation blue transporter beam when he appears on the planet instead of a red klingon transporter beam, implying that the Enterprise now knows exactly where on the planet Soran is. What's with the worry about where the probe is going to be launched from? Why not give Picard thirty minutes to negotiate with Soran and then send down an armed security team? It clearly takes longer than that for Geordi to return to engineering given how he finds time for a bath.
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