History Headscratchers / SpongeBobSquarepants

15th Dec '17 12:25:02 PM CelestialDraco
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* Why are people still labeling Mr. Krabs as some money grubbing {{Designated Hero}} and Plankton as a {{Woobie}} when the characters have all been [[CharacterRerailment returned to how they use to be]] starting in mid season 9?
** Probably because they hadn't actually watched those episodes at all.
*** That makes sense. Considering the largely negative response to some of the more [[DethroningMomentOfSuck bad]] episodes, some people may refuse to watch any new episodes at all. Or maybe they just don't notice that some modern episodes aren't that bad.
9th Dec '17 11:17:48 AM sugaricequeen
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*** Do instruments of torture count?
27th Nov '17 11:19:28 AM Crocket_Lawnchair
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** I always thought his parents were cookies...
17th Nov '17 12:52:31 PM RoarkTenjouin
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** Every restaurant has it's own secret menu - while most of his terms likely do come from real-world lexicon, odds are that there's a few ones that the writers threw in to make the Krusty Krab more unique.



** Also even without Spongebob he drops the ball a lot by himself, either by having a convoluted plan failling at the part where he shows himself to Krabs or changing life with Krabs only for crumbling under the insanity.

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** Also even without Spongebob he drops the ball a lot by himself, either by having a convoluted plan failling failing at the part where he shows himself to Krabs or changing life with Krabs only for crumbling under the insanity.




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*** I'd imagine that he leaves that responsibility to Pearl, since she doesn't seem to have the same qualms he has about spending money.




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** It was at night, and the Krusty Krab isn't exactly in the best of shape. It could be that there's lights on the outside that would normally illuminate the outer walls that weren't working properly, and they just so happened to make his nostrils glow red.




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** There's also the fact that Plankton never goes to the Krusty Krab as a customer.
10th Nov '17 10:37:34 PM RoarkTenjouin
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*** Actually, there have been other restaurants shown or mentioned, but never in detail (that fancy restaurant, those restaurants that keep on stealing Spongebob from one another in that one episode). It's likely that either Spongebob isn't a member of the union, or Mr Krabs used to have working conditions that were so bad that they make the ones his employees currently have generous by comparison.
10th Nov '17 10:08:23 PM RoarkTenjouin
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** There's been a few episodes where he's had to deliver the food to a table. I would imagine that he dresses formally just in case, since I don't think it would look good on the Krusty Krab if someone in a dirty fry cook's uniform was in charge of bringing orders to tables. A better question would be why Spongebob doesn't wear an apron.



*** Actually, that's not true - unless Spongebob was cursed to have a splinter in every arm he grows in the future, or he was sick with a virus that prevented him from regrowing the arm (thus preventing him from ripping it off), he should've been able to simply rip off the arm in question and deal with the splinter a few seconds after getting it.




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** My personal theory is that Mr. Krabs remembered the events of the show's pilot, ''Help Wanted'' - where the restaurant got flooded by hungry anchovies when deciding where to put the restaurant. He figured that if another event like that happened, if he placed it somewhere else, any hungry customers he couldn't serve would likely take their business (and their money) elsewhere if they had to drive far enough away, whereas if they only had to walk next door, they'd likely just go to the other Krusty Krab.




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** For the same reason you don't shave the fur of your pets when they get fleas. It would've been overkill.



** That and art supplies can get pretty expensive and success mostly depends on whether or not one is hired by a larger company or works independently. Likewise, Squidward is shown to be an artist but, for some odd reason, no one likes his paintings and the fact that some might no buy them, so he has to be work as a cashier.

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** That and art supplies can get pretty expensive and success mostly depends on whether or not one is hired by a larger company or works independently. Likewise, Squidward is shown to be an artist but, for some odd reason, no one likes his paintings and the fact that some might no not buy them, so he has to be work as a cashier.




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** It said "We shall not deny a guest even the most ridiculous request". It didn't say that they wouldn't do so at a higher than normal price.










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** He probably figured that Mr Krabs would insist he take more time off if he went straight to the hospital as opposed to just going home after showing up sick.



** Business standpoint in the sense of, while he cares for Spongebob, it wouldn't make a lot of sense (along with that not being a good use of hsi time) to call for a taxi to take Spongebob home or a hospital, especially when Spongebob shouldn't have come to work in the first place, along with the fact that Krabs is tightwad

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** Business standpoint in the sense of, while he cares for Spongebob, it wouldn't make a lot of sense (along with that not being a good use of hsi his time) to call for a taxi to take Spongebob home or a hospital, especially when Spongebob shouldn't have come to work in the first place, along with the fact that Krabs is tightwad
** It's likely that he knew that while the Suds would take Spongebob away from work for a few days, it wasn't a serious condition, and the fact that he's a tightwad likely explains why he didn't just call a taxi. A better question would be why he didn't drive Spongebob there himself, since he is shown to own a car at several points.




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** In ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongebobSquarepantsMovie'' (which, if I recall correctly, takes place after said episode), he's shown to only have a bunch of the same outfit in his closet. While we can assume that he might have clothes for other seasons put away, he doesn't




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** [[spoiler: Spongebob didn't always work for the Krusty Krab, so it's likely that Plankton was throwing card games from before then. As for the first dime, Krabs is very greedy. He'd likely take any form of money as long as it's valid somewhere]].




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*** Mr. Krabs is a sailor, so if there ''is'' a profane meaning to "Barnacle", it might not be as big of a deal to him as the swear words only a sailor would know.




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** Because there's no character page for Spongebob himself in the same vein as, oh say [[Manga/DragonBall Vegeta]], regular or self-demonstrating, and in the cases you mentioned, they've been around for so long and had so many different incarnations. Spongebob has had relatively few in comparison.




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** It's never stated that those bombs are used for warfare. Assuming that there are construction and mining industries in Bikini Bottom, the bombs are likely used for those.




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** He'd also need Spongebob to back him up on those claims, since if he made them himself, Mr Krabs could claim he's lying - and since Spongebob loves to work there, that's not going to happen.







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** Spongebob never told him that all Gary would need to feel better was water - he takes ''very'' good care of Gary, so he likely never had to deal with the situation that would lead to him learning that kind of knowledge.




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*** In the long run, it likely would earn him more money, but in the short run, it would be a loss, and as Mr. Krabs has demonstrated in episodes like Jellyfish Hunter, he doesn't exactly take the long run into consideration (as he likely would've made Spongebob focus on increasing Jellyfish populations as opposed to capturing all the Jellyfish in the aforementioned episode).




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**** His first dime was a giant rock, something he very likely knows he ''can't'' spend anywhere. It could be that he's a collector, and views each coin/bill as unique (plus, we never see customers paying with checks or credit/debt cards).


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7th Nov '17 11:49:40 AM MsCC93
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* Why does this show keep "[[VideoGame/{{Eversion}} eversing]]"? SugarBowl one second, creepy show with realistic-like animation the next. Look, it looks cheerful but in the western animation NightmareFuel page, the show ''has its own page''. Are the writers huge dicks to be doing this so much?
** Maybe it's a misguided attempt to keep ''[=SpongeBob=]'' popular by making it the new ''[[WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow Ren and Stimpy]]'' (the first big hit Nicktoon). As stated in Main/GrossOutShow: The grossness was '''not''' what made ''Ren and Stimpy'' successful! It's a shame not even Nickelodeon realizes that.
** It's not like the first three seasons were totally devoid of scary moments, though.
*** True, but when you really look the old episodes, it's astounding how much it's changed. Many earlier episodes were not only far more gentle and relaxed with feelgood humour, they also had tearjerking moments that tugged at the heartstrings, for example SpongeBob saying goodbye to his original pineapple in "Home Sweet Pineapple", the beautiful musical number in "Welcome To The Chum Bucket" and the "Remembering SpongeBob" sequence from the Lost Episode. The new episodes, in comparison, are bizarrely different, with the traits every character taken to negative extremes, painfully sadistic humour and an overabundance of episodes with disturbing and sometimes offensive plotlines. If you compare an episode like "Pizza Delivery" with "A Pal For Gary" or "Squidville" with "Face Freeze", the episodes are so different in tone that it's really creepy.



* Why did Spongebob still [[{{MoralEventHorizon}} scold Gary for being mean to Puffy Fluffy]] , when he was eating Gary RIGHT IN [[{{PrecisionFStrike}} FUCKING]] FRONT OF HIM?!! Even though Spongebob [[{{Flanderization}} became an r-tard]] in [[{{SeasonalRot}} post-movie seasons]], he still cares about Gary(like [[{{TearJerker}} "Have You Seen This Snail?"]]).



* Why does [=SpongeBob=] keep forgiving the overly stupid Patrick Star when he screws up his life? Patrick is a trademark poisonous friend, as much as [=SpongeBob=] is to Squidward. So why in hell does [=SpongeBob=] have to learn to tolerate him?
** Because [=SpongeBob=] is an idiot. Not as retarded and brainless as Patrick, but an idiot nonetheless.
*** [=SpongeBob=] is also a very kind, forgiving sponge. And look at all Pat has done for him!
** I've often wondered this myself, as a good number of the stuff in earlier episodes that [=SpongeBob=] gets blamed for are really Patrick's fault.
*** It at least seems to be reversed the odd occasion, in "Porous Pockets" for example Patrick rather [[EasilyForgiven quickly forgives]] [=SpongeBob=] for acting like a snobbish JerkAss.
*** Maybe, in a deep part of his mind, Patrick realizes how much of a bother, if not an annoying or even outright dangerous, ''friend'' he is to SpongeBob and forgave him so quickly because he inwardly feels guilty about causing him so much trouble only to be forgiven time and again by SpongeBob?

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* Why does [=SpongeBob=] keep forgiving the overly stupid Patrick Star when he screws up his life? Patrick is a trademark poisonous friend, as much as [=SpongeBob=] is to Squidward. So why in hell does [=SpongeBob=] have to learn to tolerate him?
** Because [=SpongeBob=] is an idiot. Not as retarded and brainless as Patrick, but an idiot nonetheless.
*** [=SpongeBob=] is also a very kind, forgiving sponge. And look at all Pat has done for him!
** I've often wondered this myself, as a good number of the stuff in earlier episodes that [=SpongeBob=] gets blamed for are really Patrick's fault.
*** It at least seems to be reversed the odd occasion, in "Porous Pockets" for example Patrick rather [[EasilyForgiven quickly forgives]] [=SpongeBob=] for acting like a snobbish JerkAss.
*** Maybe, in a deep part of his mind, Patrick realizes how much of a bother, if not an annoying or even outright dangerous, ''friend'' he is to SpongeBob and forgave him so quickly because he inwardly feels guilty about causing him so much trouble only to be forgiven time and again by SpongeBob?






* Why can't plankton just get a note pad and copy down the formula? Mr.Krabs won't know.



* How come Pearl now hates [=SpongeBob=]? They interacted pretty well in "Bossy Boots" but in "Slumber Party" and "Tunnel of Glove" she just plain hates him?
** It was a girls-only sleepover in "Slumber Party", IIRC, which explains (but doesn't totally excuse) her behavior there...as for "Tunnel of Glove", I haven't seen that one, but I'm going to say she was going through a fit of teenage angst at the time.
** "The Chaperone" was also an episode where they interacted pretty well. I guess we can chalk this up to {{Flanderization}}
** They were also really chummy in "Bossy Boots," the episode where Pearl starts working at the Krusty Krab.

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* How come Pearl now hates [=SpongeBob=]? They interacted pretty well in "Bossy Boots" but in "Slumber Party" and "Tunnel of Glove" she just plain hates him?
** It was a girls-only sleepover in "Slumber Party", IIRC, which explains (but doesn't totally excuse) her behavior there...as for "Tunnel of Glove", I haven't seen that one, but I'm going to say she was going through a fit of teenage angst at the time.
** "The Chaperone" was also an episode where they interacted pretty well. I guess we can chalk this up to {{Flanderization}}
** They were also really chummy in "Bossy Boots," the episode where Pearl starts working at the Krusty Krab.






* Anyone notice that the Post Movie episodes seem to give Squidward more ThrowTheDogABone moments than in the Pre Movie episodes? Just look at the TTDAB page to see what I'm talking about.
** So? Everything I've read here seems to add up to him ''deserving'' more ThrowTheDogABone moments.
** Yeah, back then he got what he deserved because he was a {{Jerkass}}. Now he's basically TheWoobie so he pretty much needs ThrowTheDogABone moments.












* The level of hatred Bikini Bottom's citizenry displays for the main characters (Spongebob, Squidward, Mr. Krabs, Patrick, Sandy, Plankton) is insane. It goes [[UpToEleven all the way Up to thirteen]] Why are they so hated?
** Well it may be because of their [[{{Flanderization}} flanderizations]].
*** Spongebob: He really annoys other people and gets others injured and ruins things for them (mainly Squidward and Mrs. Puff) and he rarely feels remorse for his actions.
*** Patrick: He acts like a [[{{Jerkass}} jerkass]] at times, even ''Spongebob'' gets annoyed by him sometimes.
*** Mr. Krabs: His greed is a constant theme any time he appears in an episode. He has no qualms about choosing money over his employees, Pearl, or anyone. He wrangled someone's arm over a ''penny.''
*** Sandy: Her [[{{Pride}} pride]] gets her in a lot of trouble at times (ex. "Pressure" and "Sandy, Spongebob, and The Worm").
*** Also it's been shown in a few episodes that Bikini Bottom has a lot of prejudice against squirrels.
*** Squidward: He sometimes acts like a jerkass to Spongebob and a few others even though he is unprovoked.
*** Plus he hates pretty much everyone else already.
*** Plankton: I guess people hate him after his "Plan Z" from TheMovie.
*** You mean the movie that is one of the few "episodes" that have a solid place in canon? In this case, last.
*** Well...maybe all of us viewers probably hate him!



* Why haven't they redone the intro? At least reanimate it? It still has the same old traditional animation style of the first season, which is at a stark contrast with the current animation.
** TV shows tend to keep they're intros regardless of ArtShift, so its not necessary. Although if you're desperate for a change, I'd suggest taking a second look at "Truth or Square".
** Nostalgia.






* Why did Squidward rip up the valentine Spongebob gave him? Even for him that was just pretty rude.
** It's because Squidward ''does not like SpongeBob'' at all. SpongeBob can't get it through his thick skull that Squidward doesn't want anything to do with him. Also, Squidward can unnecessarily be a jerk sometimes.



* There are certain episodes in which Spongebob will suddenly act like a total dick, and will snap right back to his sweet personality in the next episode. It isn't just a new thing, either- "Employee of the Month" and "As Seen On TV" had him acting like an arrogant prick, and he purposefully made Patrick ''burn his hand on a stove'' in "Big Pink Loser." He nearly killed Gary in "The Great Snail Race" just to one-up Squidward, despite caring for Gary lovingly in ''every other episode'', and he was a real dick to Patrick in "The Fry Cook Games." Patrick may have been a bit InnocentlyInsensitive, but flat-out insulting the guy was pretty uncalled for. So... what's with this inconsistency of character? Spongebob is well-known to be a really nice, good-natured dude, but he's been a huge asshole in many episodes.
** Just like sometimes it's good for [[AffablyEvil the antagonist to have positive traits]], having a protagonist with a visibly (if not inconsistently) flawed personality can be good for unpredictability and, hell, sometimes [[RuleOfFunny it's just funny.]] Plus, in many of those instances, [=SpongeBob=] was provoked or had another somewhat justifiable/understandable reason for what he did:\\

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* There are certain episodes in which Spongebob will suddenly act like a total dick, and will snap right back to his sweet personality in the next episode. It isn't just a new thing, either- "Employee of the Month" and "As Seen On TV" had him acting like an arrogant prick, and he purposefully made Patrick ''burn his hand on a stove'' in "Big Pink Loser." He nearly killed Gary in "The Great Snail Race" just to one-up Squidward, despite caring for Gary lovingly in ''every other episode'', and he was a real dick to Patrick in "The Fry Cook Games." Patrick may have If Sandy is so smart (she's been a bit InnocentlyInsensitive, but flat-out insulting the guy was pretty uncalled for. So... what's with this inconsistency of character? Spongebob is well-known shown on numerous occasions to be a really nice, good-natured dude, but he's been a huge asshole in many episodes.
** Just like sometimes it's good for [[AffablyEvil the antagonist to have positive traits]], having a protagonist with a visibly (if
borderline scientific genius), how did she not inconsistently) flawed personality can be good for unpredictability and, hell, sometimes [[RuleOfFunny it's just funny.]] Plus, realize that a '''''sea sponge''''' can't survive in many of those instances, an arid, water-less environment (episode "Tea At The Treedome")? Even after [=SpongeBob=] showed obvious signs of dehydration, she was provoked or had another somewhat justifiable/understandable reason for what he did:\\apparently still oblivious to the fact that he's a water animal, not an amphibian.
** This was before the writers decided to turn Sandy into a scientist.



He takes immense pride in his abilities as a fry cook and is used to winning Employee of the Month, so when his ego is threatened by Squidward, he responds aggressively. "As Seen On TV" is the archetypical "false sense of fame going to a character's head" plot (plus, once again, it involves his job, which he probably feels he should be famous for-- and he may have a point). In "Big Pink Loser", the stove incident was just [=SpongeBob=] trying to prove a point to Patrick, since the latter was being annoying and unreasonable, and he just went too far with his [[DrillSergeantNasty drill-sergeant nasty]] attitude in "The Great Snail Race," which is also a common plot.\\
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"The Fry Cook Games" may have the best case for justifying [=SpongeBob=]'s insensitivity; [[BerserkButton Patrick undermined [=SpongeBob=]'s job as a fry cook]] (which, again, he takes extremely seriously), and [=SpongeBob=] did have kind of a good point-- before that episode, Patrick tried to work at the Krusty Krab and literally couldn't do anything right except open a pickle jar (and he struggled with that, needing [=SpongeBob=]'s help to do it), but had the nerve to say that being a fry cook is easy. Plus, [=SpongeBob=] was being manipulated by Mr. Krabs.\\
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Lastly, you could probably count many more instances of times during which [=SpongeBob=] should have lost his shit and murdered Patrick, Squidward, Plankton, or Mr. Krabs, but actually did something nice in response to their {{jerkass}} actions, or simply forgave them. For the love of Poseidon, Mr. Krabs '''''sold [=SpongeBob's=] soul to the underwater version of {{Satan}} for 62 FUCKING CENTS''''' (and, what some might not consider, he probably only felt remorseful because [=SpongeBob=] is the best fry cook in Bikini Bottom, and makes Krabs a lot of money by working for him). In return, [=SpongeBob=] basically told him "No worries, bro-- it's cool." He might be sporadically mean-spirited, but those moments are largely outweighed by instances of [=SpongeBob=] being far nicer than any sentient creature (who gets treated like he does) should be.\\
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All in all, [=SpongeBob=] is a character who's definitely nice, friendly, and all-around good-natured at heart, but he's not [[MartyStu perfect]], which explains his seemingly random asshole-ish actions, and which is also probably a good thing for the character and the show.
* If Sandy is so smart (she's been shown on numerous occasions to be a borderline scientific genius), how did she not realize that a '''''sea sponge''''' can't survive in an arid, water-less environment (episode "Tea At The Treedome")? Even after [=SpongeBob=] showed obvious signs of dehydration, she was apparently still oblivious to the fact that he's a water animal, not an amphibian.
** This was before the writers decided to turn Sandy into a scientist.
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* I don't want to sound rude, but why do people on this site take this show so seriously? I mean, seriously, people on this site argue about and debate this show like film studies professors argue about ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey''. Why?
** I believe a part of it may have to do with the show's humor, as for a time it really was at an all-time low - episodes were written and aired that seemed too gross or mean-spirited for kids to watch (and even for adults to watch, either), so people have come to nitpick over the entire show in this regard, failing to realize that the earlier seasons had ''little'' moments like these, and that all of them were a part of the show's original charm and humor. I've heard that the newest season seems to be trying revert to the state of the show's roots, and I actually did see the last few minutes of an episode where Mr. Krabs is trying to teach Spongebob how to drive a boatmobile. He even gets a ticket, and doesn't try to weasel his way out of it or pin it on Spongebob - that's something the Flanderized Mr. Krabs would never have been known to do.






* Why are people still labeling Mr. Krabs as some money grubbing {{Designated Hero}} and Plankton as a {{Woobie}} when the characters have all been [[CharacterRerailment returned to how they use to be]] starting in mid season 9?
** Probably because they hadn't actually watched those episodes at all.
*** That makes sense. Considering the largely negative response to some of the more [[DethroningMomentOfSuck bad]] episodes, some people may refuse to watch any new episodes at all. Or maybe they just don't notice that some modern episodes aren't that bad.

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* Why are people still labeling Mr. Krabs as some money grubbing {{Designated Hero}} and Plankton as a {{Woobie}} when the characters have all been [[CharacterRerailment returned to how they use to be]] starting in mid season 9? \n** Probably because they hadn't actually watched those episodes at all.\n*** That makes sense. Considering the largely negative response to some of the more [[DethroningMomentOfSuck bad]] episodes, some people may refuse to watch any new episodes at all. Or maybe they just don't notice that some modern episodes aren't that bad.\n
3rd Nov '17 3:06:46 PM abcdef-no
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** Fridge Brillance: If SpongeBob were to regrow his arm, all the subsequent arms would have a splinter on them.
29th Oct '17 10:45:09 PM pgj1997
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** NO, I AM NOT FINISHED WITH THOSE ERRANDS AND I NEVER WILL BE! So quit checking up on me! know what you re up to. Forcing me to come back here every time you mess up!
7th Oct '17 1:56:51 PM whunt
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*In the episode "Feral Friends", how was Sandy unaffected by Neptune's Moon but WAS affected by Neptune's Sun? If you make the argument it only works for warmbloods/air-breathers, that does not excuse Pearl, who was affected by the former and not the latter? Does the Sun work for land animals if that's the case?
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