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** Before Chihiro walks away in frustration, and even before they've even eaten a lot of food, you can hear very loud snorting and grunting from both of them as they continue to eat. Humans do not typically make these types of noises while eating. It's likely that they started to turn almost immediately after that first bite of food.
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** Before Chihiro walks away in frustration, and even before they've even eaten a lot of food, you can hear very loud snorting and grunting from both of them as they continue to eat. Humans do not typically make these types of noises while eating. It's likely that they started to turn almost immediately after that first bite of food.food.
* Did No Face really want to eat Chihiro? Is that why he kept giving her gifts or did he develop this unhealthy and ravenous appetite after spending too much time in the bathhouse?
* Did No Face really want to eat Chihiro? Is that why he kept giving her gifts or did he develop this unhealthy and ravenous appetite after spending too much time in the bathhouse?
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** She probably used another set of stairs somewhere. LawOfConservationOfDetail.
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** She probably used another set of stairs somewhere. LawOfConservationOfDetail.LawOfConservationOfDetail.
* By "DontLookBack," Haku also meant that Chihiro should not tell anyone else about her experience in the spirit world after she returned.
** It may also be a reference to the Greek tale of Orpheus - he went to Hades to save his lover, Eurydice, on the condition that he doesn't look back until he leaves. He does look back when he is out, but not when Eurydice leaves - leaving her trapped in Hades for eternity.
** Or Lot's family in the Bible. Don't Look Back is a common mythological/folkloric trope across many cultures, one of many that Miyazaki channels into his works.
* Eating food at an apparently abandoned theme park is a pretty bad idea, even without spirit world creepiness. They just start eating food that has just been sitting out for-- if not years, months, weeks, or days, then at least hours.
** While it was a superbly stupid idea to assume that all that food lying there was okay to eat even if they intended to pay as soon as any personnel showed, the food did smell and look fresh out of the oven/pan/pot/whatever that respective dish was made in and despite it being warm enough weather to not wear sweaters or coats there were no flies flying around.
* It's worth noting that the act of simply smelling the food may have started affecting the parents' minds almost immediately - as soon as they smell it, it's all they care about. Granted, while they had been traveling for likely several hours and were probably hungry and wanted to stretch their legs, there's still a few additional cues:
** Chihiro's mother impatiently tells her to "hurry it up" as Chihiro struggles to cross the river with its huge rocks. Neither parent really makes an effort to help her, but the dad actively extends a hand to the mother to grab. They begin heading off without her. Bratty or not, parents typically keep their kids close in unfamiliar areas.
** They didn’t even bothered to consider that just the mere presence of delicious smelling food at stalls in an abandoned amusement park to be at all suspicious nor did they even try to resist or suppress their hunger in hopes that the staff would return. Even starving humans tend to be instinctively wary about eating food that’s been suspiciously left out in the open especially if they don’t know WHERE it came from as it could be poisoned or a trap set by someone or something they should avoid.
** Even if they had intended to pay for the food as soon as the workers came back, they seem to almost immediately attack the food upon reaching the stalls with little to no hesitation. Sure, they were hungry, but typically, even hungry people at least converse during their meals, or start to eat a bit slower. Chihiro's parents almost immediately started GORGING themselves once they'd had that first taste. They barely slow down to consider what they're eating and eventually start to take absolutely no notice of Chihiro.
** Before Chihiro walks away in frustration, and even before they've even eaten a lot of food, you can hear very loud snorting and grunting from both of them as they continue to eat. Humans do not typically make these types of noises while eating. It's likely that they started to turn almost immediately after that first bite of food.
* By "DontLookBack," Haku also meant that Chihiro should not tell anyone else about her experience in the spirit world after she returned.
** It may also be a reference to the Greek tale of Orpheus - he went to Hades to save his lover, Eurydice, on the condition that he doesn't look back until he leaves. He does look back when he is out, but not when Eurydice leaves - leaving her trapped in Hades for eternity.
** Or Lot's family in the Bible. Don't Look Back is a common mythological/folkloric trope across many cultures, one of many that Miyazaki channels into his works.
* Eating food at an apparently abandoned theme park is a pretty bad idea, even without spirit world creepiness. They just start eating food that has just been sitting out for-- if not years, months, weeks, or days, then at least hours.
** While it was a superbly stupid idea to assume that all that food lying there was okay to eat even if they intended to pay as soon as any personnel showed, the food did smell and look fresh out of the oven/pan/pot/whatever that respective dish was made in and despite it being warm enough weather to not wear sweaters or coats there were no flies flying around.
* It's worth noting that the act of simply smelling the food may have started affecting the parents' minds almost immediately - as soon as they smell it, it's all they care about. Granted, while they had been traveling for likely several hours and were probably hungry and wanted to stretch their legs, there's still a few additional cues:
** Chihiro's mother impatiently tells her to "hurry it up" as Chihiro struggles to cross the river with its huge rocks. Neither parent really makes an effort to help her, but the dad actively extends a hand to the mother to grab. They begin heading off without her. Bratty or not, parents typically keep their kids close in unfamiliar areas.
** They didn’t even bothered to consider that just the mere presence of delicious smelling food at stalls in an abandoned amusement park to be at all suspicious nor did they even try to resist or suppress their hunger in hopes that the staff would return. Even starving humans tend to be instinctively wary about eating food that’s been suspiciously left out in the open especially if they don’t know WHERE it came from as it could be poisoned or a trap set by someone or something they should avoid.
** Even if they had intended to pay for the food as soon as the workers came back, they seem to almost immediately attack the food upon reaching the stalls with little to no hesitation. Sure, they were hungry, but typically, even hungry people at least converse during their meals, or start to eat a bit slower. Chihiro's parents almost immediately started GORGING themselves once they'd had that first taste. They barely slow down to consider what they're eating and eventually start to take absolutely no notice of Chihiro.
** Before Chihiro walks away in frustration, and even before they've even eaten a lot of food, you can hear very loud snorting and grunting from both of them as they continue to eat. Humans do not typically make these types of noises while eating. It's likely that they started to turn almost immediately after that first bite of food.
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* How did Chihiro get back up the staircase from the boiler room after that one step broke on her way down? The narrative skips over her climb back up the stairs.
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* How did Chihiro get back up the staircase from the boiler room after that one step broke on her way down? The narrative skips over her climb back up the stairs.stairs.
** She probably used another set of stairs somewhere. LawOfConservationOfDetail.
** She probably used another set of stairs somewhere. LawOfConservationOfDetail.
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** He was curious as to whether a 10-year-old girl would be brave enough to walk right up to the furnace. Or maybe it's just a cultural norm in the spirit world, so once Chihiro lifts the coal she's under the "finished what you started" rule and it would be rude for Kamaji to interrupt her in the middle of a task like that.
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** He was curious as to whether a 10-year-old girl would be brave enough to walk right up to the furnace. Or maybe it's just a cultural norm in the spirit world, so once Chihiro lifts the coal she's under the "finished what you started" rule and it would be rude for Kamaji to interrupt her in the middle of a task like that.that.
* How did Chihiro get back up the staircase from the boiler room after that one step broke on her way down? The narrative skips over her climb back up the stairs.
* How did Chihiro get back up the staircase from the boiler room after that one step broke on her way down? The narrative skips over her climb back up the stairs.
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* Even though Kamaji didn't approve of Chihiro helping the Sootballs by carrying the coal piece for one of them, why didn't he do or say anything to prevent her from doing the task for them?
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* Even though Kamaji didn't approve of Chihiro helping the Sootballs by carrying the coal piece for one of them, why didn't he do or say anything to prevent her from doing the task for them?them?
** He was curious as to whether a 10-year-old girl would be brave enough to walk right up to the furnace. Or maybe it's just a cultural norm in the spirit world, so once Chihiro lifts the coal she's under the "finished what you started" rule and it would be rude for Kamaji to interrupt her in the middle of a task like that.
** He was curious as to whether a 10-year-old girl would be brave enough to walk right up to the furnace. Or maybe it's just a cultural norm in the spirit world, so once Chihiro lifts the coal she's under the "finished what you started" rule and it would be rude for Kamaji to interrupt her in the middle of a task like that.
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** No-Face uses Aogaeru's voice to communicate with people, so it would be logical to assume, along with Aogaeru's absence in the morning, that he was eaten by No-Face.
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** No-Face uses Aogaeru's voice to communicate with people, so it would be logical to assume, along with Aogaeru's absence in the morning, that he was eaten by No-Face.No-Face.
* Even though Kamaji didn't approve of Chihiro helping the Sootballs by carrying the coal piece for one of them, why didn't he do or say anything to prevent her from doing the task for them?
* Even though Kamaji didn't approve of Chihiro helping the Sootballs by carrying the coal piece for one of them, why didn't he do or say anything to prevent her from doing the task for them?
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** ValuesDissonance is in place here. Yubaba was mocking her bratty childish nature and the fact that her parents effectively committed theft (Chihiro's father intended to pay for the food, but still simply grabbed food while the staff was absent) but it’s still unreasonable as Chihiro herself technically didn’t want to be in the Spirit Realm nor did she help herself to any of the food and was openly and coldly dismissed by her own parents when she told them that she didn’t like the place and that she wanted to leave.
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** ValuesDissonance is in place here. Yubaba was mocking her bratty childish nature and the fact that her parents effectively committed theft (Chihiro's father intended to pay for the food, but still simply grabbed food while the staff was absent) absent which is still theft) but it’s still unreasonable to put the blame on Chihiro as Chihiro herself technically didn’t want had been perfectly willing to be in the Spirit Realm nor did she help herself to any leave after that surprised blast of the food and wind yet was openly and coldly dismissed and ignored by her own parents when she told them that she didn’t like the place and that she wanted to leave.leave, thrice!
