History Headscratchers / SilverLiningsPlaybook

21st May '16 4:09:32 PM Delta2501
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** I think the thing with the envelopes shows that he's taking other bets. I think he just places big bets on the Eagles with his normal bookie.

to:

** I think the thing with the envelopes shows that he's taking other bets. I think he just places big bets on the Eagles with his normal bookie.bookie.
* Why does Tiffany at one point suddenly display extensive knowledge of the Eagles' results when earlier in the film she'd claimed not to like football, listing Pat's football shirt at dinner as a point against him when she initially propositions him for sex?
9th Oct '15 12:25:45 PM BanjoTCat
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Technically, he could have. It doesn't change the fact that they are still the NEW YORK Giants and had their start in the city proper. It would be akin to saying the Washington Redskins aren't really from Washington because their stadium is in Landover, MD.
30th May '15 7:13:25 PM BanjoTCat
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** In order to be diagnosed as bipolar, a professional has to diagnose you. Given Pat's family's working class character, it's very realistic that they would avoid addressing the possibility of mental illness and certainly Pat wouldn't admit that he had any problems unless he were forced to.

to:

** In order to be diagnosed as bipolar, a professional has to diagnose you. Given Pat's family's working class character, it's very realistic that they would avoid addressing the possibility of mental illness and certainly Pat wouldn't admit illness. Pat's personality is also marked by a lack of self-awareness. Even though he now knows that he had any problems unless has bipolar disorder, whenever he were forced to.has difficulties with people, his first instinct still is to assume that other people are at fault.
30th May '15 6:52:33 PM BanjoTCat
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** In order to be diagnosed as bipolar, a professional has to diagnose you. Given Pat's family's working class character, it's very realistic that they would avoid addressing the possibility of mental illness and certainly Pat wouldn't admit that he had any problems unless he were forced to.
5th May '15 7:47:18 PM JohnSherman
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Towards the beginning of the film, Pat states that he had suffered with undiagnosed bipolar disorder for most of his life. Based on how he acts throughout the film, I'm seriously wondering how that is possible. He's bad in social situations, blunt to a fault, and apparently prone to freaking out over mundane things like a bad ending to a book. How exactly did this guy get to adulthood, get a wife, and get a job as a substitute teacher without someone pointing out that he is clearly a few cards short of a full deck?
12th Mar '14 8:07:17 PM pointaken
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Is Pat Sr actually running a book, or is he just gambling? My understanding (I'm no expert) is that bookies normally work things so that they profit no matter who wins the game, by taking bets on both sides. Pat Sr's obsession with the Eagles winning seems to imply that he only profits if the Eagles win.

to:

* Is Pat Sr actually running a book, or is he just gambling? My understanding (I'm no expert) is that bookies normally work things so that they profit no matter who wins the game, by taking bets on both sides. Pat Sr's obsession with the Eagles winning seems to imply that he only profits if the Eagles win.win.
**I think the thing with the envelopes shows that he's taking other bets. I think he just places big bets on the Eagles with his normal bookie.
17th Dec '13 1:50:13 PM ladyphlogiston
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** You have to realize that a lot of people have had very successful relationships that started as rebounds. However, in this case, the two of them slowly fell for each other in the matter of a couple of months. They met just before Halloween and by the time the dance competition came, it was already near Christmas. Had Pat decided to sleep with Tiffany from the get-go, this would have DEFINITELY been a rebound, but instead he took his time with her and they formed a healthy connection off of it.

to:

** You have to realize that a lot of people have had very successful relationships that started as rebounds. However, in this case, the two of them slowly fell for each other in the matter of a couple of months. They met just before Halloween and by the time the dance competition came, it was already near Christmas. Had Pat decided to sleep with Tiffany from the get-go, this would have DEFINITELY been a rebound, but instead he took his time with her and they formed a healthy connection off of it.it.
* Is Pat Sr actually running a book, or is he just gambling? My understanding (I'm no expert) is that bookies normally work things so that they profit no matter who wins the game, by taking bets on both sides. Pat Sr's obsession with the Eagles winning seems to imply that he only profits if the Eagles win.
17th Nov '13 4:27:59 PM tonagamu
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Is there any reason to believe that Pat and Tiffany are anything but each other's rebound? There's no build-up for any ''real'' romantic relationship, it's all "so today I decided I'm in love with you". In Tiffany's case it seems like he's the emotional rebound when the sexual rebounds didn't work and in Pat's case he just turns on a dime from obsessing over Nikki to deciding "eh, I'm in love with Tiffany now instead". Which can be an interesting story to tell, sure, but great romance?

to:

* Is there any reason to believe that Pat and Tiffany are anything but each other's rebound? There's no build-up for any ''real'' romantic relationship, it's all "so today I decided I'm in love with you". In Tiffany's case it seems like he's the emotional rebound when the sexual rebounds didn't work and in Pat's case he just turns on a dime from obsessing over Nikki to deciding "eh, I'm in love with Tiffany now instead". Which can be an interesting story to tell, sure, but great romance?romance?
** You have to realize that a lot of people have had very successful relationships that started as rebounds. However, in this case, the two of them slowly fell for each other in the matter of a couple of months. They met just before Halloween and by the time the dance competition came, it was already near Christmas. Had Pat decided to sleep with Tiffany from the get-go, this would have DEFINITELY been a rebound, but instead he took his time with her and they formed a healthy connection off of it.
1st Sep '13 4:50:22 AM badboll
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* For someone obsessed with details in superstition, shouldn't Pat Sr. have dismissed Tiffany's "Excelsior" theory, given that the Giants are actually from New Jersey?

to:

* For someone obsessed with details in superstition, shouldn't Pat Sr. have dismissed Tiffany's "Excelsior" theory, given that the Giants are actually from New Jersey?Jersey?
* Is there any reason to believe that Pat and Tiffany are anything but each other's rebound? There's no build-up for any ''real'' romantic relationship, it's all "so today I decided I'm in love with you". In Tiffany's case it seems like he's the emotional rebound when the sexual rebounds didn't work and in Pat's case he just turns on a dime from obsessing over Nikki to deciding "eh, I'm in love with Tiffany now instead". Which can be an interesting story to tell, sure, but great romance?
28th Jul '13 5:23:00 PM GigaGuess
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

**** It was inferred after Pat made the Double-or-Nothing bet and Pat Jr. went out and reread the note, this time noticing Tiffany's "reading the signs" phrase, at which time he twigged into the fact that it was not Nikki's words (please note, too...the letter was done on a word processor. Not a guaranteed tell, but a good bit of foreshadowing earlier on, all the same.) Then, when Pat gave her the last letter, where he tells her he knew, she came out to say something to the effect of "You let me lie to you all week?" So yeah, we know.
This list shows the last 10 events of 22. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Headscratchers.SilverLiningsPlaybook