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*For what it was worth, one villager was shown having a mother who turned and she fed her her blood in a glass and she never showed any compulsion on having to feed aside from the initial bout of hunger.
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* I realize Natsuno's dad is meant to be an idiot, but it blows my mind that somebody would hate religion and superstition to the point of stripping his son's walls after uprooting his family to move to the countryside where people tend to be much more religious and superstitious.
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* I realize Natsuno's dad is meant to be an idiot, but it blows my mind that somebody would hate religion and superstition to the point of stripping his son's walls walls...after uprooting his family to move to the countryside where people tend to be much more religious and superstitious.
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*** Presumably, she would not have become shiki if she was not put into a place where shiki had been invited into. Either that, or the very act of bringing her "corpse" into the building acts as a general invitation. The real question here is this: how long do such invitations last? Because if they last indefinitely, then that would make burning down the village a very logical measure to take (even if it is taken by somebody who has gone completely bonkers), since you'd need to destroy the village to get rid of all those invitations. You know. Just in case they missed one or two. Since any shiki they missed are hardly likely to reveal themselves, burning down the village would be a logical response.
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*** Presumably, she would not have become shiki if she was not put into a place where shiki had been invited into. Either that, or the very act of bringing her "corpse" into the building acts as a general invitation. The real question here is this: how long do such invitations last? Because if they last indefinitely, then that would make burning down the village a very logical measure to take (even if it is taken by somebody who has gone completely bonkers), since you'd need to destroy the village to get rid of all those invitations. You know. Just in case they missed one or two. Since any shiki they missed are hardly likely to reveal themselves, burning down the village would be a logical response.response.
* I realize Natsuno's dad is meant to be an idiot, but it blows my mind that somebody would hate religion and superstition to the point of stripping his son's walls after uprooting his family to move to the countryside where people tend to be much more religious and superstitious.
* I realize Natsuno's dad is meant to be an idiot, but it blows my mind that somebody would hate religion and superstition to the point of stripping his son's walls after uprooting his family to move to the countryside where people tend to be much more religious and superstitious.
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** That's exactly what I said. She invited Tatsumi in, thus the Shiki were allowed to enter the clinic. As such, her rising up was because Shiki were allowed in the clinic due to her invitation. You're missing the point. The question was "What would happen if Shiki weren't allowed in a building, but a body that was due to rise up was left in a building where Shiki weren't invited into?"
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** That's exactly what I said. She invited Tatsumi in, thus the Shiki were allowed to enter the clinic. As such, her rising up was because Shiki were allowed in the clinic due to her invitation. You're missing the point. The question was "What would happen if Shiki weren't allowed in a building, but a body that was due to rise up was left in a building where Shiki weren't invited into?"into?"
***Presumably, she would not have become shiki if she was not put into a place where shiki had been invited into. Either that, or the very act of bringing her "corpse" into the building acts as a general invitation. The real question here is this: how long do such invitations last? Because if they last indefinitely, then that would make burning down the village a very logical measure to take (even if it is taken by somebody who has gone completely bonkers), since you'd need to destroy the village to get rid of all those invitations. You know. Just in case they missed one or two. Since any shiki they missed are hardly likely to reveal themselves, burning down the village would be a logical response.
***Presumably, she would not have become shiki if she was not put into a place where shiki had been invited into. Either that, or the very act of bringing her "corpse" into the building acts as a general invitation. The real question here is this: how long do such invitations last? Because if they last indefinitely, then that would make burning down the village a very logical measure to take (even if it is taken by somebody who has gone completely bonkers), since you'd need to destroy the village to get rid of all those invitations. You know. Just in case they missed one or two. Since any shiki they missed are hardly likely to reveal themselves, burning down the village would be a logical response.
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******Actually, many humans feel very strongly that killing animals such as the great apes, elephants, dolphins, whales, and other sentient or semi-sentient beings is wrong, and will often equate the killing of these creatures to being fairly close to killing a human being. And if you want to know for certain what's so different about killing a self-aware being, morally speaking, the answer is that a self-aware being can defend itself, and can find ways to kill you right back. Morality, as the show demonstrates, always takes a back seat to the practicalities of survival. There is no moral barrier to killing man-eating tigers and lions. It is all about survival. Food may happen, but that's irrelevant--we don't kill them for food, we kill them to not get eaten. And I would like to point out that when you meet somebody who has a different cultural intuition as to morality, the only thing that keeps you from trying to force them to conform to your intuition and principles is that very same intuition. You believe it immoral to force others to believe as you do, which is great...but historically, most humans have not agreed. And, again, practicality and survival have driven this decision. Since the whole function of morality is to ensure our survival as a community, this would seem to indicate that forcing a stranger to conform to your sense of morality is indeed a highly moral proposition.
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* I don't think they need to kill to survive, because there are a lot of instances where Shiki changed targets. Namely, the "move-away" villagers that were first bitten by experienced Shiki and then passed off to the newly risen. If they had a truly uncontrollable compulsion to kill their targets, this would be nearly impossible but instead it seemed quite common. What I think was actually happening was that Sunako and Tatsumi taught all the new Shiki that they needed to kill their prey and it became a self-fulfilling psychological prophecy. I think they did this because Sunako wanted to transform as many of the villagers as possible, and to do that they all needed to die to obtain the highest yield of new Shiki.
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**Tatsumi does ask Natsuno's dad for permission to enter his house after Natsuno returns as a Jinrou.
