History Headscratchers / ShadowHearts

23rd Dec '15 9:01:02 AM Summonwind
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*** And the Anastasia that he knows there might not be the same Anastasia he and Alice meet again - because when everyone dreamed of the world they wanted, they could have gone to alternate timelines entirely.
14th Nov '15 2:55:05 PM Summonwind
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** The games are set in the 1910s. Photographs were uncommon back then, and someone like Ben would ''not'' have likely owned one. This would make it seem pretty likely that Yuri would have not made the connection behind "Red-headed caucasian" and "Mother - who was a redhead." Not only that, but Yuri could have blocked out some memories due to Dehuai sending monsters after him.

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** The games are set in the 1910s. Photographs were uncommon back then, and someone like Ben would ''not'' have likely owned one. This would make it seem pretty likely that Yuri would have not made the connection behind "Red-headed caucasian" and "Mother - who was a redhead." Not only that, but Yuri could have blocked out some memories due to Dehuai sending monsters after him.him.
** I actually thought that the reason why he shield Karin from the blast in the beginning of Shadow Hearts 2 because she resembles his mother but eventually brush it off as a conidence or he didn't think much of it after.
16th May '15 6:02:25 PM SpaghettiBoy
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** It could have always been that Will was a little more easy to keep under control than Malice.
16th May '15 5:59:37 PM SpaghettiBoy
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* While it's likely that Yuri might not have realized that [[spoiler: Karin is actually his mother]] because of how out-there the idea is, shouldn't he have at least noticed the similarities in their appearance? Surely meeting a girl who looked exactly like a younger version of [[spoiler:his mother]] would warrant SOME surprise and confusion. Did he really just not notice, or what?

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* While it's likely that Yuri might not have realized that [[spoiler: Karin is actually his mother]] because of how out-there the idea is, shouldn't he have at least noticed the similarities in their appearance? Surely meeting a girl who looked exactly like a younger version of [[spoiler:his mother]] would warrant SOME surprise and confusion. Did he really just not notice, or what?what?
** The games are set in the 1910s. Photographs were uncommon back then, and someone like Ben would ''not'' have likely owned one. This would make it seem pretty likely that Yuri would have not made the connection behind "Red-headed caucasian" and "Mother - who was a redhead." Not only that, but Yuri could have blocked out some memories due to Dehuai sending monsters after him.
14th Jun '14 9:24:33 AM hakulives
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* While I get that Yuri might not have realized that [[spoiler: Karin is actually his mother]] because of how out-there the idea is, shouldn't he have at least noticed the similarities in their appearance? If I met a girl who looked exactly like a younger version of [[spoiler:my mother]], it'd warrant SOME surprise and confusion. Did he really just not notice, or what?

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* While I get it's likely that Yuri might not have realized that [[spoiler: Karin is actually his mother]] because of how out-there the idea is, shouldn't he have at least noticed the similarities in their appearance? If I met Surely meeting a girl who looked exactly like a younger version of [[spoiler:my mother]], it'd [[spoiler:his mother]] would warrant SOME surprise and confusion. Did he really just not notice, or what?
18th Apr '14 11:42:34 AM hakulives
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** There's a trope for that: [[TemporalParadox Ontological Paradox.]]

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** There's a trope for that: [[TemporalParadox Ontological Paradox.]]]]
* While I get that Yuri might not have realized that [[spoiler: Karin is actually his mother]] because of how out-there the idea is, shouldn't he have at least noticed the similarities in their appearance? If I met a girl who looked exactly like a younger version of [[spoiler:my mother]], it'd warrant SOME surprise and confusion. Did he really just not notice, or what?
28th Jan '14 11:31:34 AM SpaghettiBoy
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*** And the Anastasia that he knows there might not be the same Anastasia he and Alice meet again - because when everyone dreamed of the world they wanted, they could have gone to alternate timelines entirely.
15th Apr '13 3:18:02 PM rahalstmin
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* What is the origin of Anne's Cross? If we are to believe what we are led to from Shadow Hearts Covenant [[spoiler: and Karen is really Yuri's mother, Anne, then wouldn't the cross have no origin at all?]] We learn in Shadow Hearts that Ben received the cross from his wife and it eventually found its way to Yuri. We find out in Shadow Hearts Covenant that Yuri gave it to Alice [[spoiler: but due to Alice's death he left it at her grave until he returned with Karen. Yuri then gave the cross to Karen at the time.]] Finally, with the ending of Covenant we are led to believe that [[spoiler: Karen will end up giving it to Ben as she is really Anne.]] Where does it come from? Or is it some kind of fixed point in time to use Doctor Who terms.

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* What is the origin of Anne's Cross? If we are to believe what we are led to from Shadow Hearts Covenant [[spoiler: and Karen is really Yuri's mother, Anne, then wouldn't the cross have no origin at all?]] We learn in Shadow Hearts that Ben received the cross from his wife and it eventually found its way to Yuri. We find out in Shadow Hearts Covenant that Yuri gave it to Alice [[spoiler: but due to Alice's death he left it at her grave until he returned with Karen. Yuri then gave the cross to Karen at the time.]] Finally, with the ending of Covenant we are led to believe that [[spoiler: Karen will end up giving it to Ben as she is really Anne.]] Where does it come from? Or is it some kind of fixed point in time to use Doctor Who terms.terms.
** There's a trope for that: [[TemporalParadox Ontological Paradox.]]
27th Feb '13 4:11:30 PM icancareless
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** In the bad ending of SH1, [[spoiler: Alice sacrifices her soul in exchange for the safety of Yuri's soul. Her selfless action clears Yuri's soul of the four masks' malice permanently.]] This makes it so the curse is lifted from Yuri and it's effects fade from his soul. In the good ending, [[spoiler: Yuri and Alice confront Atman, who was basically the power behind the masks, and defeat him. With Atman defeated the curse no longer held power over Yuri. Therefore, the masks could not collect malice anymore to torment Yuri. Being powerless, the masks likely just moved on from Yuri's soul as they were unable to complete their vengeance.]]

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** In the bad ending of SH1, [[spoiler: Alice sacrifices her soul in exchange for the safety of Yuri's soul. Her selfless action clears Yuri's soul of the four masks' malice permanently.]] This makes it so the curse is lifted from Yuri and it's effects fade from his soul. In the good ending, [[spoiler: Yuri and Alice confront Atman, who was basically the power behind the masks, and defeat him. With Atman defeated the curse no longer held power over Yuri. Therefore, the masks could not collect malice anymore to torment Yuri. Being powerless, the masks likely just moved on from Yuri's soul as they were unable to complete their vengeance.]]]]
* What is the origin of Anne's Cross? If we are to believe what we are led to from Shadow Hearts Covenant [[spoiler: and Karen is really Yuri's mother, Anne, then wouldn't the cross have no origin at all?]] We learn in Shadow Hearts that Ben received the cross from his wife and it eventually found its way to Yuri. We find out in Shadow Hearts Covenant that Yuri gave it to Alice [[spoiler: but due to Alice's death he left it at her grave until he returned with Karen. Yuri then gave the cross to Karen at the time.]] Finally, with the ending of Covenant we are led to believe that [[spoiler: Karen will end up giving it to Ben as she is really Anne.]] Where does it come from? Or is it some kind of fixed point in time to use Doctor Who terms.
27th Feb '13 4:02:47 PM icancareless
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** In the bad ending of SH1, [[spoiler: Alice sacrifices her soul in exchange for the safety of Yuri's soul. Her selfless action clears Yuri's soul of the four masks' malice permanently.]] This makes it so the curse is lifted from Yuri and it's effects fade from his soul. In the good ending [[spoilers: Yuri and Alice confront Atman, who was basically the power behind the masks, and defeat him. With Atman defeated the curse no longer held power over Yuri. Therefore, the masks could not collect malice anymore to torment Yuri. Being powerless, the masks likely just moved on from Yuri's soul as they were unable to complete their vengeance.]]

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** In the bad ending of SH1, [[spoiler: Alice sacrifices her soul in exchange for the safety of Yuri's soul. Her selfless action clears Yuri's soul of the four masks' malice permanently.]] This makes it so the curse is lifted from Yuri and it's effects fade from his soul. In the good ending [[spoilers: ending, [[spoiler: Yuri and Alice confront Atman, who was basically the power behind the masks, and defeat him. With Atman defeated the curse no longer held power over Yuri. Therefore, the masks could not collect malice anymore to torment Yuri. Being powerless, the masks likely just moved on from Yuri's soul as they were unable to complete their vengeance.]]
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