History Headscratchers / SecretInvasion2023

** The Sorcerers of Kama-Taj were keeping a very low profile pretty much until ''Infinity War'', so Fury may not have even known about them, or known enough about them to know they could help. Even if he did know and asked for their help, the Ancient One would likely have refused, viewing it as a problem that is not theirs to deal with (they're focused on mystical and other-dimensional threats). After ''Infinity War'' and the Sorcerers becoming known, there's the Blip and its aftereffects to deal with, pushing the search for a Skrull homeworld lower and lower on the priority list, and by then most of the Skrull youth were disaffected enough to fall in line with Gravik anyway.

*** There's no such thing an anti-radiation drug in real-life. Maybe SHIELD's ultra-advanced fictional technology has come up with an anti-radiation drug...but Fury was just taking plain old iodine pills, which can protect your thyroid gland somewhat against radiation but not the rest of your body.

** Ritson's act isn't just evil, or impractical. It's outright delussional: During both battles against Thanos' army, the bulk of the force were the Wakandans, who won't have to abide to a foreign law, and the Sorcerers, who aren't also a government force. Ironheart is also in Wakanda, Asgardians are in Europe (Maybe they are their own country) and everything he has is... S.W.O.R.D. and the young avengers? Scratch that last one: The Young Avengers are just a kid's gang. Should a hostile force try to enter the USA, he woulnd't be able at all to enforce that policy
*** That, and the fact of any ship saying "So, we cannot land on USA? Allright, we will take all our alien tech, science and discoveries to another country and leave you stranded in the past"

** Emilia Clarke didn't like the make-up process for her Skrull form because of how uncomfortable it was, which is why she spent most of her screen time in her human form. Jennifer Lawrence had a similar complaint when she played Mystique in the X-Men films.

** It's possible more Skrulls revolted and were killed by Gravik than we saw. He may have left their bodies behind (like we see is the case with Beto and those who attempted to mutiny alongside him) and sent everyone else away so they wouldn't die in the strike if it went ahead.

** He claimed they were "locked away." Whether that means safely in a bunker or chained up in a prison is unclear.

** There's nothing to suggest the two council members who disagree with Gravik are necessarily "token good guys". The council's original long-term agenda was probably to replace important public figures, then use their political and media clout to create some kind of permanent home for Skrulls on Earth. Gravik's plan is way more drastic and risky, since it entails a full-scale global war, so Sagar and Caspani are against it, but that doesn't mean their own alternative plan isn't morally dubious as well.

** Talos' "Keller" form still looks roughly the same as it did when he first assumed it. The real Keller is roughly 27+ years older than Talos' current appearance (he was in his mid 50's in 1995), and potentially deceased at that. Looking like someone did from the mid 90s isn't going to raise too many red flags because it's not going to look much like the real Keller anymore. The accent probably helps too.
** I think the implication is that Talos originally took the form on because it on because Keller was someone Fury could meet with semi-regularly and not arouse suspicion. Who would be suspicious of Fury occasionally getting dinner with his boss. Talos then held on to the form as a courtesy to Fury, who had become comfortable interacting with him in that appearance. It's the same reason that Varra still looks like Priscilla, and has let herself age. Fury was comfortable with the form, so his Skrull companion kept it to be nice.

** New Skrullos is in the shadow of a Chernobyl-like melted down reactor and their first plan is to use a dirty bomb, with the note given that Skrulls are immune to radiation (This bodes quite ill for the humans locked in their fracking pods, but that's another story). Gravik's plan is to trigger a thermonuclear exchange which would kill all the humans and leave the Skrulls free to walk among the irradiated planet.

** Alternately, maybe Fury collected their DNA separately, to augment that from the Battle of Earth. Ghost in particular would be a valuable get, as her intangibility isn't something that any other heroes can really replicate (the closest one possibly being Vision).

** It's possible more Skrulls revolted and were killed by Gravik than we saw. He may have left their bodies behind and sent everyone else away so they wouldn't die in the strike if it went ahead.

** Except that is exactly what Gravik demanded from Fury in order to make him and his Skrulls strong enough to overthrow the human race. Imagine what would happen if G'iah did not have a change of heart and replace Nick Fury. The same exchange happens except Gravik immediately kills Nick Fury after getting what he wants and then proceeds with instigating a nuclear war between the Humans. I don't know about you but if you have a Macguffin that only the BigBad will benefit from for his plans, you are better off destroying it. Also, Nick Fury contradicts himself He does not want to involve the Avengers but then gives G'iah all their powers. Why would Nick Fury place all his hopes on a turncoat who has been working for the enemy the entire time and only recently had a change of heart instead of calling in the people who 100% percent will work for Fury to protect the planet from alien threats?

* In the flashback in episode 2, it's confirmed that Gravik was off-world and they flew him over, presumably in a spaceship. In the same episode, Talos reveals that over a million Skrulls have come to Earth over the years and again, this would have to involve space travel. The Skrulls are a space-faring race who have had their own ships since the 90s. Why are they relying on Fury to find a planet when he is a lowly human who knows nothing about space travel and has no access to a ship. They should have gone off on their own and found their own planet decades ago.

* In episode 6, Falsworth has fake Rhodey at gunpoint. She tries to convince President Ritson that "Rhodey" is a Skrull, so that Ritson would call of the attack on Russia, and later Fury joins them and tries to convince Ritson too. They both know that they have only minutes to make Ritson call off the attack, so instead or trying to argue their point to him, why doesn't Falsworth just shoot "Rhodey" so she'll revert to Skrull form? If for some reason she doesn't want to kill "Rhodey", she knows (from her interrogations of Brogan and the Skrull who impersonated her boss) that even a non-lethal gunshot will make Skrull body parts revert back to their original form. So what's the point of trying convince Ritson with words when there's a much more effective way to do that?

* In ''Film/BlackPantherWakandaForever'', he was arrested for spying for the Wakandans and freed by Okoye. He's still a fugitive, though, so why is he (or a skrull pretending to be him), in contact with Fury, who has an official position with the US government?

[[folder: The Skrull council make no sense before they gave Gravik their blessing]]
* Before the Skrull council voted 4-1 to lend their support to Gravik, their official stance peacefully remaining in hiding. Thing is, they have actively been kidnapping and replacing public figures like Chris Stearns and the UK prime minister, and possibly the rest. So how did the token good guys on the council, Shirley and the NATO secretary general, reconcile that with their supposedly peaceful stance?
** There's nothing to suggest the two council members who don't agree with Gravik are necessarily "token good guys". The council's original long-term plan was probably to replace important public figures so they could use their political clout to create some kind of permanent home for Skrulls on Earth. Gravik's plan is way more drastic and risky, since it entails a full-scale global war, so Sagar and Caspani are against it, but that doesn't mean their own alternative plan isn't morally dubious as well.

** So are you saying that Rhodey wasn't a Skrull either? It also begs the question of whether Skrulls can even copy the disabilities of their targets? If a Skrull copies Nick Fury, do they lose an eye or can still see out of it? Will a Skrull copy Rhodey's damaged spine or do they have to pretend to be crippled?

** G'iah replacing Fury was an essential part of his plan, so it's not like the same exhange would have happened without her. If G'iah had refused to work with the plan, there's no way Fury himself would have taken the actual Harvest to Gravik and confronted him. In that case he would have had to come up with an alternate plan, which possibly would've involved calling the Avengers. Also, while G'iah did work for Gravik earlier, Gravik had just killed her father, whom she clearly loved deeply. So Fury could be quite certain G'iah would want revenge on Gravik and would not change sides again.

** They've also been using Humanity as a literal human shield, initially to blend in and avoid Kree detection; now, due to Earth's rising prominence (comparatively-speaking), it's potentially too risky to attack Earth solely to try and wipe out any Skrulls hiding among the populace. Earth is actually a really convenient planet for Skrull refugees, which is probably why so many of them made their way to Earth despite the risks, or at least part of the reason why.

* In Film/BlackPantherWakandaForever, he was arrested for spying for the Wakandans and freed by Okoye. He's still a fugitive, though, so why is he (or a skrull pretending to be him), in contact with Fury, who has an official position with the US government?

* Before the skrull council voted 4-1 to lend their support to Gravik, their official stance peacefully remaining in hiding. Thing is, they have actively been kidnapping and replacing public figures like Chris Stearns and the UK prime minister, and possibly the rest. So how did the token good guys on the council, Shirley and the NATO secretary general, reconcile that with their supposedly peaceful stance?

* In episode 6, Falsworth has fake Rhodey at gunpoint. She tries to convince president Kitson that "Rhodey" is a Skrull, so that Kitson would call of the attack on Russia, and later Fury joins them and tries to convince Kitson too. They both know that they have only minutes to make the president call of the attack, so instead or trying to argue their point to him, why doesn't Falsworth just shoot "Rhodey" so she'll revert to Skrull form? If for some reason she doesn't want to kill "Rhodey", she knows that even a non-lethal gunshot will make Skrull body parts revert back to their original form. So what's the point of trying convince Kitson with words when there's a much more effective way to do that?

[[folder: Why didn't Falsworth just shoot "Rhodey" to prove she's a Skrull?]]

** G'iah replacing Fury was an essential part of his plan, so it's not like the same exhange would have happened without her. If G'iah had refused to work with the plan, there's no way Fury himself would have taken the actual Harvest to superpowered Gravik and confronted him. In that case he would have had to come up with an alternate plan, which possibly would've involved calling the Avengers. Also, while G'iah did work for Gravik earlier, Gravik had just killed her father, whom she clearly loved deeply. So Fury could be quite certain G'iah would want revenge on Gravik and would not change sides again.

*** Except that is exactly what Gravik demanded from Fury in order to make him and his Skrulls strong enough to overthrow the human race. Imagine what would happen if G'iah did not have a change of heart and replace Nick Fury. The same exchange happens except Gravik immediately kills Nick Fury after getting what he wants and then proceeds with instigating a nuclear war between the Humans. I don't know about you but if you have a Macguffin that only the BigBad will benefit from for his plans, you are better off destroying it. Also, Nick Fury contradicts himself He does not want to involve the Avengers but then gives G'iah all their powers. Why would Nick Fury place all his hopes on a turncoat who has been working for the enemy the entire time and only recently had a change of heart instead of calling in the people who 100% percent will work for Fury to protect the planet from alien threats?

** As seen in the previous episodes, Gravik had already given himself the more limited Super Skrull powers which G'iah also has. So it's not like G'iah is overpowered when they meet at New Skrullos, they are pretty much on equal footing. Either G'iah thought that getting all the extra powers from the Harvest would make it easier for her to defeat Gravik, or she wanted to get those extra powers out of selfish reasons.

* Nick Fury confronts Gravik at New Skrullos. They make a deal where Gravik is given the Harvest in exchange for abandoning his plans on Earth and going to another planet. Gravik gets the Harvest and, of course, reneges on his deal in favor of trying to kill Nick Fury and every human on the planet. But then it is revealed to be G'iah disguised as him who also used the Harvest on herself.But why did she even bother with that deal in the first place? G'iah knows Gravik is a homicidal son of a bitch who killed her parents and does not care if his own people is wiped out as a result of his plans. At that moment, G'iah has powers and Gravik doesn't. Why didn't G'iah just kill him on the spot and save herself the trouble? Nick Fury pretty much stopped Gravik's plans at that point.
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