History Headscratchers / Rocky

26th Jun '16 4:33:16 PM TheWanderer
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* When Rocky was punching Clubber during a clinch, was that even legal? Don't get me wrong it's still awesome, but isn't something like that against the rules in professional boxing?

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* When Rocky was punching Clubber during a clinch, was that even legal? Don't get me wrong it's still awesome, but isn't something like that against the rules in professional boxing?boxing?
** In a clinch, you have to assume that you are free to hit the opponent and they are free to hit you unless/until the ref tells you to break. Some refs will give an order to break very quickly, but technically the rules are to encourage the fighters to work and continue fighting as long as their hands and arms aren't being constrained by the opponent. In a real match the clinch you mean (I'm assuming you're talking about the final round of the second match) might well prompt a referee to call a break and separate the fighters because one of Rocky's arms is pinned between Clubber's arm and body, but since the ref hasn't called for them to stop punching and break, both Rocky and Clubber are free to pound away.
1st Dec '15 5:02:46 PM dbz77
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** ''Rocky Balboa'' does reveal that he had raised enough capital to open a restaurant. Perhaps a few public appearances was how he got funding.
12th Aug '15 11:43:03 AM FF32
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** The idea in the original film was that Rocky was a washed-up palooka, who could barely even box and wouldn't stand a chance against Apollo. In fact, he readily admits to Adrian that he ''can't'' beat Apollo - his goal is to do exactly what he did, last the entire fight without getting knocked out. His only real strengths in the first film are his superhuman will and ability to absorb punishment. The fight in the original film isn't that close - Rocky is barely hanging on by a thread at the final bell. In the second film's intro, this fight was re-edited to make it look much closer, so that it would be feasible for Rocky to actually beat Apollo, which he did in the climax of Rocky II. In the third film, it's revealed that Micky has since been hand-picking opponents that he knows Rocky can beat with his limited abilities: when he steps out of this comfort zone and fights Clubber Lang, he gets utterly destroyed. After training from Apollo in the same film, Rocky learns some fancy footwork etc., and beats Lang in their rematch via the innovative gambit of ''actually getting out of the way of some of his punches''. This doesn't really seem to stick though: In Rocky IV, he's right back to getting punched in the face for most of the match and the only reason he doesn't lose is...Well, because he's Rocky. And Drago is TheBigBad. His fighting style remains pretty much the same in Rocky V and Rocky Balboa, except in Rocky Balboa, he's so far down the DentedIron path that all his training is based around strength work, no speed work at all.

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** The idea in the original film was that Rocky was a washed-up palooka, who could barely even box and wouldn't stand a chance against Apollo. In fact, he readily admits to Adrian that he ''can't'' beat Apollo - his goal is to do exactly what he did, last the entire fight without getting knocked out. His only real strengths in the first film are his superhuman will and ability to absorb punishment. The fight in the original film isn't that close - Rocky is barely hanging on by a thread at the final bell. In the second film's intro, this fight was re-edited to make it look much closer, so that it would be feasible for Rocky to actually beat Apollo, which he did in the climax of Rocky II. In the third film, it's revealed that Micky has since been hand-picking opponents that he knows Rocky can beat with his limited abilities: when he steps out of this comfort zone and fights Clubber Lang, he gets utterly destroyed. After training from Apollo in the same film, Rocky learns some fancy footwork etc., and beats Lang in their rematch via the innovative gambit of ''actually getting out of the way of some of his punches''. This doesn't really seem to stick though: In Rocky IV, he's right back to getting punched in the face for most of the match and the only reason he doesn't lose is...Well, because he's Rocky. And Drago is TheBigBad.the BigBad. His fighting style remains pretty much the same in Rocky V and Rocky Balboa, except in Rocky Balboa, he's so far down the DentedIron path that all his training is based around strength work, no speed work at all.
26th Mar '15 7:59:26 AM STFilmmaker
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** Judging by Rocky II, I always thought Rocky was quite uncomfortable with the media-circus aspects of the fight game. He'd probably prefer to just be a coach, where he doesn't really need to be in the public eye and can still be fairly hands-on with the sport he loves, rather than being a pop-culture figure.

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** Judging by Rocky II, I always thought Rocky was quite uncomfortable with the media-circus aspects of the fight game. He'd probably prefer to just be a coach, where he doesn't really need to be in the public eye and can still be fairly hands-on with the sport he loves, rather than being a pop-culture figure.figure.
* When Rocky was punching Clubber during a clinch, was that even legal? Don't get me wrong it's still awesome, but isn't something like that against the rules in professional boxing?
23rd Mar '15 7:38:43 AM JakeRock
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*** Pretty sure that's exactly how it happened. I'm fairly sure Rocky III was supposed to be the last film, since there wasn't much else for Rocky to actually do by that point, so they put in his retirement to give the match extra gravitas. However, once they saw a chance to have Balboa ''single-handedly end the Cold War!!!'', they wrote Rocky IV and just retconned the retirement out of existence, much like his "career-ending" brain injury was ignored in later films.



* Rocky V: I get that Rocky's accountant stole all his money and left him penniless and his injuries forced him to retire, but we are still talking about (in-universe) the most popular athlete in the world (and probably the most popular person alive). All he would need to do is make a couple appearances and autograph sessions and he should be well on his way to recouping his lost fortune.

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* Rocky V: I get that Rocky's accountant stole all his money and left him penniless and his injuries forced him to retire, but we are still talking about (in-universe) the most popular athlete in the world (and probably the most popular person alive). All he would need to do is make a couple appearances and autograph sessions and he should be well on his way to recouping his lost fortune.fortune.
** Judging by Rocky II, I always thought Rocky was quite uncomfortable with the media-circus aspects of the fight game. He'd probably prefer to just be a coach, where he doesn't really need to be in the public eye and can still be fairly hands-on with the sport he loves, rather than being a pop-culture figure.
23rd Mar '15 7:11:00 AM JakeRock
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23rd Mar '15 7:10:55 AM JakeRock
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** The idea in the original film was that Rocky was a washed-up palooka, who could barely even box and wouldn't stand a chance against Apollo. In fact, he readily admits to Adrian that he ''can't'' beat Apollo - his goal is to do exactly what he did, last the entire fight without getting knocked out. His only real strengths in the first film are his superhuman will and ability to absorb punishment. The fight in the original film isn't that close - Rocky is barely hanging on by a thread at the final bell. In the second film's intro, this fight was re-edited to make it look much closer, so that it would be feasible for Rocky to actually beat Apollo, which he did in the climax of Rocky II. In the third film, it's revealed that Micky has since been hand-picking opponents that he knows Rocky can beat with his limited abilities: when he steps out of this comfort zone and fights Clubber Lang, he gets utterly destroyed. After training from Apollo in the same film, Rocky learns some fancy footwork etc., and beats Lang in their rematch via the innovative gambit of ''actually getting out of the way of some of his punches''. This doesn't really seem to stick though: In Rocky IV, he's right back to getting punched in the face for most of the match and the only reason he doesn't lose is...Well, because he's Rocky. And Drago is TheBigBad. His fighting style remains pretty much the same in Rocky V and Rocky Balboa, except in Rocky Balboa, he's so far down the DentedIron path that all his training is based around strength work, no speed work at all.
25th Dec '14 1:42:11 AM UncleBubba
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** If I may, human head and facial hair grows at a rate of about six inches a year. Thickness of the hair affects how it looks as it grows, making some seem to grow beards faster than others.
6th May '14 8:03:53 AM sweetlu666
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* Remember Paulie's robot from ''Rocky IV'', which he got from Rocky as a birthday present? It was able to give coherent responses and could process what it saw. How exactly did Rocky's suppliers pull off this level of artificial intelligence?

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* Remember Paulie's robot from ''Rocky IV'', which he got from Rocky as a birthday present? It was able to give coherent responses and could process what it saw. How exactly did Rocky's suppliers pull off this level of artificial intelligence?intelligence?
* Rocky V: I get that Rocky's accountant stole all his money and left him penniless and his injuries forced him to retire, but we are still talking about (in-universe) the most popular athlete in the world (and probably the most popular person alive). All he would need to do is make a couple appearances and autograph sessions and he should be well on his way to recouping his lost fortune.
1st May '14 1:20:06 PM MaxWest
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* Whats with the timeline? ''Rocky'' is mostly set in 1975, with the fight taking place on New Year's Day 1976. ''Rocky II'' is set throughout 1976 with the fight on Thanksgiving. ''Rocky III'' is said in dialog to take place three years after ''II'' but Mickey's grave says it's 1981, a five year gap ''Rocky II.'' ''Rocky IV'' appears to start directly after ''III'', with Rocky driving home from his sparring match with Apollo. But Adrian says Apollo had been retired for five years, which either backs up the date on Mickey's grave or means the movie is two years after ''III.'' Things are confused further when Rocky's license plate says it's 1985. Then immediately after ''IV'' ''Rocky V'' starts and Robert is suddenly a teenager, even though he could only be five years old maximum.

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* Whats with the timeline? ''Rocky'' is mostly set in 1975, with the fight taking place on New Year's Day 1976. ''Rocky II'' is set throughout 1976 with the fight on Thanksgiving. ''Rocky III'' is said in dialog to take place three years after ''II'' but Mickey's grave says it's 1981, a five year gap ''Rocky II.'' ''Rocky IV'' appears to start directly after ''III'', with Rocky driving home from his sparring match with Apollo. But Adrian says Apollo had been retired for five years, which either backs up the date on Mickey's grave or means the movie is two years after ''III.'' Things are confused further when Rocky's license plate says it's 1985. Then immediately after ''IV'' ''Rocky V'' starts and Robert is suddenly a teenager, even though he could only be five years old maximum.maximum.
* Remember Paulie's robot from ''Rocky IV'', which he got from Rocky as a birthday present? It was able to give coherent responses and could process what it saw. How exactly did Rocky's suppliers pull off this level of artificial intelligence?
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