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*** Exactly. Aside from what the network or the FCC will allow on the air, he's a minor character to begin with; there's too much going on overall to develop a guy who's going to be dead in three episodes anyway. Besides, he may very well be molesting the children in his war band (or raiding other communities for ''their'' kids). As for why he has a wife, his tastes may be toward AnythingThatMoves (or in her case, [[{{Squick}} doesn't move much]]). As they say in Texas, "he needed killin'", even at the hands of the BigBad Patriots.

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*** Exactly. Aside from what the network or the FCC will allow on the air, he's a minor character to begin with; there's too much going on overall to develop a guy who's going to be dead in three episodes anyway. Besides, he may very well be molesting the children in his war band (or raiding other communities for ''their'' kids). As for why he has a wife, his tastes may be toward AnythingThatMoves just about anyone (or in her case, [[{{Squick}} doesn't move much]]). As they say in Texas, "he needed killin'", even at the hands of the BigBad Patriots.
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** They said he was the number two man in the Republic. They said he trained the militia. Now i understand that only maybe 10% of the militia actually met him, but that is waaayyy more than enough. Maybe if in another episode Monroe says that he knew where he was and didn't care, i'll buy that, but there's no way one of the most recognizable faces in Monroe's republic [[spoiler: tended bar]] and didn't get noticed.
** Anyone who joined up/was conscripted after [[spoiler: Miles left]] wouldn't know who he was, or have had any contact with him. And Chicago looks to have reverted to a frontier-town 'ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies' mentality (think of Mos Eisley in ''StarWars''). In any case it doesn't appear that Bass has really been looking for him all that hard (a few 'Wanted' posters could have set things up a little better).

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** They said he was the number two man in the Republic. They said he trained the militia. Now i I understand that only maybe 10% of the militia actually met him, but that is waaayyy more than enough. Maybe if in another episode Monroe says that he knew where he was and didn't care, i'll I'll buy that, but there's no way one of the most recognizable faces in Monroe's republic [[spoiler: tended bar]] and didn't get noticed.
** Anyone who joined up/was conscripted after [[spoiler: Miles left]] wouldn't know who he was, or have had any contact with him. And Chicago looks to have reverted to a frontier-town 'ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies' mentality (think of Mos Eisley in ''StarWars'').''Franchise/StarWars''). In any case it doesn't appear that Bass has really been looking for him all that hard (a few 'Wanted' posters could have set things up a little better).
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* I assume they didn't kill them all everywhere anyway, ......I mean I hope they did'nt have several main characters die off screen.

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* I assume they didn't kill them all everywhere anyway, ......I mean I hope they did'nt didn't have several main characters die off screen.
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So glow plug alternative, chemical heating or friction heating. You'll need some other source of energy on-board, and the fuel it requires. For any sustainable quality engine lasting more than a few hundred hours, high quality and high tech knowledge and materials are needed. An electronic governor alternative, an mechanical governor. Not so high tech or hard actually. Electronic fuel injection alternative, carburetor. Easy non-high tech. Electric starter alternative, compressed air starter, Really big gears and a strong human or horse to hand crank, and the time necessary (don't stall, good luck to you in battle). The diesel engine you can build in early industrial age would not take kindly to being jostled to exposed to the elements. It would require a huge investment in time, resources, knowledge, and skill to build _and maintain_, but would work. Now you need the oil and refinery to make diesel fuel. Lots of impracticality. Oh ya, forget the crud oil, use vegetable oil, right? Oh think again, vegetable oils are acidic and detergent. Acidity going is going to eat away your non-metal parts very quickly. In modern diesels, critical non-metal parts are fairly isolated from the fuel and the ones that will fail due to exposure will last as long any other parts that will eventually require a re-build or scrapping of the engine, including the metal parts. Fuel lines, pumps, and filters take a punishment though, even in modern engines. A non-modern early industrial engine will have many exposed non-metal parts, or many precision-manufactured alternatives. It just got more high-tech and high-quality. The detergent nature of vegetable oils actually adds huge advantages such as keeping every little internal bit of the entire machine from gas-cap to exhaust eat-off-it squeaky clean, IF YOU USE ABSOLUTELY PURE FUEL. Any impurities introduced to the fuel or carburetor will physically and chemically grind their way through from gas-cap to exhaust. Cylinders will be first to fail for both the acidity and impurity problems. Effects can be mitigated a bit by using large cylinders and less of them, which means to engine is bigger, heavier, and less powerful simply for you cylinders to last as long as the other parts of the failing engine, which will be fairly quickly due to all of the aforementioned problems. OH, by the way, impurities include the glycerin naturally present in vegetable or H2O, which _must_ be introduced to vegetable oil to remove the glycerin and other impurities. H2O is difficult to completely remove from the processed vegetable oil in a modern high-tech electricity-rich world. In an early industrial non-electric world, forget it, water will quickly kill your engine. Now, stack the required resources against the payoff to anyone in the post-blackout world. I think you'll find steam pays-off better in any role.

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So glow plug alternative, chemical heating or friction heating. You'll need some other source of energy on-board, and the fuel it requires. For any sustainable quality engine lasting more than a few hundred hours, high quality and high tech knowledge and materials are needed. An electronic governor alternative, an mechanical governor. Not so high tech or hard actually. Electronic fuel injection alternative, carburetor. Easy non-high tech. Electric starter alternative, compressed air starter, Really big gears and a strong human or horse to hand crank, and the time necessary (don't stall, good luck to you in battle). The diesel engine you can build in early industrial age would not take kindly to being jostled to exposed to the elements. It would require a huge investment in time, resources, knowledge, and skill to build _and maintain_, but would work. Now you need the oil and refinery to make diesel fuel. Lots of impracticality. Oh ya, forget the crud oil, use vegetable oil, right? Oh think again, vegetable oils are acidic and detergent. Acidity going is going to eat away your non-metal parts very quickly. In modern diesels, critical non-metal parts are fairly isolated from the fuel and the ones that will fail due to exposure will last as long any other parts that will eventually require a re-build or scrapping of the engine, including the metal parts. Fuel lines, pumps, and filters take a punishment though, even in modern engines. A non-modern early industrial engine will have many exposed non-metal parts, or many precision-manufactured alternatives. It just got more high-tech and high-quality. The detergent nature of vegetable oils actually adds huge advantages such as keeping every little internal bit of the entire machine from gas-cap to exhaust eat-off-it squeaky clean, IF YOU USE ABSOLUTELY PURE FUEL. Any impurities introduced to the fuel or carburetor will physically and chemically grind their way through from gas-cap to exhaust. Cylinders will be first to fail for both the acidity and impurity problems. Effects can be mitigated a bit by using large cylinders and less of them, which means to engine is bigger, heavier, and less powerful simply for you cylinders to last as long as the other parts of the failing engine, which will be fairly quickly due to all of the aforementioned problems. OH, by the way, impurities include the glycerin naturally present in vegetable or H2O, H[[subscript:2]]O, which _must_ be introduced to vegetable oil to remove the glycerin and other impurities. H2O H[[subscript:2]]O is difficult to completely remove from the processed vegetable oil in a modern high-tech electricity-rich world. In an early industrial non-electric world, forget it, water will quickly kill your engine. Now, stack the required resources against the payoff to anyone in the post-blackout world. I think you'll find steam pays-off better in any role.
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*** The pendants appear to invoke the Nanites' original purpose which, as we found out in an early episode, was to act as a cheap plentiful power source. The nanites go from absorbing electricity to supplying it, so long as the amulet is overriding their Absorption command. In other words, [[{{Spaceballs}} they go from suck to blow.]]

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*** The pendants appear to invoke the Nanites' original purpose which, as we found out in an early episode, was to act as a cheap plentiful power source. The nanites go from absorbing electricity to supplying it, so long as the amulet is overriding their Absorption command. In other words, [[{{Spaceballs}} [[Film/{{Spaceballs}} they go from suck to blow.]]
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*** TruthInTelevision: longbows are notoriously hard to learn how to make and use properly and require constant practice and a great deal of upper-body strength. While modern longbows made from composite materials certainly exist, they too are subject to wear over time. If the blackout conditions persist for more than a generation, the traditional English longbow may make a comeback--but that's how long it will take to train a deep enough pool of people to make them effective in a massed fight and to ensure the skill sets for making and using longbows are preserved. ''{{Emberverse}}'' benefitted from having a master longbow craftsman present among the main group of survivors the initial series focused on, who in turn was able to train a cadre, which trained everyone else. Even at that, it took most of a decade for this group to field a sizeable longbow-equipped army. If such a person existed in the Monroe Republic, Monroe probably either recruited or assassinated him to preserve the balance of power. Crossbows by comparison are easier to make and use, at the cost of range and rate of fire, which is why everyone else outside of England adopted them during the medieval period. Also, for a population that's used to the concept of aiming and firing a gun, the crossbow is a more natural progression than any other kind of bow.

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*** TruthInTelevision: longbows are notoriously hard to learn how to make and use properly and require constant practice and a great deal of upper-body strength. While modern longbows made from composite materials certainly exist, they too are subject to wear over time. If the blackout conditions persist for more than a generation, the traditional English longbow may make a comeback--but that's how long it will take to train a deep enough pool of people to make them effective in a massed fight and to ensure the skill sets for making and using longbows are preserved. ''{{Emberverse}}'' ''Literature/{{Emberverse}}'' benefitted from having a master longbow craftsman present among the main group of survivors the initial series focused on, who in turn was able to train a cadre, which trained everyone else. Even at that, it took most of a decade for this group to field a sizeable longbow-equipped army. If such a person existed in the Monroe Republic, Monroe probably either recruited or assassinated him to preserve the balance of power. Crossbows by comparison are easier to make and use, at the cost of range and rate of fire, which is why everyone else outside of England adopted them during the medieval period. Also, for a population that's used to the concept of aiming and firing a gun, the crossbow is a more natural progression than any other kind of bow.



* Why is the wasteland even a wasteland? The area around Salt Lake City should be very well-organized, given the Mormon emphasis upon disaster preparedness and family ties (this area figures prominently in ''{{Emberverse}}'' for exactly those reasons, and this setting isn't nearly as restricted). I would expect an LDS-controlled enclave somewhere around Salt Lake (and probably extending farther than that). Much of Arizona is hell on earth without climate control but it's not completely uninhabitable or unorganizeable or else it would never have been settled in the first place. If nothing else, California probably would have conquered Phoenix and Tucson out of spite (or, more likely, set up puppet buffer states). Likewise, Texas should extend at least as far west as Albuquerque and Santa Fe (this was an historical goal of Texas at least through the Civil War--control of trade routes almost the entire length of the Rio Grande. The blackout conditions would make this a priority again). If this hasn't happened it's because someone has set up a New Mexico-based enclave powerful enough to hold Texas to within its very arbitrarily-drawn state line to the west. Additionally, there are well-organized Native American communities including the Navajo Nation, the nation's largest Indian reservation (in the Four Corners region where Utah, New Mexico, Colorado, and Arizona meet) and home to the second-largest tribe in the nation. The Apache are similarly situated in southern Arizona extending into Mexico. And Denver is almost a secondary capitol of the United States--some sort of faction should have grown up in Colorado as a result. Did the producers just get lazy, [[FlyoverCountry figuring nobody would notice]], or does the Monroe Republic simply not have intelligence about this region?

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* Why is the wasteland even a wasteland? The area around Salt Lake City should be very well-organized, given the Mormon emphasis upon disaster preparedness and family ties (this area figures prominently in ''{{Emberverse}}'' ''Literature/{{Emberverse}}'' for exactly those reasons, and this setting isn't nearly as restricted). I would expect an LDS-controlled enclave somewhere around Salt Lake (and probably extending farther than that). Much of Arizona is hell on earth without climate control but it's not completely uninhabitable or unorganizeable or else it would never have been settled in the first place. If nothing else, California probably would have conquered Phoenix and Tucson out of spite (or, more likely, set up puppet buffer states). Likewise, Texas should extend at least as far west as Albuquerque and Santa Fe (this was an historical goal of Texas at least through the Civil War--control of trade routes almost the entire length of the Rio Grande. The blackout conditions would make this a priority again). If this hasn't happened it's because someone has set up a New Mexico-based enclave powerful enough to hold Texas to within its very arbitrarily-drawn state line to the west. Additionally, there are well-organized Native American communities including the Navajo Nation, the nation's largest Indian reservation (in the Four Corners region where Utah, New Mexico, Colorado, and Arizona meet) and home to the second-largest tribe in the nation. The Apache are similarly situated in southern Arizona extending into Mexico. And Denver is almost a secondary capitol of the United States--some sort of faction should have grown up in Colorado as a result. Did the producers just get lazy, [[FlyoverCountry figuring nobody would notice]], or does the Monroe Republic simply not have intelligence about this region?
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** Better yet, just how old are Miles, Rachel and Monroe? Miles can pass as someone in his 40's just fine, but Rachel and Monroe both look like they're on the younger side of the 40...
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** The first hallucinations made me suspect mold was causing them (LSD and the like). And suffocation induced hallucinations by their nature are not as coherent and become even less so as they get worse. So ya, Aaron is doctorate degree smart and life experience dumb.
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** I'd have to agree with the nondescript theory. Oldsmobiles are generally plain and unremarkable so as not to attract the attention of anyone for any reason except perhaps a fellow (and former owner) owner. Even if spotted by some evil armed force of bystandards, there's nothing about the vehicle that calls out "this car is loaded with things you want" (other than electrical power, which would require a moments thought about what to do about that, harming the vehicle not being an instantly attractive prospect). The Cutlass Ciera is the best selling 'olds, thus the most common among the unremarkable brand and the most likely 'olds to still be around post blackout. Also, bass would choose a Humvee, tank, or a limo or other remarkable passenger vehicle. Thus an unremarkable _civilian_ vehicle is sure to get his attention before provoking an attack.
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** Blimps and hot air balloons make hard to miss target. They were used from the civil war until world war 2 in various roles but continuously reveal themselves as a fragile tool and eventually decided to have not enough advantages to outweigh their venerability.
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** The original intent was to harness the Casimir effect to provide free electricity anywhere within earth's atmosphere.

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* So they have a locomotive they've gotten up and running. Where has it been for 15 years? How did they get it onto the track? Who cleared and inspected the over ''500 miles of tracks'' through and around several major cities between Indiana and Philadelphia?

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* So they have a locomotive they've gotten up and running. Where has it been for 15 years? How did they get it onto the track? Who cleared and inspected the over ''500 miles of tracks'' through and around several major cities between Indiana and Philadelphia? Philadelphia?
** Drag it like they do with the helicopters. Granted, it is a much heavier load but its doable with enough prisoners and soldiers. But to tremendously reduce the power needed to drag it, it could be done by laying temporary track. And, no need to operate it on track. As it rolls over the temporary track, the temporary track behind can be dismantled and rebuilt in front of it. Temporary track only needs to take the weight for a little while, not survive weather, not survive 75mph traffic of long trains for years, it doesn't take too much to make suitable temporary track, just a nearly flat area that will stand up to the weight for a short time, not at wide as safety and maintenance requires for permanent track, no gravel bed, much fewer ties. This can be jury-rigged to bypass all sorts problems that do not apply to permanent track. Look up the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_Big_Boy Union Pacific Big Boy]] for information about a recent jury-rigged temporary rail move such as this.
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** The issue of Maggie getting back to her kids changes over time. Mainly, she wants to go to England to find her kids before something awful happens to them. Initially, ships were beginning to be dismantled at a time when there was no infrastructure to trade in large amounts of food. The first capable infrastructure was the militia which had no interest in feeding a populace that might rise against against it. And the militia had other used for the ships so finished the job of re-purposing the remaining ships. By the time shes at a port, the deep sea worthy vessels are all dismantled. She reasons that it was too late to save her child years before that point anyhow and gives up on life. Her suicide attempt was interrupted by a second chance at life that has not effect on her original reasoning into despair and actually conflicts with all issues that arise if she rethinks her original reasoning (she'd be considering abandoning the family that saved her life and needs her in favor of a family that is most likely dead). So even though there's eventually deep sea vessels in the world, Maggie won't be going.
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** EXACTLY! No outsider is gonna be that stupid. Anybody who tattoo themselves has got to be the real deal. This is not without historical precedent. The secret society Pythagoreans marked the palms of their hands so they could prove themselves safe to each other when having never previous. Their PALMS! That's way more difficult to hide.
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** This gives us a clue to possible pseudo scientific explanation of the workings of the [[spoiler:electricity suppressing nanobots]]. Electricity does not happen then gets suppressed, it must be prevented before it can start. On an atomic, sub-atomic or even quantum level. So, capacitors, batteries, lightning, would keep their charge _perfectly_, I don't mean ginsu knife edge perfectly or even unhindered neutrino perfectly, I mean _perfectly_, _perfectly!_. The moment they were unsuppressed, they continue their discharge as if nothing had happened. Battery-backed memory would not be erased. All those cars, provided nothing in them had been dismantled, would have their lights turn on. Their solenoids would discharge and spark plugs would fire, many engines engines would start. Bear in mind, nothing is _corroded_. Rusted sure, but corrosion is an electrical process. Expected rust for electric things would be much slower that expected as well, since electricity can speed rust (rather, electric things would rust naturally as fast as non-electric things ). Generators wired to fire when grid-power was lost would most certainly fire. Ones that were running at the time would fire their spark plugs and possible start. Anything battery powered and not switch-off post-blackout would be on (note, a gameboy on during blackout could be switched on and off many times post-blackout, but would continue to be on running its game if it was on at the time of the surge). Power plants? Coal plants, no-way. I wonder (other but related issue) if nuclear plants would have melted down. The alternative is a fail safe reaction crash, these plants would not fire up after. Windmills, Solar panel, hydro, they'd through current into wires if they were still intact. Wires are big problem, all the telephone wires still intact? This is a big no-way fail for scientific accuracy. Yes, many thing around the world would power on. But the shows writers reached way to far having grid connected things turn back on.

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*** Diesel would not have to be replaced; just modified with early 20th century fuel injection systems. One of the reasons the U.S. military relies on diesel-powered machines is that they could still work, after a few minor modifications, after an EMP from a nearby nuclear blast.

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*** Diesel would not have to be replaced; just modified with early 20th century fuel injection systems. One of the reasons the U.S. military relies on diesel-powered machines is that they could still work, after a few minor modifications, after an EMP from a nearby nuclear blast. An EMP fries and suppresses electricity for a moment. In the post-blackout would, electricity is continuously suppressed. Any electronics that were completely isolated from electricity producing components at the time of an EMP will fire up fine afterwards. Note isolation includes from charged capacitors, batteries, generators, transformers, certain light bulbs, and other more exotic components, anything that will produce electric or have its electricity altered by introduction of a strong magnetic force. BTW, hard drives and floppy disks will be erased if plugged in or not. Also, an EMP will induce current in all the telephone wires so anything plugged in will be fried even if switched completely off at the time. If it has a coil of wire inside (a transformer), it'll be fried even unplugged in a vacuum inside a lead box. But after that, electricity will continue to work. Electric starters have a coil, they'll fry. Everything attached to the starter will fry (battery, thus everything electric). Further down is a listing of all the diesel components dependent on electricity that would have to be 'replaced' post-blackout. In short, no modern diesel engine could be modified for post-blackout. You must start with an older engine, or from scratch. To much of the modern design depends on electricity.


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** All modern ICEs use electricity. Diesel engines require the glow plug to be heated and remain heated both of which are done with electricity. Starting is the most important time. But the glowplug must remain heated during operation and the combustion process is not that reliable for doing so (expect your non-battery tank to stall frequently, good luck to you in battle). They use an electronic governor. They use electronic fuel injection. They use electric starters.
So glow plug alternative, chemical heating or friction heating. You'll need some other source of energy on-board, and the fuel it requires. For any sustainable quality engine lasting more than a few hundred hours, high quality and high tech knowledge and materials are needed. An electronic governor alternative, an mechanical governor. Not so high tech or hard actually. Electronic fuel injection alternative, carburetor. Easy non-high tech. Electric starter alternative, compressed air starter, Really big gears and a strong human or horse to hand crank, and the time necessary (don't stall, good luck to you in battle). The diesel engine you can build in early industrial age would not take kindly to being jostled to exposed to the elements. It would require a huge investment in time, resources, knowledge, and skill to build _and maintain_, but would work. Now you need the oil and refinery to make diesel fuel. Lots of impracticality. Oh ya, forget the crud oil, use vegetable oil, right? Oh think again, vegetable oils are acidic and detergent. Acidity going is going to eat away your non-metal parts very quickly. In modern diesels, critical non-metal parts are fairly isolated from the fuel and the ones that will fail due to exposure will last as long any other parts that will eventually require a re-build or scrapping of the engine, including the metal parts. Fuel lines, pumps, and filters take a punishment though, even in modern engines. A non-modern early industrial engine will have many exposed non-metal parts, or many precision-manufactured alternatives. It just got more high-tech and high-quality. The detergent nature of vegetable oils actually adds huge advantages such as keeping every little internal bit of the entire machine from gas-cap to exhaust eat-off-it squeaky clean, IF YOU USE ABSOLUTELY PURE FUEL. Any impurities introduced to the fuel or carburetor will physically and chemically grind their way through from gas-cap to exhaust. Cylinders will be first to fail for both the acidity and impurity problems. Effects can be mitigated a bit by using large cylinders and less of them, which means to engine is bigger, heavier, and less powerful simply for you cylinders to last as long as the other parts of the failing engine, which will be fairly quickly due to all of the aforementioned problems. OH, by the way, impurities include the glycerin naturally present in vegetable or H2O, which _must_ be introduced to vegetable oil to remove the glycerin and other impurities. H2O is difficult to completely remove from the processed vegetable oil in a modern high-tech electricity-rich world. In an early industrial non-electric world, forget it, water will quickly kill your engine. Now, stack the required resources against the payoff to anyone in the post-blackout world. I think you'll find steam pays-off better in any role.

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**** You know how some fat people use the "I can't help it, its genetic" excuse....yeah, turns out not all of them are useing excuses. This in turn raises the question of how someone with those conditions could last in those conditions

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*** Corn sucks. The only modern breeds of corn that provide decent nutrition are fragile strains that require special care and processing. ultra high carb, low nutrition, fast growing, easy to grow and process strains of corn are the among most likely crops to survive an armageddon. It'll grow hair and nails fast but unhealthy, rot your teeth, and make you fat. Few if any advantages to consuming it would go only to your cannibalistic neighbors.
**** You know how some fat people use the "I can't help it, its genetic" excuse....yeah, turns out not all of them are useing using excuses. This in turn raises the question of how someone with those conditions could last in those conditions
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** _rifled_ Muskets are probably not as in inaccurate as you think and are top-of-the-line early industrial revolution weapons (where technology seems to hover). An average skill musketeer holds a slight advantage over an average skill bowman or cross bowman in most situations. This only reliable way to defeat a group of musketeers is a charging calvary, otherwise unarmed/underarmed musketeers (pikemen almost negate a charging calvary), and after having provoked them all to fire at once. As used in the 'battle of Mathesons's bar' I'll call it, the soldiers there are idiots to bring their muskets non-bayoneted into a close-quarters indoor battle (unless they intended to fire first before discovery). A crossbow, or even a manual bow, or pretty much any thrown weapon makes much more sense. Then they are entirely incompetent to attempt reloading.
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*** Rank and ability would certainly play a role, but also the spoils of war. Soldiers are probably not issued personal firearms or even swords by the militia, rather, it is the responsibility of each soldier to acquire, earn, make/improve and maintain their own weapons. I imagine near the end of reeducation of conscripts there is opportunity to compete for personal weapons. Actions taken in the field would provide more weapons, which a ranking officer on the scene has complete claim too. But, practical concerns for unit performance, rewarding job performance, moral, and such, would encourage officers to let the lower ranks claim personal weapons especially if a soldier had taken it from an enemy he'd killed unless the weapon had significant strategic importance (certain sniper rifles, better automatics, grenades, mines, etc...) However, for certain missions, soldiers would likely be issued better firearms for the duration of a mission. Failure to return a loaner in similar condition would punishable by death (loss, damage, theft no matter who's at fault being equal crimes).
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** Also, I'm a dunce. I forgot about mechanical refrigerators. So at least the 'fridging is taken care of, and as for the production techniques if no electricity is required, then they've got all of Cuba to work with.
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** And it looks like the FridgeBrilliance is confirmed, by looking at this [[http://i.imgur.com/5Ad5A30.jpg map]] that has both pre-Blackout borders and post-Blackout borders: note the different shading of the Mexican part of the expanded-Texas.
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** The question still remains, though, ''when''? From the way Ben and Rachel behaved as the Blackout hit, coupled with the scene involving Grace Beaumont (and later scenes involving Sanborn) it's clear that the pendant-team were trying in some small way to ''keep'' Randall and Davis from getting what they wanted. So it doesn't seem likely to me that the Patriots had pendants right off, but then again it's impossible to explain the drug manufacturing thing without pendants. That being said if they didn't need to do gel electrophoresis, almost all the mechanical methods of actually preparing drugs can be done with steam-driven methods, even pulling a vacuum to hermetically seal a cap over a freshly prepared vial.
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** [[spoiler: In Season 2 the Nanites (via Priscilla) state that they've been 'testing' humans for suitability in their plans, and in fact Miles was so tested and rejected because of the darkness in his mind. If Miles could be rejected on that basis, Dr. Horn certainly would be as well.]]
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** Randall had at least one pendant with him, as he's using an electric cattle prod (and later, an automobile). The Patriots were probably trying to locate those pendants which had slipped beyond their control. They could have had one or more pendants at Guantanamo and used them to power up facilities in Cuba or Puerto Rico (both of which have significant drug manufacturing capacity) to make both the drugs [[spoiler: and the diseases they're using to weaken/kill undesirable populations.]]
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**[[spoiler: Apparently, according to the series finale, it's Bradbury, Idaho, where the Nanites are setting up their move to liberate humanity from TheEvilsOfFreeWill.]]
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*** There could still be a few hundred thousand left. But that's assuming the population loss didn't ''disproportionately'' hit Arab-speakers due to, taking the most optimistic option, demographic shifts as people moved southward into a relatively more stable Mexico with a warmer climate. It would be interesting to see if the show's writers account for this possibility.

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*** There could still be a few hundred thousand left. But that's assuming the population loss didn't ''disproportionately'' hit Arab-speakers due to, taking the most optimistic option, demographic shifts as people moved southward into a relatively more stable Mexico with a warmer climate. It would be interesting to see if the show's writers account for this possibility.the possibility, however, of an Arabic-literate Muslim realizing what the Patriots are doing because he or she has seen those confidential orders.
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*** There could still be a few hundred thousand left. But that's assuming the population loss didn't ''disproportionately'' hit Arab-speakers due to, taking the most optimistic option, demographic shifts as people moved southward into a relatively more stable Mexico with a warmer climate. It would be interesting to see if the show's writers account for this possibility.
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** Which will work until the Patriots reach areas with large pre-blackout Arab populations (Los Angeles, Detroit, New York) and presumably enough surviving native speakers to blow the game.

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** The division is between electricity conducted through metal and electricity conducted through saline solution. So unless you can build a circuit entirely from pipes full of saltwater, and have it do something useful, you're out of luck. One of the few things that meets this criterion is electrolysis, which brings this troper to an idea: if you could electrolyze enough hydrogen, you could fill a balloon with it, float up above the limit of the nanites, and have electricity work (you'd have to make compressed air tanks first, but conveniently, the electrolysis also gives you a bunch of oxygen). You could do a few things with this: make printouts of digital data, or get information (such as running simulations) from computers.




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*** This troper thinks that was just them sending out a signal to all the others by discharging (hence the concern about destroying the world if they ALL discharged at once).
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**Side note: Maggie could have got home without a ship, theoretically. It would have been very dangerous, but she could have gone north into Newfoundland, waited for winter, crossed the Davis Strait to Greenland on the ice, and from there got a ship to Iceland or Britain (they would probably have started whaling up there again). Another plan not dependent on a ship: go west not east, up into Alaska from Seattle, cross the Bering Strait on the ice, and just start walking west. Either of these plans would probably have left her dead from starvation, cold, accident, or homicide before she got halfway, but she could have tried.

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