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** She's Italian according to TheOtherWiki, and on the episode where Spinelli joins the Ashleys after Randall reveals her true first name, she also had a great-grandmother who lived in Alaska and ran the Iditarod. Judging by her eye shape, lip shape, and AmbiguouslyBrown skin tone (which reminds me of the one from that Eskimo hunter on the 1949 Looney Tunes cartoon "Frigid Hare"), she probably could be Inuit (Eskimo) along with being Italian.

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** She's Italian according to TheOtherWiki, Wiki/TheOtherWiki, and on the episode where Spinelli joins the Ashleys after Randall reveals her true first name, she also had a great-grandmother who lived in Alaska and ran the Iditarod. Judging by her eye shape, lip shape, and AmbiguouslyBrown skin tone (which reminds me of the one from that Eskimo hunter on the 1949 Looney Tunes cartoon "Frigid Hare"), she probably could be Inuit (Eskimo) along with being Italian.
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** They both mellowed out considerably by the end of the show. In the first season, they were both sadists who existed just to torment the students. Over time, they became humanized. It may also have to do with ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Since the entire show is framed from a kid's perspective, the writers may have chosen to make the stricter adults into outright jerks. Contrast that with a show like HeyArnold where every adult is given their fair day from the start.
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[[WMG: Why does Randall make fun of Spinelli for wearing a dress in "First Name Ashley"?]]
Doesn't she normally wear one?
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[[WMG: Why was T.J. so intimidated by Slicer?]]
* Having watched the episode recently, T.J. being so quick to be intimidated by Slicer seems more then a little out of character for him(especially since at that point Slicer had no real authority over the school yet, so T.J. was under no obligation to obey him or listen to anything he said) you'd think him and the others would've tried to pull pranks on him to try and get him to leave or something.
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* Wait, where did I have [[HighSchoolMusical heard this similar part before?]]
** What does HighSchoolMusical have to do with anything? Speaking from experience, juniors and seniors in high school do have to worry about their futures. But to the original Headscratcher, I never noticed before how the kids do that.

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* Wait, where did I have [[HighSchoolMusical [[Film/HighSchoolMusical heard this similar part before?]]
** What does HighSchoolMusical ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' have to do with anything? Speaking from experience, juniors and seniors in high school do have to worry about their futures. But to the original Headscratcher, I never noticed before how the kids do that.
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Some examples would be not already seeing through the fact that sometimes it's okay to tell on people, and the fact that she still seems to believe that numbers like a gazillion exist. My only guess is that she's 9, so it's slightly excusable, or she knew the truth all along and, in an effort to fit in more, she just followed [[Main/SwordOfTruth Wizard's First Rule]].

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Some examples would be not already seeing through the fact that sometimes it's okay to tell on people, and the fact that she still seems to believe that numbers like a gazillion exist. My only guess is that she's 9, so it's slightly excusable, or she knew the truth all along and, in an effort to fit in more, she just followed [[Main/SwordOfTruth [[Literature/SwordOfTruth Wizard's First Rule]].
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** I...don't really know (and Naked Mole Rats aren't fantasy elements...[[KimPossible but of course, they don't act like Rufus in real life]]).

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** I...don't really know (and Naked Mole Rats aren't fantasy elements...[[KimPossible [[WesternAnimation/KimPossible but of course, they don't act like Rufus in real life]]).
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** This troper feels that episode shows they're not completely different things her book smarts translate to the street.

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** This troper I feels that episode shows they're not completely different things her book smarts translate to the street.
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* There's also the fact that before the movie was released there was an episode where the Government did an experiment of ''actually cancelling recess'' that resulted in lower test scores in the long term, was he not aware?
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** It isnt that far out, remember the movie revolves around a guy with a giant gravity gun he's using to move the friggin MOON, that sounds like a plot straight out of Kim Possible
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* Its simply because kids today, even during the 90's and early 00's when the movie was made, have a very different and difficult journey to prepare for due to how complicated the world has become. Many parents begin preparing their children in ''preschool'' because they want them to have a bigger chance at getting into prestigious colleges and careers for whcih competition has never been stiffer.
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* In Taking the Fifth Grade, why would the faculty wait to take all the play equipment and pave the lawn on the first day of school, much less when the kids are supposed to be out for recess?
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* The Mayor was {{Jerkass}} and it was clear he was simply jealous that they sucsseded where he failed.


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* The Mayor was {{Jerkass}} and it was clear he was simply jealous that they sucsseded succeeded where he failed.




** Not to mention that Recess takes place in the late 90's (the show original air run being 1997-2001). Kids believed in those things back then before they started to wise p at earlier ages.
** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had MySpace/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the.. uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.

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** Not to mention that Recess takes place in the late 90's (the show show's original air run being 1997-2001). Kids believed in those things back then before they started to wise p up at earlier ages.
** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had MySpace/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the.. the...uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.



** As for the bus driver, it's possible she genially doesn't remember his name since he has only just started.

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** As for the bus driver, it's possible she genially genuinely doesn't remember his name since he has only just started.



** I...don't really know (And Naked Mole Rats aren't fantasy elements...[[KimPossible but of course, they don't act like Rufus in real life]]).
** If recess takes place in the same world as Lilo and Stitch it takes place in a world where earth is a mosquito preserve and Hawaii has a decent number of genetic experiments. Seeing recess as taking place in a universe with all the crosovers in Lilo and Stitch has some awesome potential the kids having a future in a world even cooler than they believe it is now but is not nescasary for it taking place in the Lilo and Stitch universe. You can just pretend the other crossovers didn't happen, happened differently, and/or the people in the crossovers are similar but entierly different people who live in a different universe than the series they are from. If recess does not take place in the same universe as Lilo and Stitch either the crossover is only Lilo and Stitch canon but not recess canon or the kids in the Lilo and Stitch crossover are just simular to TJ and his group.
* Also related to the above. Recess seemed like a poor series to be crossed over with. Kim Possible and American Dragon have fantasy topics but Recess seemed fairly realistic. Plus Recess takes place in 97 and 98. Kim Possible and American Dragon are ''so'' not 90s, and Proud Family is more like New Millennium.

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** I...don't really know (And (and Naked Mole Rats aren't fantasy elements...[[KimPossible but of course, they don't act like Rufus in real life]]).
** If recess Recess takes place in the same world as Lilo and Stitch it takes place in a world where earth is a mosquito preserve and Hawaii has a decent number of genetic experiments. Seeing recess Recess as taking place in a universe with all the crosovers crossovers in Lilo and Stitch has some awesome potential - the kids having a future in a world even cooler than they believe it is now - but is not nescasary necessary for it taking place in the Lilo and Stitch universe. You can just pretend the other crossovers didn't happen, happened differently, and/or the people in the crossovers are similar but entierly entirely different people who live in a different universe than the series they are from. If recess Recess does not take place in the same universe as Lilo and Stitch either the crossover is only Lilo and Stitch canon but not recess Recess canon or the kids in the Lilo and Stitch crossover are just simular similar to TJ T.J. and his group.
* Also related to the above. Recess seemed like a poor series to be crossed over with. Kim Possible and American Dragon have fantasy topics but Recess seemed fairly realistic. Plus Recess takes place in 97 '97 and 98.'98. Kim Possible and American Dragon are ''so'' not 90s, and Proud Family is more like New Millennium.
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* Prickly and Finster seem to follow the out-of-touch teacher archetype. They used to genuinly love teaching and wanted to help children, but over the years they've become cynical and forgot why they ever wanted to go into teaching in the first place. Plus the show is very inconsistent with their levels of villainy. Sometimes Finster is just strict for a playground monitor and Prickly an ineffective principal, other times they want to ban recess and hate the idea of children having fun. It changes depending on the needs of the plot.

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* Prickly and Finster seem to follow the out-of-touch teacher archetype. They used to genuinly genuinely love teaching and wanted to help children, but over the years they've become cynical and forgot why they ever wanted to go into teaching in the first place. Plus the show is very inconsistent with their levels of villainy. Sometimes Finster is just strict for a playground monitor and Prickly an ineffective principal, other times they want to ban recess and hate the idea of children having fun. It changes depending on the needs of the plot.

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----* Also related to the above. Recess seemed like a poor series to be crossed over with. Kim Possible and American Dragon have fantasy topics but Recess seemed fairly realistic. Plus Recess takes place in 97 and 98. Kim Possible and American Dragon are ''so'' not 90s, and Proud Family is more like New Millennium.
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** If recess takes place in the same world as Lilo and Stitch it takes place in a world where earth is a mosquito preserve and Hawaii has a decent number of genetic experiments. Seeing recess as taking place in a universe with all the crosovers in Lilo and Stitch has some awsome potential the kids having a future in a world even cooler than they believe it is now but is not nescasary for it taking place in the Lilo and Stitch universe.

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** If recess takes place in the same world as Lilo and Stitch it takes place in a world where earth is a mosquito preserve and Hawaii has a decent number of genetic experiments. Seeing recess as taking place in a universe with all the crosovers in Lilo and Stitch has some awsome awesome potential the kids having a future in a world even cooler than they believe it is now but is not nescasary for it taking place in the Lilo and Stitch universe.universe. You can just pretend the other crossovers didn't happen, happened differently, and/or the people in the crossovers are similar but entierly different people who live in a different universe than the series they are from. If recess does not take place in the same universe as Lilo and Stitch either the crossover is only Lilo and Stitch canon but not recess canon or the kids in the Lilo and Stitch crossover are just simular to TJ and his group.
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** If recess takes place in the same world as Lilo and Stitch it takes place in a world where earth is a mosquito preserve and Hawaii has a decent number of genetic experiments. Seeing recess as taking place in a universe with all the crosovers in Lilo and Stitch has some awsome potential the kids having a future in a world even cooler than they believe it is now but is not nescasary for it taking place in the Lilo and Stitch universe.
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* Prickly and Finster seem to follow the out-of-touch teacher archetype. They used to genuinly love teaching and wanted to help children, but over the years they've become cynical and forgot why they ever wanted to go into teaching in the first place. Plus the show is very inconsistent with their levels of villainy. Sometimes Finster is just strict for a playground monitor and Prickly an ineffective principal, other times they want to ban recess and hate the idea of children having fun. It changes depending on the needs of the plot.
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* I always thought that was [[RuleOfFunny part of the whole joke.]]

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As for my edit of another tropers statement, I did it since the only thing that was stated was that the whole show (and movies) took place over one school year (with taking the 5th Grade obviously being the next year). It didn\'t need to be stated that it took place in the 90\'s since that is when the show was aired












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** What has kids starting puberty earlier got to do with worrying about the future? As to the original headscratcher, teachers do ask 10 year old children to try and figure out what they want to do with their lives so they can prepare for it easier now whilst they are young?




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* You have to remember two things. Firstly, this was made in the late 90's, a time where parallel dimensions was still considered mostly science fiction. And secondly, parallel dimensions haven't been proven yet. Whilst scientists do believe they exist, at this moment in time, there is no proof of them. So Gretchen was acting perfectly logical in dismissing the idea.



** Not to mention it's been stated that Recess takes place in the 90s somewhere. Kids believed in those things back then before they started to wise p at earlier ages.
*** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had MySpace/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the.. uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.

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** Not to mention it's been stated that Recess takes place in the 90s somewhere.late 90's (the show original air run being 1997-2001). Kids believed in those things back then before they started to wise p at earlier ages.
*** ** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had MySpace/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the.. uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.information.
** As for the kissing thing, it wasn't so much that they didn't know what kissing was, it was a more "cooties" thing in that they didn't know why people would like doing it.


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** As for the bus driver, it's possible she genially doesn't remember his name since he has only just started.
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** I...don't really know.

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** I...don't really know.know (And Naked Mole Rats aren't fantasy elements...[[KimPossible but of course, they don't act like Rufus in real life]]).

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* If Recess co-exists in the same world as "Lilo and Stitch" the series, does that mean the realistic 3rd Street School students co-exist with fantasy elements like Aliens, Dragons, Naked Mole Rats, and a wish granting Al Roker?

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**Probably for three reasons. First, in the first season of the show, it was a bit more exaggerated. Second, Gus might've been imagining that. And three, Miss Grotke's character probably wasn't really set up yet.
* If Recess co-exists in the same world as "Lilo and Stitch" the series, does that mean the realistic 3rd Street School students co-exist with fantasy elements like Aliens, Dragons, Naked Mole Rats, and a wish granting Al Roker? Roker?
**I...don't really know.

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*** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had MySpace/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the.. uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.

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*** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had MySpace/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the.. uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information. information.
* This Troper was watching the episode where Gus was introduced. Now the kids have the reason to refer to Gus as "the new kid" due to the rules of the playground but why was the bus driver and even Ms. Grotke calling Gus "the new kid"? The rules only apply to the kids because they don't know any better but why would the ones who know better like Grotke also join in hazing Gus?
* If Recess co-exists in the same world as "Lilo and Stitch" the series, does that mean the realistic 3rd Street School students co-exist with fantasy elements like Aliens, Dragons, Naked Mole Rats, and a wish granting Al Roker?

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They have no legitimate concept of kissing or aging, and believe odd stuff. I know this is an exaggerated version of childhood innocence, but seriously? They just seem stupid and overly naive.

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They *They have no legitimate concept of kissing or aging, and believe odd stuff. I know this is an exaggerated version of childhood innocence, but seriously? They just seem stupid and overly naive.



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*** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had MySpace/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the.. uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.
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* The Mayor was {{Jerkass}} and it was clear he was simply trying to make examples out of the kids.


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** They're only nine years old. At that age, few kids have a legitimate concept of kissing.

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* Not to mention that it's been said that some playground kings of the past have vastly improved recess for the kids. Some of the kings weren't just your [[TheChosenOne average sixth graders]].


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** Not to mention it's been stated that Recess takes place in the 90s somewhere. Kids believed in those things back then before they started to wise p at earlier ages.
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* Because they're ''kids.'' Even though it's over-exaggerated for [[RuleOfFunny comedy's]] sake in real life, kids literally do have a "Follow the pact" mentality that they rarely question in fear of being the outsider.

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* Because they're ''kids.'' Even though it's over-exaggerated for [[RuleOfFunny comedy's]] sake sake, in real life, kids literally do have a "Follow "follow the pact" pack" mentality that they rarely question in fear of being the outsider.



* Same reason we have a democracy and follow the Constitution- it's been that way for years and things are decent enough this way that we don't need to change it.

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* Same reason we have a democracy and follow the Constitution- Constitution - it's been that way for years and things are decent enough this way that we don't need to change it.it.



* Kindergardeners can act like older kids. They choose not to. Its kind of their last chance to be savages before growing up.

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* Kindergardeners Kindergarteners can act like older kids. They choose not to. Its It's kind of their last chance to be savages before growing up.



** It's just the kids being stupid and exaggerating like they always did in the cartoons.

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I realize the idea that Swinger Girl broke through a dimensional barrier is ridiculous but Gretchen(and the rest of the main cased except Mikey) seemed to act as if there is no such thing as an (AlternateDimension). it's especially jarring for Gretchen as she is privy to everything science related and I though stuff like this is actually taken seriously by the scientific community.

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** It's just the kids being stupid and exaggerating like they always did in the cartoons.


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