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12th Dec '15 7:47:42 PM kundoo
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**** It was not a "minor incident", it was probably the first or maybe even the only time Aggie saw Melody so freaked out. She would've forgot the tiger episode if anyone else resqued her calmly, but it happened to be her mom who as a result got really emotional when little Aggie didn't expect it. Moments like this actually tend to stick in one's memory. OTOH chidrend usually not very insightfull, so the "never leave me" part is not about Melody being flawed, but about little child misinterpreting her mom's words. While Melody was understandably scared for her child, little Aggie didn't get it then and assumed that was an actuall demand to always stay with mom. In her dream she finally sorted this out and got over it.\\

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**** It was not a "minor incident", it was probably the first or maybe even the only time Aggie saw Melody so freaked out. She would've forgot the tiger episode if anyone else resqued her calmly, but it happened to be her mom who as a result got really emotional when little Aggie didn't expect it. Moments like this actually tend to stick in one's memory. OTOH chidrend Children usually are not very insightfull, so the "never leave me" part is not about Melody being flawed, but about little child misinterpreting her mom's words. While Melody was understandably scared for her child, little Aggie didn't get it then and assumed that was an actuall demand to always stay with mom. In her dream she finally sorted this out and got over it.\\
12th Dec '15 7:46:28 PM kundoo
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**** It was not a "minor incident", it was probably the first or maybe even the only time Aggie saw Melody so freaked out. She would've forget the tiger episode if anyone else resqued her calmly, but it was her mom and she got really emotional when little Aggie didn't expect it. Moments like this actually tend to stick in one's memory. OTOH chidrend usually not very insightfull, so the "never leave me" part is not about Melody being flawed, but about little child misinterpreting her mom's words. While Melody was understandably scared for her child, little Aggie didn't get it then and assumed that was an actuall demand to always stay with mom. In her dream she finally sorted this out and got over it.\\

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**** It was not a "minor incident", it was probably the first or maybe even the only time Aggie saw Melody so freaked out. She would've forget forgot the tiger episode if anyone else resqued her calmly, but it was happened to be her mom and she who as a result got really emotional when little Aggie didn't expect it. Moments like this actually tend to stick in one's memory. OTOH chidrend usually not very insightfull, so the "never leave me" part is not about Melody being flawed, but about little child misinterpreting her mom's words. While Melody was understandably scared for her child, little Aggie didn't get it then and assumed that was an actuall demand to always stay with mom. In her dream she finally sorted this out and got over it.\\
12th Dec '15 7:45:14 PM kundoo
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**** It was not a "minor incident", it was probably the first or maybe even the only time Aggie saw Melody so freaked out.
She would've forget the tiger episode if anyone else resqued her calmly, but it was her mom and she got really emotional when little Aggie didn't expect it. Moments like this actually tend to stick in one's memory. OTOH chidrend usually not very insightfull, so the "never leave me" part is not about Melody being flawed, but about little child misinterpreting her mom's words. While Melody was understandably scared for her child, little Aggie didn't get it then and assumed that was an actuall demand to always stay with mom. In her dream she finally sorted this out and got over it.

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**** It was not a "minor incident", it was probably the first or maybe even the only time Aggie saw Melody so freaked out.
out. She would've forget the tiger episode if anyone else resqued her calmly, but it was her mom and she got really emotional when little Aggie didn't expect it. Moments like this actually tend to stick in one's memory. OTOH chidrend usually not very insightfull, so the "never leave me" part is not about Melody being flawed, but about little child misinterpreting her mom's words. While Melody was understandably scared for her child, little Aggie didn't get it then and assumed that was an actuall demand to always stay with mom. In her dream she finally sorted this out and got over it.\\
12th Dec '15 7:44:19 PM kundoo
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**** It was not a "minor incident", it was probably the first or maybe even the only time Aggie saw Melody so freaked out.
She would've forget the tiger episode if anyone else resqued her calmly, but it was her mom and she got really emotional when little Aggie didn't expect it. Moments like this actually tend to stick in one's memory. OTOH chidrend usually not very insightfull, so the "never leave me" part is not about Melody being flawed, but about little child misinterpreting her mom's words. While Melody was understandably scared for her child, little Aggie didn't get it then and assumed that was an actuall demand to always stay with mom. In her dream she finally sorted this out and got over it.
12th Jun '12 3:37:19 AM SeptimusHeap
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*** I see your point with regard to your last two sentences. No question, it's inescapable that nearly all the main characters are now revealed to be, or possibly to be, gay or bi, and I can see how that tilting of the scales would seem unlikely or unrealistic to some, given that, as easy as it is to forget in modern-day Fandomland, the majority of people are straight. It's really a question of how much, well, "it just bugs" the reader. In my case, not much at all, but YourMileageMayVary.

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*** I see your point with regard to your last two sentences. No question, it's inescapable that nearly all the main characters are now revealed to be, or possibly to be, gay or bi, and I can see how that tilting of the scales would seem unlikely or unrealistic to some, given that, as easy as it is to forget in modern-day Fandomland, the majority of people are straight. It's really a question of how much, well, "it just bugs" the reader. In my case, not much at all, but YourMileageMayVary.all.
7th Aug '11 4:43:10 AM SorataYuy
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**** The things that happen to us when we're so young are the things that shape us far more than we realize. I [[SorataYuy myself]], when about 6, was highly energetic but kept getting into trouble because I didn't think about things (what 6 year old does, I ask you.) People kept saying how "bad" I was, and for the next 11 years, without even knowing it, I held a quiet but determined thought inside that drove me to behaviors I normally wouldn't have done otherwise: "Fine. I'm so bad? You'll see bad..." Aggie probably didn't even consciously remember this promise, just stuck to what it meant to her emotionally.
4th Aug '11 10:14:11 PM Blunderbuss
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*** Oh, I agree that's what the intended message was. But the whole arc was about Aggie desperately clinging to her mother because of a 'promise' when really, no 4-5 year old would take such a moment with such deadly seriousness. If Melody died maybe a year or two later, maybe Aggie would feel that way as a child, but Aggie grew up to be a young teenager before Melody died. Who in the world takes a minor incident that happened to them as a kid and holds onto it for nearly a decade?\\
As for whether or not it's the 'real' Melody, the strip has flirted with supernatural/odd things, as seen in the 20/20 Pennies. In any case, the way Melody acts doesn't seem like she's just a figment of Aggie's subconscious - she acts like a realistic mother (complete with swearing!) instead of the idealsed saint Aggie sees her as. After all, why would Aggie think her mother was being 'cruel' with her freak-out?
18th Jul '11 2:06:43 PM AliceMacher
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** Good points. However, I think it depends on whether the Melody who appears in Aggie's dream is the "real" Melody, speaking to her daughter from beyond the Veil, or an aspect of Aggie's own unconscious. Given that the comic otherwise has avoided any supernatural or fantastic elements, I'd guess it's the latter. So the "I should never have told her not to leave me" bit, then, shouldn't be pinned on the "real" Melody, anymore than the "Hey, if only you were dead your father and I could boink again" bit should be pinned on the "real" Charisma (whom Aggie had barely met, and when she did, she saw her at her absolute worst). And in any case, I took the point of "The Lady and the Tiger" to be not "Don't wallow in grief over me and want to join me in death, because I was wrong to freak out over your almost dying, and thus I'm flawed," but rather "Don't wallow (etc.) because I would've wanted you to honour my legacy by ''living'', and enjoying life."
14th May '11 9:08:45 AM Blunderbuss
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* The whole 'The Lady And The Tiger' arc. Its main purpose is dealing with Aggie's guilt about being alive while her mother is dead; that's a perfectly normal reaction to have when you're trying to live without someone. But the story acts like Melody's perfectly justified freak-out about Aggie ''jumping in a tiger cage'' was an act of parental 'cruelty' that warped Aggie into always thinking of her mother 24/7 until it was impacting her life. For god's sake, who wouldn't clutch their little girl to their chest and never want them to leave after they tried to play with a tiger? And how many little kids saw their parents react with frantic worry and believe that they must stay with that parent no matter what? It comes off as a false attempt to ground Melody with flaws but does it in such a ridiculously frivolous manner that she still comes off saint-like. If you're going to bother with such a story, why not have Meloday act deliberately manipulative when her daughter is old enough to take it more seriously?
5th Mar '11 6:22:20 PM AliceMacher
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***** Katy-Ann's hair appears pink elsewhere than on the cast page, in for example [[http://www.pennyandaggie.com/index.php?p=252 this strip]], coloured by a different person (Miguel Marques) than the cast page colourist (Olivera T.). Also, in a later (grayscale) strip, Katy-Ann says "When I'm old, and dying my hair [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair blue]] instead of pink [...]".
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