History Headscratchers / PS238

4th Jan '16 8:38:14 PM Discar
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*** He gets a special dispensation, as the system was designed with him in mind. And maybe that helps explain how Zodon was able to use a calculator and a Speak-N-Spell to overcome the locks that first time...

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*** ** He gets a special dispensation, as the system was designed with him in mind. And maybe that helps explain how Zodon was able to use a calculator and a Speak-N-Spell to overcome the locks that first time...



*** Also, he specifically says that he can't change what it looks like, just how edible it is and how it tastes and suchlike. He can make a brick taste like chicken soup, but he can't quite make it look like it just yet.
**** It doesn't matter what it looks like. It matters what the consistency is. He can make a brick edible, which means he's messing with the consistency.
*** The distraction lasts long enough to make a big difference for the fight. Much larger than the advantage eye beams give over conventional firearms. In addition, it can be used from behind cover, and following it with turning the soup into hard candy would effectively end the fight.

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*** ** Also, he specifically says that he can't change what it looks like, just how edible it is and how it tastes and suchlike. He can make a brick taste like chicken soup, but he can't quite make it look like it just yet.
**** ** It doesn't matter what it looks like. It matters what the consistency is. He can make a brick edible, which means he's messing with the consistency.
*** ** The distraction lasts long enough to make a big difference for the fight. Much larger than the advantage eye beams give over conventional firearms. In addition, it can be used from behind cover, and following it with turning the soup into hard candy would effectively end the fight.



*** Has he ever not been touching the ground? As long as it's not nearly as deep under himself, it should work fine.

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*** ** Has he ever not been touching the ground? As long as it's not nearly as deep under himself, it should work fine.



*** The kid who can manipulate sound is probably the best example of this. His powers ARE used by some superheroes. His parents presumably don't want him to go into crime fighting.
*** All of them have powers that are much better suited for something else. The vast majority of things are not fighting crime, so it would be rare for that to be the ideal use of a given power. The rainmaker group isn't even particularly good. A genius inventor could do more to feed the world than someone who has to be present to make food.

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*** ** The kid who can manipulate sound is probably the best example of this. His powers ARE used by some superheroes. His parents presumably don't want him to go into crime fighting.
*** ** All of them have powers that are much better suited for something else. The vast majority of things are not fighting crime, so it would be rare for that to be the ideal use of a given power. The rainmaker group isn't even particularly good. A genius inventor could do more to feed the world than someone who has to be present to make food.



*** No, it was hinted at quite early on, far before it was revealed. Issue #6, I think, the first with American Eagle and Patriot Act.
*** Also, most of the comic is from the perspective of the kids. Not many kids in elementary school are going to be ''that'' conscious of former presidents, especially ones that were serving when they were infants or not even born yet (depending on precisely how long ago Cranston was in the Oval Office). For a lot of the kids, not realizing half their teachers are former members of a popular superteam is more unlikely.

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*** ** No, it was hinted at quite early on, far before it was revealed. Issue #6, I think, the first with American Eagle and Patriot Act.
*** ** Also, most of the comic is from the perspective of the kids. Not many kids in elementary school are going to be ''that'' conscious of former presidents, especially ones that were serving when they were infants or not even born yet (depending on precisely how long ago Cranston was in the Oval Office). For a lot of the kids, not realizing half their teachers are former members of a popular superteam is more unlikely.



*** Given who was involved in the attempted coup, he is probably safer '''without''' them.

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*** ** Given who was involved in the attempted coup, he is probably safer '''without''' them.



*** Given Zodon's behaviour as of late, it may well be working.

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*** ** Given Zodon's behaviour as of late, it may well be working.
8th Dec '15 10:34:57 PM CDevil
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** Former Presidents don't get Secret Service protection for the rest of their lives.
8th Jan '15 8:22:25 AM Discar
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*** The kid who can manipulate sound is probably the best example of this. His powers ARE used by some superheros. His parents presumably don't want him to go into crime fighting.

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*** The kid who can manipulate sound is probably the best example of this. His powers ARE used by some superheros.superheroes. His parents presumably don't want him to go into crime fighting.
8th Jan '15 2:29:38 AM RegShoe
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*** The kid who can manipulate sound is probably the best example of this. His powers ARE used by some superheros. His parents presumably don't want him to go into crime fighting.



*** Given who was involved in the attempted coup, he is probably safer '''without''' them.




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** Perhaps, but ultimately this was the fault of the government, not the school. The Department of Education won't acredit the school.




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*** Given Zodon's behaviour as of late, it may well be working.
8th Jan '15 2:04:26 AM RegShoe
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** The documentry The Headmaster shows a pupil has his image in it. I would assume that after F.I.S.S. became well known they worked out that he was almost certainly one who, for whatever reason, was never recorded as flying in public. Plus, the FBI did find out after all.
26th Dec '14 4:17:46 PM Nerrin
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** Herschel's reference to it as a [[ScareQuotes "closed"]] hearing suggests that it was supposed to be closed but for some reason isn't. Given Senator Durvin was a direct opponent to Cranston during the latter's political career, and is known to hate metahumans, some of his allies in Congress probably did a little obstructionism dance to keep it from being properly closed to the public just to throw another land mine in the school's path. They could even have anticipated someone like Herschel intervening to maintain the school's secrecy, knowing full well there would be a potential scandal they could use if an opportune moment came up. Just that it hasn't yet.



** Yes, I would expect superheroes are trained to deal with powerful threats, including those with unknown capabilities. However, the majority the school's metahuman population are children whose training is incomplete, and the school's {{Muggle}} population is at least the same size. That's a lot of people to place at risk, at least half of whom are unaware of the danger, compared to simply keeping the alien of unknown power in a more contained setting. The inability to communicate with Propero is also a HUGE problem, since they can't understand his intentions nor is there a way to be sure he understands their's. Sure they understand him better over time, but they were completely in the dark when they made the decision to let him roam freely. If one of the students misbehaves then the teachers can scold and punish them, but there's no guarantee Propero will know what the rules are or even that he is being punished for breaking them.

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** Yes, I would expect superheroes are trained to deal with powerful threats, including those with unknown capabilities. However, the majority the school's metahuman population are children whose training is incomplete, and the school's {{Muggle}} population is at least the same size. That's a lot of people to place at risk, at least half of whom are unaware of the danger, compared to simply keeping the alien of unknown power in a more contained setting. The inability to communicate with Propero Prospero is also a HUGE problem, since they can't understand his intentions nor is there a way to be sure he understands their's. Sure they understand him better over time, but they were completely in the dark when they made the decision to let him roam freely. If one of the students misbehaves then the teachers can scold and punish them, but there's no guarantee Propero Prospero will know what the rules are or even that he is being punished for breaking them.
** There might be some "Rainmaker" history at work - essentially, that people are leery of putting someone in a box to be studied given the implied fallout of the original Rainmaker program. The school is already a very secure facility to study a friendly alien without making him fear TheyWouldCutYouUp like previous such facilities have done.
22nd Aug '14 7:36:42 AM trekie140
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** Yes, I would expect superheroes are trained to deal with powerful threat, including those with unknown capabilities. However, the majority the school's metahuman population are children whose training is incomplete, and the school's {{Muggle}} population is at least the same size. That's a lot of people to place at risk, at least half of whom are unaware of the danger, compared to simply keeping the alien of unknown power in a more contained setting. The inability to communicate with Propero is also a HUGE problem, since they can't understand his intentions nor is there a way to be sure he understands their's. Sure they understand him better over time, but they were completely in the dark when they made the decision to let him roam freely. If one of the students misbehaves then the teachers can scold and punish them, but there's no guarantee Propero will know what the rules are or even that he is being punished for breaking them.

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** Yes, I would expect superheroes are trained to deal with powerful threat, threats, including those with unknown capabilities. However, the majority the school's metahuman population are children whose training is incomplete, and the school's {{Muggle}} population is at least the same size. That's a lot of people to place at risk, at least half of whom are unaware of the danger, compared to simply keeping the alien of unknown power in a more contained setting. The inability to communicate with Propero is also a HUGE problem, since they can't understand his intentions nor is there a way to be sure he understands their's. Sure they understand him better over time, but they were completely in the dark when they made the decision to let him roam freely. If one of the students misbehaves then the teachers can scold and punish them, but there's no guarantee Propero will know what the rules are or even that he is being punished for breaking them.
22nd Aug '14 7:35:49 AM trekie140
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** Yes, I would expect superheroes are trained to deal with powerful threat, including those with unknown capabilities. However, the majority the school's metahuman population are children whose training is incomplete, and the school's {{Muggle}} population is at least the same size. That's a lot of people to place at risk, at least half of whom are unaware of the danger, compared to simply keeping the alien of unknown power in a more contained setting. The inability to communicate with Propero is also a HUGE problem, since they can't understand his intentions nor is there a way to be sure he understands their's. Sure they understand him better over time, but they were completely in the dark when they made the decision to let him roam freely. If one of the students misbehaves then the teachers can scold and punish them, but there's no guarantee Propero will know what the rules are or even that he is being punished for breaking them.
21st Aug '14 9:35:56 AM deadpool616
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** To be fair, he's hardly more dangerous than the metaprodigies and there aren't any {{Muggles}} that can communicate with him. Also, this is about [[{{Superhero}} superheroes]]. If there is, worst case scenario, a security risk and the possibility of an invasion then than surrounded by [[{{Superhero}} superheroes]] is probably the maximum of maximum security prisons.

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** To be fair, he's hardly more dangerous than the metaprodigies and there aren't any {{Muggles}} that can communicate with him. Also, this is about [[{{Superhero}} superheroes]]. If there is, worst case scenario, a security risk and the possibility of an invasion then than surrounded by [[{{Superhero}} superheroes]] is probably the maximum of maximum security prisons.
21st Aug '14 9:35:25 AM deadpool616
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** To be fair, he's hardly more dangerous than the metaprodigies and there aren't any {{Muggles}} that can communicate with him. Also, this is about [[{{Superhero}} superheroes]]. If there is, worst case scenario, a security risk and the possibility of an invasion then than surrounded by [[{{Superhero}} superheroes]] is probably the maximum of maximum security prisons.
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