History Headscratchers / Overlord

22nd Jul '16 6:14:41 PM trixus
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** To be fair unless you make the choices the first Overlord doesn't seem that motivated about the whole evil thing, he likes killing stuff and pillaging but aside from that it's up to you to make him evil because he pretty much accept any requests someone not cowering in fear asks.



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20th Feb '16 7:50:31 PM Zynn
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***'Intentionally vague' how? Gnarl flat out says she's Overlad's mother.
15th Jan '16 2:28:20 PM Anddrix
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** If he's such a sage advisor, he should at least know how to address his Overlord with some respect, instead of constantly goading, nagging, demanding. At least in II it was justified, since he practically raised him, and he also wasn't as grating and Scrappy. I think it was just a [[ViewersAreMorons player hand-holding]] decision on the developer's part, to keep constant cues for younger players. But it does wreck the purported gameplay dynamic, and makes the player less of an Overlord in command than a leashed gofer.

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** If he's such a sage advisor, he should at least know how to address his Overlord with some respect, instead of constantly goading, nagging, demanding. At least in II it was justified, since he practically raised him, and he also wasn't as grating and Scrappy. I think it was just a [[ViewersAreMorons player hand-holding]] hand-holding decision on the developer's part, to keep constant cues for younger players. But it does wreck the purported gameplay dynamic, and makes the player less of an Overlord in command than a leashed gofer.
27th Apr '15 12:40:57 AM Cupcakes
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** As far as we can tell there apparently aren't female minions. In order to make new ones they need to collect life force using that gauntlet the overlord wears. Call me crazy but I doubt Gnarl could wear it. In fact if anything it seems like Gnarl and the minions are sort of an ongoing deal with the devil from times unknown, you get there power, magic, and resources but you have to keep the minions going and conquer the land inorder to be the overlord and retain all the benefits.
23rd Feb '15 12:31:08 AM immortalfrieza
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** There's quite a few facts in the sequel that contradict choosing Rose over Velvet anyway, such as the Demon statues in the wasteland and the Greater Fang Top Upgrade that are only available with Velvet and that the third Overlord is mentioned to have destroyed everything, something Rose doesn't want, among other things. In fact, Rose's actions throughout Overlord 2 make significantly more sense if the Third Overlord DID choose Velvet, such as abandoning her "son" in Nordberg, bringing about the destruction of the Overlord's Empire while he was incarcerated, and joining up with a magic hating empire that would only pose a danger to her son and would oppose her husband's rule upon his eventual return. All can be explained by Rose not being the Overlad's mother (which could still be possible even with Rose as the true mistress if the Third Overlord "got something on the side" from Velvet) and her continued resentment over being abandoned and the killing of the Wizard who she believes is her father by the Third Overlord. Either way it's made intentionally vague as to who the mother of the Overlad is precisely so that the choice between the two mistresses can be whoever the player wanted it to be.




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** Maybe Gnarl WAS the Overlord at some point and ruled for centuries, but eventually he started getting too old and frail to really do the hands on running of his empire anymore like the player ends up doing so he started recruiting "Overlords" to handle that sort of thing, [[MagnificentBastard all thinking they were the ones in control while Gnarl was the real boss, which also conveniently allows him to avoid being the target of coups, assassinations, KlingonPromotions, and upstart heroes, while being in a position to easily escape and restart the empire in the event it collapses like it does several times in the series.]]
23rd Jul '13 5:46:50 PM Adeon
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*** [[IHaveBoobsYouMustObey Boobs?]]
3rd Jul '13 3:56:39 AM DevilJinKazama
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** Also, considering the whole series, a 'good/uncorrupted' Overlord is preferable to an incompetent ruler. I believe there was the case of the Black Baron, uncle of the First Overlord from Dark Legends, that enslaved towns, but was so adept at keeping everyone safe and alive, the only problem they had was being enslaved. And they supposedly took that as part of the deal, since he was overall a much better ruler than the one they lived under beforehand.
30th Nov '12 2:30:49 AM justanid
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*** Staying in the ruins of the Tower, even if the Minions could make it livable again, would just be far to open and exposed place for her child to live safely, he needed to hide and she had to do what she could from within the Empire to moderate it least it goes out of control. ItGotWorse anyway.

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*** Staying in the ruins of the Tower, even if the Minions could make it livable again, would just be far to open and exposed place for her child to live safely, he needed to hide and she had to do what she could from within the Empire to moderate it least it goes out of control. ItGotWorse anyway.Went FromBadToWorse anyways.
6th Nov '12 6:15:09 PM Adeon
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**** Well they aren't much use in a fight and [[ImAHumanitarian your minions get hungry]].
7th Jan '12 11:55:44 AM littlebeeper
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*** Same reason why the Minions were not with the WitchBoy since day 1. As magical creatures, a horde of them following Rose's baby would just make them a bigger target, best to scatter, hide, and bide their time. Look at what happened to the Blues. Caught and used for fodder.

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*** Same reason why the Minions were not with the WitchBoy Witch Boy since day 1. As magical creatures, a horde of them following Rose's baby would just make them a bigger target, best to scatter, hide, and bide their time. Look at what happened to the Blues. Caught and used for fodder.



** YOu can get around 80% corruption and still not contradict sequel. Maube he destroyed Evernight(since it's gone), starved Spree and killed rebel leaders etc. etc. I also think he kept Rose not because it was "evil", but because she has more brains. Oh, and since Dwarves are gone in Overlord II, I think Overlord Mark 3 might have actualy cause a genocide of Dwarves.

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** YOu You can get around 80% corruption and still not contradict the sequel. Maube he destroyed Evernight(since it's gone), starved Spree and killed rebel leaders etc. etc. I also think he kept Rose not because it was "evil", but because she has more brains. Oh, and since Dwarves are gone in Overlord II, I think Overlord Mark 3 might have actualy cause a genocide of Dwarves.
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