History Headscratchers / OnePiece

28th Oct '17 7:11:08 AM anyanp
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** A mirror image of a mirror image would be 100% accurate, tho.
22nd Oct '17 11:17:43 PM R.G.
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** They were scattered around the world. It doesn't say how far. And they met friends who could provide adequate transportation.

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** They were scattered around the world. It doesn't say how far. And they met friends who could provide adequate transportation.transportation.
** About that . . . I donít know about the others, but surely someone could have reported Robin to the Marines whether or not the Revolutionaries had come to her.
21st Oct '17 7:05:58 AM TBTabby
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* If the Straw Hats were scattered to the four corners of the world, how did they manage to reunite? Never mind two years, it would have taken any of them longer than that to get back to Sabaody.

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* If the Straw Hats were scattered to the four corners of the world, how did they manage to reunite? Never mind two years, it would have taken any of them longer than that to get back to Sabaody.Sabaody.
** They were scattered around the world. It doesn't say how far. And they met friends who could provide adequate transportation.
20th Oct '17 1:31:30 AM R.G.
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* If the Straw Hats were scattered to the four corners of the world, how did they manage to reunite? Never mind two, it would have taken any of them longer than that to get back to Sabaody.

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* If the Straw Hats were scattered to the four corners of the world, how did they manage to reunite? Never mind two, two years, it would have taken any of them longer than that to get back to Sabaody.
20th Oct '17 1:29:25 AM R.G.
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* How did Doflamingo manage to keep people from noticing the forgotten people of Dressrosa for ten years?! Sure, the people turned into toys are erased from people's memory, but ''physical evidence'' is completely unaffected, as demonstrated by the statue of Kyros in the Colosseum. That means things like photographs, clothes, personal possessions, are still lying all over the place. Milo's wife, for example, probably had wedding photos, a wedding ring, a double bed, a man's clothes in her closet, and other things clearly indicating that she has a husband, but can't remember him! And yet her attitude is "That's not so strange, is it?!" Yes it is! It's VERY strange! This woman should think she's losing her mind! And that's just ONE person! Everyone in Dressrosa should have evidence of people they can't remember despite closely interacting with them! Not only that, but the mystery of the missing people coincides pretty closely with Doflamingo's takeover of Dressrosa and the appearance of the living toys. Surely they must at least ''suspect'' that there's something suspicious about all that! It gets even more ridiculous when you consider that the people turned into toys includes high-profile figures such as New World pirates, Marine officers, and even ''foreign dignitaries!'' These are people who hav made headlines worldwide and roles which they served in an official, documented capacity, and now nobody remembers anything about them?! This should not only raise suspicion, it should raise suspicion among people with the power and authority to launch thorough investigations! And you can't just explain it away with "all the investigators got turned into toys and forgotten" because that just means there's physical evidence of investigators who vanished and were forgotten while investigating the mystery of people who vanished and were forgotten in Dressrosa! That should only arouse even ''more'' suspicion! Sure, Doflamingo has connections, but in order to pull off a coverup on this scale, he would need agents working around the world covering up evidence and silencing people 24/7, with little to no margin for error, never truly being sure they've covered up all the evidence, and doing it all in secret, FOR TEN YEARS. '''BULL.''' This coverup shouldn't even have lasted half that time before it collapsed under its own weight. Herding cats would be child's play by comparison.

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* How did Doflamingo manage to keep people from noticing the forgotten people of Dressrosa for ten years?! Sure, the people turned into toys are erased from people's memory, but ''physical evidence'' is completely unaffected, as demonstrated by the statue of Kyros in the Colosseum. That means things like photographs, clothes, personal possessions, are still lying all over the place. Milo's wife, for example, probably had wedding photos, a wedding ring, a double bed, a man's clothes in her closet, and other things clearly indicating that she has a husband, but can't remember him! And yet her attitude is "That's not so strange, is it?!" Yes it is! It's VERY strange! This woman should think she's losing her mind! And that's just ONE person! Everyone in Dressrosa should have evidence of people they can't remember despite closely interacting with them! Not only that, but the mystery of the missing people coincides pretty closely with Doflamingo's takeover of Dressrosa and the appearance of the living toys. Surely they must at least ''suspect'' that there's something suspicious about all that! It gets even more ridiculous when you consider that the people turned into toys includes high-profile figures such as New World pirates, Marine officers, and even ''foreign dignitaries!'' These are people who hav made headlines worldwide and roles which they served in an official, documented capacity, and now nobody remembers anything about them?! This should not only raise suspicion, it should raise suspicion among people with the power and authority to launch thorough investigations! And you can't just explain it away with "all the investigators got turned into toys and forgotten" because that just means there's physical evidence of investigators who vanished and were forgotten while investigating the mystery of people who vanished and were forgotten in Dressrosa! That should only arouse even ''more'' suspicion! Sure, Doflamingo has connections, but in order to pull off a coverup on this scale, he would need agents working around the world covering up evidence and silencing people 24/7, with little to no margin for error, never truly being sure they've covered up all the evidence, and doing it all in secret, FOR TEN YEARS. '''BULL.''' This coverup shouldn't even have lasted half that time before it collapsed under its own weight. Herding cats would be child's play by comparison.comparison.
* If the Straw Hats were scattered to the four corners of the world, how did they manage to reunite? Never mind two, it would have taken any of them longer than that to get back to Sabaody.
18th Oct '17 8:34:55 PM TBTabby
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* More on the structure of the Marines... Sentomaru is called head of the Marine Science Unit in his first appearance, and he doesn't appear to be on the science side of things (later confirmed his main detail is as Vegapunk's bodyguard). But two years later he claims he's only now become a Marine... how does that work? Huh? How were you not a marine before?

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* More on the structure of the Marines... Sentomaru is called head of the Marine Science Unit in his first appearance, and he doesn't appear to be on the science side of things (later confirmed his main detail is as Vegapunk's bodyguard). But two years later he claims he's only now become a Marine... how does that work? Huh? How were you not a marine before?before?
* How did Doflamingo manage to keep people from noticing the forgotten people of Dressrosa for ten years?! Sure, the people turned into toys are erased from people's memory, but ''physical evidence'' is completely unaffected, as demonstrated by the statue of Kyros in the Colosseum. That means things like photographs, clothes, personal possessions, are still lying all over the place. Milo's wife, for example, probably had wedding photos, a wedding ring, a double bed, a man's clothes in her closet, and other things clearly indicating that she has a husband, but can't remember him! And yet her attitude is "That's not so strange, is it?!" Yes it is! It's VERY strange! This woman should think she's losing her mind! And that's just ONE person! Everyone in Dressrosa should have evidence of people they can't remember despite closely interacting with them! Not only that, but the mystery of the missing people coincides pretty closely with Doflamingo's takeover of Dressrosa and the appearance of the living toys. Surely they must at least ''suspect'' that there's something suspicious about all that! It gets even more ridiculous when you consider that the people turned into toys includes high-profile figures such as New World pirates, Marine officers, and even ''foreign dignitaries!'' These are people who hav made headlines worldwide and roles which they served in an official, documented capacity, and now nobody remembers anything about them?! This should not only raise suspicion, it should raise suspicion among people with the power and authority to launch thorough investigations! And you can't just explain it away with "all the investigators got turned into toys and forgotten" because that just means there's physical evidence of investigators who vanished and were forgotten while investigating the mystery of people who vanished and were forgotten in Dressrosa! That should only arouse even ''more'' suspicion! Sure, Doflamingo has connections, but in order to pull off a coverup on this scale, he would need agents working around the world covering up evidence and silencing people 24/7, with little to no margin for error, never truly being sure they've covered up all the evidence, and doing it all in secret, FOR TEN YEARS. '''BULL.''' This coverup shouldn't even have lasted half that time before it collapsed under its own weight. Herding cats would be child's play by comparison.
9th Oct '17 1:57:09 PM Ryan37352
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** When Luffy, Sanji, and Ussop arrive, there were houses literally turned upside down, and entire neighborhoods had large ''trenches'' dug through the middle of the street where homes used to be. This implies that Arlong and co. ''did in fact kill people on a regular basis.''

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** When Luffy, Sanji, and Ussop Usopp arrive, there were houses literally turned upside down, and entire neighborhoods had large ''trenches'' dug through the middle of the street where homes used to be. This implies that Arlong and co. ''did in fact kill people on a regular basis.''



* More on the structure of the Marines... Sentomaru is called head of the Marine Science Unit in his first appearance, and he doesn't appear to be on the science side of things (later confirmed his main detail is as Vegapunk's bodyguard). But two years later he claims he's only now become a Marine... how does that work? Huh? How were you not a marine bef

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* More on the structure of the Marines... Sentomaru is called head of the Marine Science Unit in his first appearance, and he doesn't appear to be on the science side of things (later confirmed his main detail is as Vegapunk's bodyguard). But two years later he claims he's only now become a Marine... how does that work? Huh? How were you not a marine befbefore?
30th Sep '17 4:07:46 PM MadAnthony94
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** They also have the concept of miles/kilometers, four cardinal directions, etc. It's a literary convention to make it so the readers will be able to understand.

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** They also have the concept of miles/kilometers, four cardinal directions, the characters are familiar with Greek myths, etc. It's a literary convention to make it so the readers will be able to understand.



* More on the structure of the Marines... Sentomaru is called head of the Marine Science Unit in his first appearance, and he doesn't appear to be on the science side of things (later confirmed his main detail is as Vegapunk's bodyguard). But two years later he claims he's only now become a Marine... how does that work? Huh? How were you not a marine before?

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* More on the structure of the Marines... Sentomaru is called head of the Marine Science Unit in his first appearance, and he doesn't appear to be on the science side of things (later confirmed his main detail is as Vegapunk's bodyguard). But two years later he claims he's only now become a Marine... how does that work? Huh? How were you not a marine before?bef
16th Sep '17 11:42:13 AM VulgarBee
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** Also, I'm pretty sure even if he could heal others, he wouldn't have been able to do it to either of them. Ace had a giant hole burned through his body (Jinbei too, but he's bigger than Ace and Law was there), and Whitebeard had '''half his friggin' face melted off.'''

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** Also, I'm pretty sure even if he could heal others, he wouldn't have been able to do it to either of them. Ace had a giant hole burned through his body (Jinbei (Jimbei too, but he's bigger than Ace and Law was there), and Whitebeard had '''half his friggin' face melted off.'''



** I think another problem of going to Impel Down are the pirates. WB pirates are powerful people, and powerful people make lots of enemies. Getting down to Ace means having to not only fight all the marines and guards, but also every freaking pirate that has a grudge against WB. At level six that is practically more frightening than the entire marine forces. An entire army of people who are roughly lower Shichibukai level. Luffy didn't even qualify to go down to the sixth level with his power, and he "beat" Moria. The monsters on level six would be reason enough not to attack Impel Down.

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** I think another problem of going to Impel Down are the pirates. WB pirates are powerful people, and powerful people make lots of enemies. Getting down to Ace means having to not only fight all the marines and guards, but also every freaking pirate that has a grudge against WB. At level six that is practically more frightening than the entire marine forces. An entire army of people who are roughly lower Shichibukai Warlord level. Luffy didn't even qualify to go down to the sixth level with his power, and he "beat" Moria. The monsters on level six would be reason enough not to attack Impel Down.



*** The best way to describe Crocodile in terms of Warlord strength is as WeakButSkilled. He may not have Blackbeard's raw physical strength, Jinbe's martial art skills, or Hancock's knowledge of Haki (or maybe he does), but he has his intelligence, his experience and a complete mastery of his powers, which is still a [[NighInvulnerable Logia-type]]. Why he lost to Luffy is because he suffered a VillainousBreakdown and did not use his powers like in Rounds 1 & 2 and forgot to NeverBringAKnifeToAFistFight, especially against someone like [[ConfusionFu Luffy]].

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*** The best way to describe Crocodile in terms of Warlord strength is as WeakButSkilled. He may not have Blackbeard's raw physical strength, Jinbe's Jimbei's martial art skills, or Hancock's knowledge of Haki (or maybe he does), but he has his intelligence, his experience and a complete mastery of his powers, which is still a [[NighInvulnerable Logia-type]]. Why he lost to Luffy is because he suffered a VillainousBreakdown and did not use his powers like in Rounds 1 & 2 and forgot to NeverBringAKnifeToAFistFight, especially against someone like [[ConfusionFu Luffy]].



*** Actually, I kind of thought Moriah was the weakest of them, really. I mean, at least Crocodile and the others actually were out regulary fighting people and other dirty deeds. Moriah just sat on his ass getting fat, weak and lazy by relying on his zombies for 10 years. Probably why Jinbe [[OneHitKill one-shotted]] him back at Marineford.

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*** Actually, I kind of thought Moriah was the weakest of them, really. I mean, at least Crocodile and the others actually were out regulary fighting people and other dirty deeds. Moriah just sat on his ass getting fat, weak and lazy by relying on his zombies for 10 years. Probably why Jinbe Jimbei [[OneHitKill one-shotted]] him back at Marineford.



** Crocodile is far from weak. True he got beaten by Luffy in Alabasta, but his powers would have made him difficult opponent even to Luffy just before timeskip. Luffy at the time of Alabasta arc just barely defeated more due to luck and Crocodile's own mistakes (not finishing Luffy off for good when he had a chance being the most prominent). By the time of the timeskip two of them were pretty much equal in terms of power and skill Luffy being capable of fighting Crocodile into standstill without getting lucky break and vice versa. In comparison with other shichibukai he is pretty much average in terms of the fighting skill and when you bring his planning and organizational skill into equation he is above average with Doffy taking the first place (Mihawk probably being strongest in sheer fighting skill).

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** Crocodile is far from weak. True he got beaten by Luffy in Alabasta, but his powers would have made him difficult opponent even to Luffy just before timeskip. Luffy at the time of Alabasta arc just barely defeated more due to luck and Crocodile's own mistakes (not finishing Luffy off for good when he had a chance being the most prominent). By the time of the timeskip two of them were pretty much equal in terms of power and skill Luffy being capable of fighting Crocodile into standstill without getting lucky break and vice versa. In comparison with other shichibukai warlord he is pretty much average in terms of the fighting skill and when you bring his planning and organizational skill into equation he is above average with Doffy taking the first place (Mihawk probably being strongest in sheer fighting skill).



* Ok. Whitebeard has been protecting Jinbe's homeland, and fellow fishmen from slavers. Jinbe is highly grateful to him because of this. So why the hell did Sengoku think that out of all the Shichibukai, he'd be the one MOST willing to fight against Whitebeard? Surely he at least TALKED to the guy before having him sent to Impel Down?
** I don't remember Sengoku stating that, even so, it doesn't seem unlikely he would think that. Jinbei is the most controllable Shichibukai (except for Kuma) becuase he honors the agreement to work for the WG and is less unruly.
*** In chapter 523, Sengoku says "And to think, I had expected him to be the most cooperative of [the Shichibukai] in this matter." after being told about Jinbe's refusal to fight.
** My guess is [[LawfulGood Jinbe]] was one of the most willing Shichibukai to follow WG orders when dealing with pirates. Sengoku just didn't take his friendship with Whitebeard into account.

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* Ok. Whitebeard has been protecting Jinbe's Jimbei's homeland, and fellow fishmen from slavers. Jinbe Jimbei is highly grateful to him because of this. So why the hell did Sengoku think that out of all the Shichibukai, he'd be the one MOST willing to fight against Whitebeard? Surely he at least TALKED to the guy before having him sent to Impel Down?
** I don't remember Sengoku stating that, even so, it doesn't seem unlikely he would think that. Jinbei Jimbei is the most controllable Shichibukai (except for Kuma) becuase he honors the agreement to work for the WG and is less unruly.
*** In chapter 523, Sengoku says "And to think, I had expected him to be the most cooperative of [the Shichibukai] in this matter." after being told about Jinbe's Jimbei's refusal to fight.
** My guess is [[LawfulGood Jinbe]] Jimbei]] was one of the most willing Shichibukai Warlord to follow WG orders when dealing with pirates. Sengoku just didn't take his friendship with Whitebeard into account.



** Part of it could be that the World Government only counts raw destructive power I mean look at the original 7 Warlords; Hawkeye devastated an entire fleet (granted a weak one but still the ships huge),cut up the glacier and is the strongest swordsman in the world. Doflamingo almost utterly destroyed an entire country and it took another Warlord and the man who beat two to take him down. Crocodile was only beaten by Whitebeard and was later able to fight Akainu without getting injured. Hancock destroyed multiple Pacifista with kicks and got out of Marineford without a scratch (doesn't hurt that she has the rare Conquerors' Haki. Kuma's powers are downright scary and he's (was) a high ranking revolutionary, and Jinbe is also pretty strong and beat Moriah in seconds (doesn't hurt that he can throw the ocean at you). So compared to that lot Moriah is rather lacking in that department.

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** Part of it could be that the World Government only counts raw destructive power I mean look at the original 7 Warlords; Hawkeye devastated an entire fleet (granted a weak one but still the ships huge),cut up the glacier and is the strongest swordsman in the world. Doflamingo almost utterly destroyed an entire country and it took another Warlord and the man who beat two to take him down. Crocodile was only beaten by Whitebeard and was later able to fight Akainu without getting injured. Hancock destroyed multiple Pacifista with kicks and got out of Marineford without a scratch (doesn't hurt that she has the rare Conquerors' Haki. Kuma's powers are downright scary and he's (was) a high ranking revolutionary, and Jinbe Jimbei is also pretty strong and beat Moriah in seconds (doesn't hurt that he can throw the ocean at you). So compared to that lot Moriah is rather lacking in that department.
14th Sep '17 7:06:50 PM MadAnthony94
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** Did the Straw Hats have any reason to suspect that they were going to run into one of the members of the crew that left Laboon at Twin Peaks back then? Alternatively, they might have just forgotten to ask for his transponder snail number.

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** Did the Straw Hats have any reason to suspect that they were going to run into one of the members of the crew that left Laboon at Twin Peaks back then? Alternatively, they might have just forgotten to ask for his transponder snail number.number.
* Kong's title is Commander-in-Chief, which according to TheOtherWiki denotes his command of both the Marines and the World Government's intelligence in Cipher Pol. If we take the "in chief" bit literally that means there's no higher authority as far as military command... not even the Gorosei? Sounds like a pretty unbalanced way to run the government. What's stopping him from just starting a coup?
* More on the structure of the Marines... Sentomaru is called head of the Marine Science Unit in his first appearance, and he doesn't appear to be on the science side of things (later confirmed his main detail is as Vegapunk's bodyguard). But two years later he claims he's only now become a Marine... how does that work? Huh? How were you not a marine before?
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