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17th Mar '16 10:08:55 PM fallensaviour
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***** Ananasi (werespider) just die. Guhral (werebears) and Ajaba (werehyenas) are the same as garou but lose gnosis. Nagah (weresnakes) die, making the necessary rolls to become an abomination just makes it take longer for them to die. Rokea (weresharks) become an abomination but lose all their gnosis and frenzy, prioritizing vampires in a crowd and diablarizing when possible.
7th Jan '16 5:05:39 AM Yamitsu
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**** It's unknown what would happen with an Ananasi, Guhral, Nagah or Rokea, but, considering their rarity, it would be a philosophical exercise or a VERY insane game.
19th Dec '15 4:20:24 AM DrImpossible
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* Does NO ONE in the World of Darkness own a dictionary? I remember quite a few where it was just obvious what the big meta-twist was going to be, but the one that floored me was Autocthonia. Really. Go look it up.
** I always get confused because in French 'autochthones' means 'natives' (as in Native Americans). I'm not seeing any English-language definition that seems particularly evocative of what Autochtonia is in WoD. Although to speak about evocative names generally, this is particularly odd, since the people who discover things or the people who talk about those things often are generally the ones who name it and they wouldn't have any meta-knowledge about the objects.

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* Does NO ONE in the World of Darkness own a dictionary? I remember quite a few where it was just obvious what the big meta-twist was going to be, but the one that floored me was Autocthonia. Really. Go look it up.
** I always get confused because in French 'autochthones' means 'natives' (as in Native Americans). I'm not seeing any English-language definition that seems particularly evocative of what Autochtonia is in WoD. Although to speak about evocative names generally, this is particularly odd, since the people who discover things or the people who talk about those things often are generally the ones who name it and they wouldn't have any meta-knowledge about the objects.


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** Yes.
*** Which is to say, every World of Darkness game had its own mutually exclusive universe creation myth. ''And'' every ''single'' one of them was ''literally'' true.
19th Dec '15 4:14:42 AM DrImpossible
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** In TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, werewolves and changelings are immune to embrace or it replaces their existing template, depending on situation and GM fiat. Werewolf blood tends to drive a Vampire into Frenzy, and Mage blood gives them hallucinations. Assuming they got past that, more likely than not the target would just die. Mage souls are tied to their respective Watchtowers on the Supernal Realm, so the Embrace probably wouldn't take for that reason (but that's just WildMassGuessing).
*** Actually, there is ''one'' instance where a werewolf ''might'' be Embraced in the nWoD, and that is the Dead Wolves bloodline from Shadows of Mexico. Dead Wolves have access to Totems and Fetishes, and they have Auspices, so it's about as close to an Embraced werewolf as is possible.
** What happens when a vampire tries to feed on a Promethean? I presume HilarityEnsues. And does Genius blood make them smarter?
*** It's explained as "tasting like dust". Promethean blood is, essentially, just for show or until something real is replaced.
**** I found the rules, Promethean blood is half as good as human blood and probably not nearly as tasty.
*** According to the Genius book, for vampires Genius blood is no different from ordinary blood, with no bonuses or penalties. (Check page 360.)



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** In TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, werewolves and changelings are immune to embrace or it replaces their existing template, depending on situation and GM fiat. Werewolf blood tends to drive a Vampire into Frenzy, and Mage blood gives them hallucinations. Assuming they got past that, more likely than not the target would just die. Mage souls are tied to their respective Watchtowers on the Supernal Realm, so the Embrace probably wouldn't take for that reason (but that's just WildMassGuessing).
*** Actually, there is ''one'' instance where a werewolf ''might'' be Embraced in the nWoD, and that is the Dead Wolves bloodline from Shadows of Mexico. Dead Wolves have access to Totems and Fetishes, and they have Auspices, so it's about as close to an Embraced werewolf as is possible.
** What happens when a vampire tries to feed on a Promethean? I presume HilarityEnsues. And does Genius blood make them smarter?
*** It's explained as "tasting like dust". Promethean blood is, essentially, just for show or until something real is replaced.
**** I found the rules, Promethean blood is half as good as human blood and probably not nearly as tasty.
*** According to the Genius book, for vampires Genius blood is no different from ordinary blood, with no bonuses or penalties. (Check page 360.)




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** Essentially, if you get a group, including the GM, who want a fun game more than they want a game that feels as GrimDark as the game designers intended, then yes.
11th Nov '14 6:16:07 PM SeriesOfNumbers
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* Which being created the universe; God (who is mentioned in the Vampire and Hunter games), Gaia (mentioned in Werewolf), some combination of both? Did Caine becoming the first vampire happen before or after the Weaver created the gauntlet and split the physical world from the spiritual?
18th Sep '14 3:00:24 PM FordPrefect
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** Set is one of Vampire's setting's big-time [[VillainSue Villain Sues]], along with Tzimisce and Saulot.

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** Set is one of the Vampire's setting's big-time [[VillainSue Villain Sues]], along with Tzimisce and Saulot.



*** It varied depending on the target. Most shapechangers would either die or rarely become Abominations. An Embraced Kitsune (werefox) immediately goes up in a pillar of fire, taking the vampire with it. Nuwisha (werecoyotes) die immediately if an vampire tries to embrace them. Embraced Ratkin (wererats) decompose until their bodies can no longer function. Corax and Mokole (ravens and reptiles) had it worst; since they were both tied to the Sun, they would die by the next sunrise. Corax generally just spiralled into dperession; Mokole spent their last night in a permanent, mindless frenzy. Bastet (werecat) abominations bleed Gnosis constantly until they have none left.

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*** It varied depending on the target. Most shapechangers would either die or rarely become Abominations. An Embraced Kitsune (werefox) immediately goes up in a pillar of fire, taking the vampire with it. Nuwisha (werecoyotes) die immediately if an a vampire tries to embrace them. Embraced Ratkin (wererats) decompose until their bodies can no longer function. Corax and Mokole (ravens and reptiles) had it worst; since they were both tied to the Sun, they would die by the next sunrise. Corax generally just spiralled into dperession; Mokole spent their last night in a permanent, mindless frenzy. Bastet (werecat) abominations bleed Gnosis constantly until they have none left.
29th Sep '13 7:07:42 PM crawlkill
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** I always get confused because in French 'autochthones' means 'natives' (as in Native Americans). I'm not seeing any EN\glish-language definition that seems particularly evocative of what Autochtonia is in WoD. Although to speak about evocative names generally, this is particularly odd, since the people who discover things or the people who talk about those things often are generally the ones who name it and they wouldn't have any meta-knowledge about the objects.

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** I always get confused because in French 'autochthones' means 'natives' (as in Native Americans). I'm not seeing any EN\glish-language English-language definition that seems particularly evocative of what Autochtonia is in WoD. Although to speak about evocative names generally, this is particularly odd, since the people who discover things or the people who talk about those things often are generally the ones who name it and they wouldn't have any meta-knowledge about the objects.
29th Sep '13 7:07:31 PM crawlkill
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** I always get confused because in French 'autochthones' means 'natives' (as in Native Americans). I'm not seeing any ENglish-language definition that seems particularly evocative of what Autochtonia is in WoD. Although to speak about evocative names generally, this is particularly odd, since the people who discover things or the people who talk about those things often are generally the ones who name it and they wouldn't have any meta-knowledge about the objects.

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** I always get confused because in French 'autochthones' means 'natives' (as in Native Americans). I'm not seeing any ENglish-language EN\glish-language definition that seems particularly evocative of what Autochtonia is in WoD. Although to speak about evocative names generally, this is particularly odd, since the people who discover things or the people who talk about those things often are generally the ones who name it and they wouldn't have any meta-knowledge about the objects.
29th Sep '13 7:07:06 PM crawlkill
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** I always get confused because in French 'autochthones' means 'natives' (as in Native Americans). I'm not seeing any ENglish-language definition that seems particularly evocative of what Autochtonia is in WoD. Although to speak about evocative names generally, this is particularly odd, since the people who discover things or the people who talk about those things often are generally the ones who name it and they wouldn't have any meta-knowledge about the objects.
7th Jul '12 10:48:59 AM Nopperabo
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*** It varied depending on the target. Most shapechangers would either die or rarely become Abominations. An Embraced Kitsune immediately goes up in a pillar of fire, taking the vampire with it. Corax and Mokole (ravens and reptiles) had it worst; since they were both tied to the Sun, they would die by the next sunrise. Corax generally just spiralled into dperession; Mokole spent their last night in a permanent, mindless frenzy. Bastet abominations bleed Gnosis constantly until they have none left.

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*** It varied depending on the target. Most shapechangers would either die or rarely become Abominations. An Embraced Kitsune (werefox) immediately goes up in a pillar of fire, taking the vampire with it.it. Nuwisha (werecoyotes) die immediately if an vampire tries to embrace them. Embraced Ratkin (wererats) decompose until their bodies can no longer function. Corax and Mokole (ravens and reptiles) had it worst; since they were both tied to the Sun, they would die by the next sunrise. Corax generally just spiralled into dperession; Mokole spent their last night in a permanent, mindless frenzy. Bastet (werecat) abominations bleed Gnosis constantly until they have none left.
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