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** It's just a silly joke. Motorola already existed in 1945, and it wasn't named after the founders.

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** It's just a silly joke. Motorola already existed in 1945, and it wasn't named after the founders.
founders (though it didn't assume its current name until 1947).

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** We see portraits animated even when there's nobody in them. In Battle of the Smithsonian, you can see water moving in a portrait of a waterfall that has nobody in it.



* At the end of the third movie, why did all of the American Museum exhibits show up at the British Museum for the dance party? It's a bit confusing as to how and why everyone is there 3 years later.

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* At the end of the third movie, why did all of the American Museum museum exhibits show up at the British Museum for the dance party? It's a bit confusing as to how and why everyone is there 3 years later.



* Gold is really really heavy, some 19 grams per cubic centimeter. Akhmenra's tablet appears to be about 12" wide, 18" long, and 2" deep, or nearly 7000 cubic centimeters. Assuming it's solid, that comes out to nearly 300 pounds or 136 kilos. And a 10-year-old kid is toting it around like a notebook?

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* Gold is really really heavy, some 19 grams per cubic centimeter. Akhmenra's Ahkmenrah's tablet appears to be about 12" wide, 18" long, and 2" deep, or nearly 7000 cubic centimeters. Assuming it's solid, that comes out to nearly 300 pounds or 136 kilos. And a 10-year-old kid is toting it around like a notebook?



*** Alternatively, the magic made it lighter/easier to carry.

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*** Alternatively, the magic made it lighter/easier to carry. It strengthened the old guards and gave them new vibrancy and energy, after all.

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* Attila speaks whatever Mongolian language the Huns spoke, and the Christopher Columbus statue that asks Larry for directions doesn't seem to speak English either. Some exhibits seem to only recognize the languge they were "programmed" to know, so shouldn't Octavius and everyone in miniature Rome speak Latin?
** Maybe they learned it too? If Pharoah Ahkmenrah could do it...

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* Attila speaks whatever Mongolian language the Huns spoke, and the Christopher Columbus statue that asks Larry for directions doesn't seem to speak English either. Some exhibits seem to only recognize the languge language they were "programmed" to know, so shouldn't Octavius and everyone in miniature Rome speak Latin?
** Maybe they learned it too? If Pharoah Pharaoh Ahkmenrah could do it...



*** That doesn't make sense, either - the moon rising isn't specifically tied to nightfall. It can be in the sky in the middle of the day. Unless the exhibits are only given life when it ''does'' happen to rise at night, in which case, there would have to be some nights where they would simply stay inactive.

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*** **** That doesn't make sense, either - the moon rising isn't specifically tied to nightfall. It can be in the sky in the middle of the day. Unless the exhibits are only given life when it ''does'' happen to rise at night, in which case, there would have to be some nights where they would simply stay inactive.
***** It's because of the Egyptian moon god, Khonsu. Ra (Egyptian sun god and king of the gods) would hate Khonsu due to the latter letting Nut give birth by adding 5 more days to the year. The "some nights" bit still stands.



* Where were the characters with firing weapons (the civil war puppets, the Roman miniature) getting more ammunition? Or the western miniature figures getting more dynamite?

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* Where were the characters with firing weapons (the civil war puppets, Civil War mannequins, the Roman miniature) miniatures) getting more ammunition? Or the western miniature figures getting more dynamite?




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*** But Jed's gun doesn't work.



*** Exactly. Would you really want to push your luck and hope that being buried alive under all that heavy sand (well, heavy for a five inch figure) wouldn't kill you? While they don't become completely alive, there are a few changes that occur that suggest they become ''more'' alive-ish at night. Teddy is less pale at night, Ahkmenrah isn't a dried up corpse, the miniatures are more detailed than during the day when they are plastic models. Al Capone was a cardboard cutout (hence why he was black and white). They don't become completely flesh and blood, but they end up being a lot closer at night. They know for certain that being outside after sunrise is a death sentence, but very few individuals are probably willing to test out the limits of their semi-alive state and figure out what could kill them. Teddy didn't die by getting cut in half in the first movie, but he still shoved Sacagewea out of the way of the coach so she wouldn't get squished. She even said that Teddy saved her. It is quite possible that he didn't know for certain how much punishment a wax figure could take before they essentially "died." And they probably didn't know if being buried would kill Jed. At best, being buried like that would be extremely uncomfortable. At worst, it might have been fatal for the magically-animated cowboy. They didn't know for sure and it was best to save him just in case.

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*** Exactly. Would you really want to push your luck and hope that being buried alive under all that heavy sand (well, heavy for a five inch five-inch figure) wouldn't kill you? While they don't become completely alive, there are a few changes that occur that suggest they become ''more'' alive-ish at night. Teddy is less pale at night, Ahkmenrah isn't a dried up dried-up corpse, the miniatures are more detailed than during the day when they are plastic models. Al Capone was a is probably the image from the cardboard cutout (hence why he was black and white). They don't become completely flesh and blood, but they end up being a lot closer at night. They know for certain that being outside after sunrise is a death sentence, but very few individuals are probably willing to test out the limits of their semi-alive state and figure out what could kill them. Teddy didn't die by getting cut in half in the first movie, but he still shoved Sacagewea Sacagawea out of the way of the coach so she wouldn't get squished. She even said that Teddy saved her. It is quite possible that he didn't know for certain how much punishment a wax figure could take before they essentially "died." And they probably didn't know if being buried would kill Jed. At best, being buried like that would be extremely uncomfortable. At worst, it might have been fatal for the magically-animated cowboy. They didn't know for sure and it was best to save him just in case.case.



** We have both [[https://www.theodorerooseveltcenter.org/Advanced-Searchr=1&st1=2&t1=Theodore%20Roosevelt&d1=0&st2=6&t2=&d2=4&st3=0&t3=&d3=0&st4=0&t4=&d4=0&ds=&de=&c=All%20Collections&v=expanded&ro=1&pl=1&cp=1 photographs]] and [[https://www.theodorerooseveltcenter.org/Advanced-Search?r=1&st1=2&t1=Theodore%20Roosevelt&d1=0&st2=6&t2=&d2=4&st3=0&t3=&d3=0&st4=0&t4=&d4=0&ds=&de=&c=All%20Collections&v=expanded&ro=1&pl=1&cp=1 audio recordings]] of the real Theodore Roosevelt, so the museum would have been able to hire able someone who looks and sounds very similar for the hologram. Assuming Robin Williams portrayal of Wax!Teddy is supposed to look and sound like the real Roosevelt InUniverse, it's only natural that the statue and hologram would end up being very similar.

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** We have both [[https://www.theodorerooseveltcenter.org/Advanced-Searchr=1&st1=2&t1=Theodore%20Roosevelt&d1=0&st2=6&t2=&d2=4&st3=0&t3=&d3=0&st4=0&t4=&d4=0&ds=&de=&c=All%20Collections&v=expanded&ro=1&pl=1&cp=1 photographs]] and [[https://www.theodorerooseveltcenter.org/Advanced-Search?r=1&st1=2&t1=Theodore%20Roosevelt&d1=0&st2=6&t2=&d2=4&st3=0&t3=&d3=0&st4=0&t4=&d4=0&ds=&de=&c=All%20Collections&v=expanded&ro=1&pl=1&cp=1 audio recordings]] of the real Theodore Roosevelt, so the museum would have been able to hire able someone who looks and sounds very similar for the hologram. Assuming Robin Williams Williams' portrayal of Wax!Teddy is supposed to look and sound like the real Roosevelt InUniverse, it's only natural that the statue and hologram would end up being very similar.



*** Didn't the tablet only have 9 keys.

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*** Didn't the tablet only have 9 keys.
keys?



** Well when being chased by FREAKING AL CAPONE, it's kind of hard for someone to think rationally.

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** Well Well, when being chased by FREAKING AL CAPONE, it's kind of hard for someone to think rationally.



*** He gets the tablet in his hands literally seconds before it activates. It probably happened so fast he didn't think of it.

* Larry loses his phone while in the photograph portrait "V-J Day in Time's Square" and is picked up by some guy. At the end of the movie, he's shown to be tinkering with it, and his mother calls him "Joey Motorola," implying that Larry dropping the phone caused the first cell phone to be made. But...he dropped it in a PORTRAIT. And since it's just a photograph, how on earth is time supposed to pass anyways? Aren't they just supposed to be stuck in that one particular moment? So if anything, the phone small-mini-subplot made absolutely no sense. And what about the mooks that were trapped in there when he turned the portrait around?

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*** He gets the tablet in his hands literally seconds before it activates. It probably happened so fast he didn't think of it.

it or had thought of it but before he could even try...

* Larry loses his phone while in the photograph portrait "V-J Day in Time's Times Square" and is it's picked up by some guy. At the end of the movie, he's shown to be tinkering with it, and his mother calls him "Joey Motorola," implying that Larry dropping the phone caused the first cell phone to be made. But...he dropped it in a PORTRAIT. PHOTO. And since it's just a photograph, how on earth Earth is time supposed to pass anyways? Aren't they just supposed to be stuck in that one particular moment? So if anything, the phone small-mini-subplot made absolutely no sense. And what about the mooks that were trapped in there when he turned the portrait around?



** Definitely mummy. You wouldn't craft a wax figure just to wrap him in bandages. And even if you did, you wouldn't stick him in a sarcofagus where nobody will ever see it. In order for it to make any sense, he'd have to be a real mummy that becomes flesh and decomposes evey night and day.

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** Definitely mummy. You wouldn't craft a wax figure just to wrap him in bandages. And even if you did, you wouldn't stick him in a sarcofagus sarcophagus where nobody will ever see it. In order for it to make any sense, he'd have to be a real mummy that becomes flesh and decomposes evey every night and day.



*** Because the tablet was made specifically to bring Egyptian mummies back to life. Wouldn't do him, or Akmenrah, much good if they came back as decomposed bodies.

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*** Because the tablet was made specifically to bring Egyptian mummies back to life. Wouldn't do him, or Akmenrah, Ahkmenrah, much good if they came back as decomposed bodies.bodies.
**** Though it wears off every morning, so the question still stands



** Umm, mummies were created specifically to avoide decomposition. However they couldn't come back to life at all and remain mummies because Egyptians only left the heart in the body- and they tended to throw the brain away as useless.

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** Umm, mummies were created specifically to avoide avoid decomposition. However they couldn't come back to life at all and remain mummies because Egyptians only left the heart in the body- and they tended to throw the brain away as useless.



** Is it possible like Lancelot he's a fake that doesn't realize he is a fake? Given that his parents make zero mention of him in the third, and he didn't know the tablet's password (he claims it was changed but without Ak there how do we know that's the truth?)

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** Is it possible like Lancelot he's a fake that doesn't realize he is a fake? Given that his parents make zero mention of him in the third, and he didn't know the tablet's password (he claims it was changed but without Ak Ahk there how do we know that's the truth?)
*** Kahmunrah Rises Again has Merenkahre talk to him and acknowledge him as his son.



*** The Viking figureheads might not come to life if they're replicas because we don't know how many layers of representation the tablet looks through.



** Droids in ''Star Wars'' are never seen to use the Force, and can't even detect it. The Force is derived from the collective energies of life, not mechanisms. The animated exhibits may temporarily ''seem'' to be alive, but they're constructs, same as droids are, so the pseudo-Vader is out of luck there.

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** Droids in ''Star Wars'' are never seen to use the Force, and can't even detect it. The Force is derived from the collective energies of life, not mechanisms. The animated exhibits (that aren't taxidermy, dino skeletons (which aren't 100% real bones when in exhibits), or mummies) in may temporarily ''seem'' to be alive, but they're constructs, same as droids are, so the pseudo-Vader is out of luck there.
** Possibly a mix of no Force in the real world, no midi-chlorians in the figure, and the figures not really being alive.
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* Looking at Octavius' historical inspiration, we can see that he, as an exhibit, was made to replicate Augustus' time as a general. This is oddly interesting, because it suggests that the exhibits were made in the image of their historical counterparts at a certain time in their lives. Teddy Roosevelt also shows us that the exhibits recall some of their past lives, since Roosevelt talks about being the 26th President, Rough Rider, ect. (Of course, Roosevelt reveals (obviously) that he never did the things Teddy Roosevelt did, since he is wax- but he still knew about his past. Perhaps it came from Rebecca's talks about the exhibits from the first movie, or maybe the Tablet restores memories. Still, it's interesting because, if that is the case, does that mean the exhibits only know their historical memories up until the moment they were created to depict? Does Teddy remember running for a third term? Does Octavius ever know he's an emperor? What happened to Sacagawea's baby?

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* Looking at Octavius' historical inspiration, we can see that he, as an exhibit, was made to replicate Augustus' time as a general. This is oddly interesting, because it suggests that the exhibits were made in the image of their historical counterparts at a certain time in their lives. Teddy Roosevelt also shows us that the exhibits recall some of their past lives, since Roosevelt talks about being the 26th President, Rough Rider, ect. (Of course, Roosevelt reveals (obviously) that he never did the things Teddy Roosevelt did, since he is wax- but he still knew about his past. ) Perhaps it came from Rebecca's talks about the exhibits from the first movie, or maybe the Tablet restores memories. Still, it's interesting because, if that is the case, does that mean the exhibits only know their historical memories up until the moment they were created to depict? Does Teddy remember running for a third term? Does Octavius ever know he's an emperor? What happened to Sacagawea's baby?
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* The Pompeii scene was hilarious, but there is no way Octavius should habe known about Pompeii. It makes somewhat logical sense that he would have recognized it as a Roman city- not so much from the tug of history (how does that work?) but from the fact that Roman cities were built upon grid patterns and easily,recognizable to a Roman. Octavius historically would have died in 14 AD. Vesuvius did not erupt until 79 AD. He probably would have known about the city (Pompeii was known for its decadence and wealth), but not about the eruption. Unless, of course, he saw it somewhere online.

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* The Pompeii scene was hilarious, but there is no way Octavius should habe have known about Pompeii. It makes somewhat logical sense that he would have recognized it as a Roman city- not so much from the tug of history (how does that work?) but from the fact that Roman cities were built upon grid patterns and easily,recognizable to a Roman. Octavius historically would have died in 14 AD. Vesuvius did not erupt until 79 AD. He probably would have known about the city (Pompeii was known for its decadence and wealth), but not about the eruption. Unless, of course, he saw it somewhere online.
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* The Roman strategy used to fight the cowboys was unorganized and messy. Of course, it is a kids' movie, but a look at Roman formations would ha e been pretty epic and educational. The way Octavius had his men surround Larry in the first film shows that he knows these formations- which he must, considering the fact he is, after all, a general. The cowboys, especially with their lack of firepower, would have been easy fodder for the Roman swords in close formation. But of course, that wouldn't be in a children's movie. It would be neat to imagine, though.

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* The Roman strategy used to fight the cowboys was unorganized and messy. Of course, it is a kids' movie, but a look at Roman formations would ha e have been pretty epic and educational. The way Octavius had his men surround Larry in the first film shows that he knows these formations- which he must, considering the fact he is, after all, a general. The cowboys, especially with their lack of firepower, would have been easy fodder for the Roman swords in close formation. But of course, that wouldn't be in a children's movie. It would be neat to imagine, though.
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* If a kid left a toy in the museum, one would presume it would come to life after sunset like everything else inside, correct? So if a toy of something that doesn't exist in the real world was left in there (like a dragon or maybe even a Franchise/{{Pokemon}}), theoretically for however many nights that toy is left there, that thing would would, in fact, exist. [[RuleOfCool That would be so awesome.]] (Too bad it probably wouldn't happen if there's a third movie because they might get accused of [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory plagiarism]]).

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* If a kid left a toy in the museum, one would presume it would come to life after sunset like everything else inside, correct? So if a toy of something that doesn't exist in the real world was left in there (like a dragon or maybe even a Franchise/{{Pokemon}}), theoretically for however many nights that toy is left there, that thing would would, in fact, exist. [[RuleOfCool That would be so awesome.]] (Too bad it probably wouldn't happen if there's a third movie because they might get accused of [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory [[Franchise/ToyStory plagiarism]]).

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