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***** It's established when Joel returns to fix the ship that he didn't build Gypsy. Notice she seems to be the only one of the 'bots malfunctioning when the ship starts going haywire. Also, the SOL ''is'' a satillite, so it probably doesn't have the ability to land.
****** The bit about Gypsy above is incorrect. Gypsy breaks down because she's integrated with the ship's systems, but it was stated a few times during Joel's run that he built Gypsy, too. (Specifically, he built her before Crow and Tom). Cambot was probably constructed from an existing camera which was meant for communication and recording of (mad) scientific data.

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***** ** It's established when Joel returns to fix the ship that he didn't build Gypsy. Notice she seems to be the only one of the 'bots malfunctioning when the ship starts going haywire. Also, the SOL ''is'' a satillite, so it probably doesn't have the ability to land.
****** *** The bit about Gypsy above is incorrect. Gypsy breaks down because she's integrated with the ship's systems, but it was stated a few times during Joel's run that he built Gypsy, too. (Specifically, he built her before Crow and Tom). Cambot was probably constructed from an existing camera which was meant for communication and recording of (mad) scientific data.
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**** He ''crashed'' the Satellite, as part of the "being in an airplane crash makes women helpless, sex-starved and murmur a lot" experiment.
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** On a similar note, how come in the series finale, when M&TB think the SOL is about to self-destruct, every says "I love you" to each other, but NOBODY says "I love you" to Cambot! Sure, Servo didn't say "I love you" to Crow, but Crow called him out on it. I guess nobody loves Cambot.

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** On a similar note, how come in the series finale, when M&TB think the SOL is about to self-destruct, every everybody says "I love you" to each other, but NOBODY says "I love you" to Cambot! Sure, Servo didn't say "I love you" to Crow, but Crow called him out on it. I guess nobody loves Cambot.
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** On a similar note, how come in the series finale, when M&TB think the SOL is about to self-destruct, every says "I love you" to each other, but NOBODY says 'I love you to Cambot!" Sure, Servo didn't say "I love you" to Crow, but Crow called him out on it. I guess nobody loves Cambot.

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** On a similar note, how come in the series finale, when M&TB think the SOL is about to self-destruct, every says "I love you" to each other, but NOBODY says 'I "I love you you" to Cambot!" Cambot! Sure, Servo didn't say "I love you" to Crow, but Crow called him out on it. I guess nobody loves Cambot.
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**** I always just figured the 'special parts' he used were the electronics that actually made the bots, you know, move and talk and stuff. Their bodies were just cobbled together out of some of the random junk lying around the SOL.
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* How come this page out of any other is allowed to use an animated GIF?
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** On a similar note, how come in the series finale, when M&TB think the SOL is about to self-destruct, every says "I love you" to each other, but NOBODY says 'I love you to Cambot!" Sure, Servo didn't say "I love you" to Crow, but Crow called him out on it. I guess nobody loves Cambot.
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**Perhaps he was feeling shy that day and turned himself off before he received his gift.
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***** Well, the real reason was because between having to disassemble the Deep 13 set every season lest it collapse and seeing to all the other random junk scattered between the sets, they lost track of the Cambot prop--which, after all, they had needed exactly ones in all of the first five-and-a-half years to show in the opening sequence. The second one was similarly lost after two-and-a-half years of disuse for the same reasons. (More likely than not, they just thought the KTMA Cambot stank, though I quite like it. It's cute.) But, in-universe, it might've kept blowing fuses, and to make things easier for himself Joel kept simplifying the design, bringing Cambot from a full-fledged robot with a camera to a snake-like 'bot with a camera for a head to a floating [[{{Pokemon}} Pokéball]]. Brilliant.

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***** Well, the real reason was because between having to disassemble the Deep 13 set every season lest it collapse and seeing to all the other random junk scattered between the sets, they lost track of the Cambot prop--which, after all, they had needed exactly ones once in all of the first five-and-a-half years to show in the opening sequence. The second one was similarly lost after two-and-a-half years of disuse for the same reasons. (More likely than not, they just thought the KTMA Cambot stank, though I quite like it. It's cute.) But, in-universe, it might've kept blowing fuses, and to make things easier for himself Joel kept simplifying the design, bringing Cambot from a full-fledged robot with a camera to a snake-like 'bot with a camera for a head to a floating [[{{Pokemon}} Pokéball]]. Brilliant.
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* In "The Killer Shrews", why doesn't Cambot get a present?
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*** The show's writers deliberately ignored the fact that, in the gap between seasons seven and eight, the crew had apparently travelled ''five hundred years into the future'', to 2525, a time when apes had become the dominant species on Earth.
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***** Well, the real reason was because between having to disassemble the Deep 13 set every season lest it collapse and seeing to all the other random junk scattered between the sets, they lost track of the Cambot prop--which, after all, they had needed exactly ones in all of the first five-and-a-half years to show in the opening sequence. The second one was similarly lost after two-and-a-half years of disuse for the same reasons. (More likely than not, they just thought the KTMA Cambot stank, though I quite like it. It's cute.) But, in-universe, it might've kept blowing fuses, and to make things easier for himself Joel kept simplifying the design, bringing Cambot from a full-fledged robot with a camera to a snake-like 'bot with a camera for a head to a floating [[{{Pokémon}} Pokéball]]. Brilliant.

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***** Well, the real reason was because between having to disassemble the Deep 13 set every season lest it collapse and seeing to all the other random junk scattered between the sets, they lost track of the Cambot prop--which, after all, they had needed exactly ones in all of the first five-and-a-half years to show in the opening sequence. The second one was similarly lost after two-and-a-half years of disuse for the same reasons. (More likely than not, they just thought the KTMA Cambot stank, though I quite like it. It's cute.) But, in-universe, it might've kept blowing fuses, and to make things easier for himself Joel kept simplifying the design, bringing Cambot from a full-fledged robot with a camera to a snake-like 'bot with a camera for a head to a floating [[{{Pokémon}} [[{{Pokemon}} Pokéball]]. Brilliant.
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***** Well, the real reason was because between having to disassemble the Deep 13 set every season lest it collapse and seeing to all the other random junk scattered between the sets, they lost track of the Cambot prop--which, after all, they had needed exactly ones in all of the first five-and-a-half years to show in the opening sequence. The second one was similarly lost after two-and-a-half years of disuse for the same reasons. (More likely than not, they just thought the KTMA Cambot stank, though I quite like it. It's cute.) But, in-universe, it might've kept blowing fuses, and to make things easier for himself Joel kept simplifying the design, bringing Cambot from a full-fledged robot with a camera to a snake-like 'bot with a camera for a head to a floating [[{{Pokémon}} Pokéball]]. Brilliant.
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** Simple. ''[[LiteraryAgentHypothesis Everything]]'' [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis is based on a true story]], and all the main characters have time machines.
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** The hilarious part is that Mike and Joel have always been great friends and collaborators and are still rather close to this day. Mike even wanted to acknowledge the Fandumb by staging a mock rivalry between CinematicTitanic and RiffTrax. Joel disagreed, and so the rivalry is only in the minds of fans and even then mostly friendly
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*** The fact that the Mad can control the level of oxygen in every part of the ship and can remotely administer electric shocks to Joel and Mike if they refuse to comply.
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*** Joel said that he was kidding, he just wanted to see Crow's reaction.
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*** It gets worse, according to Uncle John's Bathroom Reader Plunges into Minnesota, Crow is an acronym for Cybernetic Remotely Operated Woman. MindScrew.
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*** IIRC, The Gizmonics Institute has an official policy of invention. The invention exchange isn't just something Joel and the Mads made up, it's an official (or at least traditional) part of working for the institute that all employees are expected to take part in, so the mads must've sent him some stuff up to use in inventions (which explains where he got all the stuff for his *other* inventions) that he used to make the bots.
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** According to a draft of TheMovie, Dr. Forrester explained that the original name was 'Satellite Orbital Laboratory', but Joel changed it just to annoy him. Way to stick it to the Mads, Joel.
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**** Canonically, The Satellite of Love just has a bunch of random stuff laying around, and [[LampshadeHanging no one is sure why]]. If you want a FanWank explanation, Deep 13 is similarly full of random crap, and [[MundaneUtility Pearl did once use the SOL to store a couch while she was redecorating]]. Perhaps Forrester and Earhart were using their cool satellite for personal failed invention storage prior to launch? Alternatively, [[MeaningfulName the Mads]] are [[ItWasHisSled mad]], and trying to figure out why they do anything may cause [[{{Music/Madness}} a similar condition]].
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*** So all the other stuff was just lying around? Or did the Mads take pity on Joel and allow him a shipment of miscellaneous crap with which to invent things?
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** The very early proto-episodes indeed show Joel taking a more active role in managing the ship's day-to-day functions. There's even an sketch where he offhandedly states that he's [[HiddenDepths trying to finish some complex calculations needed to make micro-adjustments to their orbit in order to avoid coming in contact with debris from a minor meteor shower due to pass by them]]. Presumably, Forrester and Earhart either didn't think of these things, or are just that insane/cruel.

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** The very early proto-episodes indeed show Joel taking a more active role in managing the ship's day-to-day functions. There's even an a sketch where he offhandedly states that he's [[HiddenDepths trying to finish some complex calculations needed to make micro-adjustments to their orbit in order to avoid coming in contact with debris from a minor meteor shower due to pass by them]]. Presumably, Forrester and Earhart either didn't think of these things, or are just that insane/cruel.

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** The questions predate Mike's intro, and they're just samples of the many things which you're far better off not worrying about. Also, he's [[ThatJustRaisesFurtherQuestions ordering a pizza in space]].



*** Also because Joel is notably GenreSavvy. He's watched enough science fiction to know that people [[SpaceMadness go crazy]] when trapped in space for long periods of time without companionship.



** Actually, I'm pretty sure it's bone shaped to [[RuleOfFunny accommodate the elaborate door sequence that separates the bridge from the theater]]; the interior set and hallway sequence came first. From an in-universe perspective, the long hall of doors forms a somewhat eccentric but ultra-fortified airlock, preventing depletion of oxygen and keeping the [[SoBadItsHorrible Deep Hurting]] safely contained. (Oh, and it's the "Satellite of Love" because inventor/janitor Joel Robinson [[WordOfGod liked Lou Reed]]. He gave his orbital prison a weirdly positive, pop-cultural inspired nickname because he is unflappable in his strangeness.)



** The very early proto-episodes indeed show Joel taking a more active role in managing the ship's day-to-day functions. There's even an sketch where he offhandedly states that he's [[HiddenDepths trying to finish some complex calculations needed to make micro-adjustments to their orbit in order to avoid coming in contact with debris from a minor meteor shower due to pass by them]]. Presumably, Forrester and Earhart either didn't think of these things, or are just that insane/cruel.



**** WordOfGod has it that the Satellite of Love was originally equipped with only small "micro-positioning thrusters" and was meant to be able to propel itself it to the far reaches of space, nor [[FridgeHorror survive re-entry]] should it somehow wind up in Earth's gravity. Any capacity it shows for either in seasons 8-10 is attributable to either nanites or NegativeContinuity.



****** The bit about Gypsy above is incorrect. Gypsy breaks down because she's integrated with the ship's systems, but it was stated a few times during Joel's run that he built Gypsy, too. (Specifically, he built her before Crow and Tom). Cambot was probably constructed from an existing camera which was meant for communication and recording of (mad) scientific data.



** Mike is a clean-cut blond and writing room overachiever whose incisive wit and verbal precision leads to ''tremendously'' polished riffing. Joel brown-haired memetic stoner and unfathomable oddball whose comedy is so far out of left field that even when it doesn't work, it is a wonder to behold. In an ideal world they'd still be working together, but since they aren't, the BettyAndVeronica contrast makes it tempting to take sides.



**** Also according to [[WordOfGod Trace Beaulieu]].



* Joel used the movie-controlling parts of the SOL to build the Bots. Wonderful, except how exactly did a Floralier flowerpot set, bowling pin, gumball machine, etc. allow the Mads to start and stop the movies?

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** This demands DarkFic. Make it happen, internet.
* Joel used the movie-controlling parts of the SOL to build the Bots. Wonderful, except how exactly did a Floralier flowerpot set, bowling pin, gumball machine, etc. allow the Mads to start and stop the movies? movies?
** He used both movie-controlling parts and non-movie-controlling parts in their construction, naturally.
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* Joel used the movie-controlling parts of the SOL to build the Bots. Wonderful, except how exactly did a Floralier flowerpot set, bowling pin, gumball machine, etc. allow the Mads to start and stop the movies?
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**** It's also a ShoutOut to the very first episode, which featured... ''The Crawling Eye.'' Of course, none of the actors who worked on the first episode were around for the last one, but Crow and Servo (the characters) are a little creeped out when they realize what's going on, IIRC...
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** [[DontExplainTheJoke Although I probably shouldn't do this,]] I'll clarify the above: SOL = "S**t Out Of Luck." Similarly, the ship being bone-shaped could be a reference to the crew's being, as [[{{Futurama}} another show]] would say, "boned."

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*** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint But the satellite in 2001 isn't bone-shaped at all!]]



*** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint But the satellite in 2001 isn't bone-shaped at all!]]
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** SOL is an acronym that also means... well, something very fitting.
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* Speaking of time, the rationale given for Mike not being able to use the time machine to escape the SOL is due to it emitting lethal levels of radiation. However, in subsequent episodes they keep sending people other than Mike back and forth through time. Either Mike is too stupid to notice that the radiation danger has passed and there's an obvious escape route in front of him or it only emits radiation when something is beamed ''out'', which means that [[FridgeHorror there are a lot of people being hurtled forwards in time and having their corpses sent back...]]

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