History Headscratchers / Metroid

9th May '18 6:00:43 PM IsaakBrass
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* Why are people discussing VideoGame/MetroidSamusReturns as if its canon? They're suggesting stuff like it confirms that the Prime games are canon, and that VideoGame/MetroidPrime4 will acknowledge it. Are you forgetting that this game was a remake to [[VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus an already existing title]]? The two games tell the same story, but in ways that can't possibly overlap. Only one of them can be canon, and I see no reason that Nintendo would de-canonize Metroid II just for some remake.

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* Why are people discussing VideoGame/MetroidSamusReturns as if its canon? They're suggesting stuff like it confirms that the Prime games are canon, and that VideoGame/MetroidPrime4 will acknowledge it. Are you forgetting that this game was a remake to [[VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus an already existing title]]? The two games tell the same story, but in ways that can't possibly overlap. Only one of them can be canon, and I see no reason that Nintendo would de-canonize Metroid II just for some remake.remake.
** For the same reason people consider VideoGame/MetroidZeroMission as canon. In the only other instance of a remake in the Metroid franchise, the new story overwrote the preexisting canon. Why would that change here?
24th Mar '18 4:58:02 PM nombretomado
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* Why are people so quick to say that Samus has the DNA of all the X-Viruses she absorbed? It's only stated that the Metroids ''ate'' the X-Virus, not that they obtained their DNA in doing so. It'd be like humans gaining the DNA of every animal and plant they ate. As for the Fusion Suit gaining upgrades back from absorption, that's more because the Core-X's had copied the existing data, which the suit regained, than absorbing the X's DNA. ItJustBugsMe that some tropers think Samus is some horrible chimera of a thousand different creatures when she "only" has human, Metroid, and Chozo DNA.

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* Why are people so quick to say that Samus has the DNA of all the X-Viruses she absorbed? It's only stated that the Metroids ''ate'' the X-Virus, not that they obtained their DNA in doing so. It'd be like humans gaining the DNA of every animal and plant they ate. As for the Fusion Suit gaining upgrades back from absorption, that's more because the Core-X's had copied the existing data, which the suit regained, than absorbing the X's DNA. ItJustBugsMe that some Some tropers think Samus is some horrible chimera of a thousand different creatures when she "only" has human, Metroid, and Chozo DNA.
23rd Mar '18 2:31:20 PM GarlicOverlord
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* Why are people discussing VideoGame/MetroidSamusReturns as if its canon? They're suggesting stuff like it confirms that the Prime games are canon, and that VideoGame/MetroidPrime4 will acknowledge it. Are you forgetting that this game was a remake to [[VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus an already existing title]]? The two games tell the same story, but in ways that can't possibly overlap. Only one of them can be canon, and I see no reason that Nintendo would de-canonize Metroid II just for some remake.
* Considering how immature the fanbase acts ([[https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/e3-2015-metroid-prime-federation-force-fan-petition-wants-nintendo-3ds-game-cancelled-1506600 ahem]]), and just the sheer fact that they flip out over nothing, why are they treated like the victims?

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* Why are people discussing VideoGame/MetroidSamusReturns as if its canon? They're suggesting stuff like it confirms that the Prime games are canon, and that VideoGame/MetroidPrime4 will acknowledge it. Are you forgetting that this game was a remake to [[VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus an already existing title]]? The two games tell the same story, but in ways that can't possibly overlap. Only one of them can be canon, and I see no reason that Nintendo would de-canonize Metroid II just for some remake.
* Considering how immature the fanbase acts ([[https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/e3-2015-metroid-prime-federation-force-fan-petition-wants-nintendo-3ds-game-cancelled-1506600 ahem]]), and just the sheer fact that they flip out over nothing, why are they treated like the victims?
remake.
20th Mar '18 4:23:58 PM GarlicOverlord
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* Considering how immature the fanbase acts ([[https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/e3-2015-metroid-prime-federation-force-fan-petition-wants-nintendo-3ds-game-cancelled-1506600 ahem]]), and just the sheer fact that they flip out over nothing, why are they treated like the victims? It genuinely pisses me off.

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* Considering how immature the fanbase acts ([[https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/e3-2015-metroid-prime-federation-force-fan-petition-wants-nintendo-3ds-game-cancelled-1506600 ahem]]), and just the sheer fact that they flip out over nothing, why are they treated like the victims? It genuinely pisses me off.victims?
20th Mar '18 3:39:49 PM GarlicOverlord
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* Why are people discussing VideoGame/MetroidSamusReturns as if its canon? They're suggesting stuff like it confirms that the Prime games are canon, and that VideoGame/MetroidPrime4 will acknowledge it. Are you forgetting that this game was a remake to [[VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus an already existing title]]? The two games tell the same story, but in ways that can't possibly overlap. Only one of them can be canon, and I see no reason that Nintendo would de-canonize Metroid II just for some remake.

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* Why are people discussing VideoGame/MetroidSamusReturns as if its canon? They're suggesting stuff like it confirms that the Prime games are canon, and that VideoGame/MetroidPrime4 will acknowledge it. Are you forgetting that this game was a remake to [[VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus an already existing title]]? The two games tell the same story, but in ways that can't possibly overlap. Only one of them can be canon, and I see no reason that Nintendo would de-canonize Metroid II just for some remake.remake.
* Considering how immature the fanbase acts ([[https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/e3-2015-metroid-prime-federation-force-fan-petition-wants-nintendo-3ds-game-cancelled-1506600 ahem]]), and just the sheer fact that they flip out over nothing, why are they treated like the victims? It genuinely pisses me off.
20th Mar '18 10:13:19 AM HeroofHylia
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*** The Nintendo Power Player's Guide mis-typed, and this has been repeatedly confirmed by Nintendo itself. All specs given from the development teams have always been on the suit itself as 190 cm(6'3) and 90 kg(198-200 lbs), never Samus. Being that you have to account for internal foot lift of two to three inches at the pad, another inch and a half to two inches for the armor boot heel, And then an inch to inch and a half armor thickness, and you get a needed five to six inches required allowance that she has to be smaller than the suit for a snug fit. So Samus herself is no more than 5'9, 5'10 pushing it, which is still a respectably tall height for a woman of implied Irish descent.
21st Feb '18 11:38:21 AM GarlicOverlord
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*** [[Main/SarcasmMode Sure, that's the reason.]]



** That was all before Samaus found out that the Federation had apparently started acting like the Space Pirates and we all know how she feels about the Space Pirates. When she brought the infant Metroid to the Ceres station, it was literally the only Metroid left in the universe and it was an infant, having only hatched mere hours previously so it was relatively harmless. Plus, Samus had assumed that the Federation would try to study and replicate the Metroids mysterious energy abilities for the betterment of the galaxy since, you know, they're supposed to be the good guys. Come Other M and Fusion, we find out that not only are they not doing that, but are in fact breeding them for military applications (which the Pirates tried and failed to do) but were also planning to use the much more dangerous X Parasites similarly. And even if the Pirates managed to keep the Metroids relatively secure and controlled, the Federation doing the same isn't the point. The point is the blatant hypocrisy of sending Samus on a genocide mission in order to prevent the Pirates from using the Metroids, and then turning around and pulling such an incredibly vapor-brained stunt, basically going "duh, we changed our minds, fuck you, Samus".

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** That was all before Samaus found out that the Federation had apparently started acting like the Space Pirates and we all know how she feels about the Space Pirates. When she brought the infant Metroid to the Ceres station, it was literally the only Metroid left in the universe and it was an infant, having only hatched mere hours previously so it was relatively harmless. Plus, Samus had assumed that the Federation would try to study and replicate the Metroids mysterious energy abilities for the betterment of the galaxy since, you know, they're supposed to be the good guys. Come Other M and Fusion, we find out that not only are they not doing that, but are in fact breeding them for military applications (which the Pirates tried and failed to do) but were also planning to use the much more dangerous X Parasites similarly. And even if the Pirates managed to keep the Metroids relatively secure and controlled, the Federation doing the same isn't the point. The point is the blatant hypocrisy of sending Samus on a genocide mission in order to prevent the Pirates from using the Metroids, and then turning around and pulling such an incredibly vapor-brained stunt, basically going "duh, we changed our minds, fuck you, Samus".Samus".
* Why are people discussing VideoGame/MetroidSamusReturns as if its canon? They're suggesting stuff like it confirms that the Prime games are canon, and that VideoGame/MetroidPrime4 will acknowledge it. Are you forgetting that this game was a remake to [[VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus an already existing title]]? The two games tell the same story, but in ways that can't possibly overlap. Only one of them can be canon, and I see no reason that Nintendo would de-canonize Metroid II just for some remake.
18th Feb '18 3:03:01 PM nombretomado
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** Prime 3 shows that the arm cannon can open up like a claw to "grab" things, making clever use of the {{kibble|s and bits}} from how it opens up to shoot missiles. {{Retro| Studios}}[[{{Retcon}} active]] explanation?

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** Prime 3 shows that the arm cannon can open up like a claw to "grab" things, making clever use of the {{kibble|s and bits}} from how it opens up to shoot missiles. {{Retro| Creator/{{Retro| Studios}}[[{{Retcon}} active]] explanation?
11th Nov '17 5:42:30 PM Superfield
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** The Galactic Federation of Metroid might not have progressed quite as far as the Galactic Federation of Star Trek. They are certainly aware of other species, but it could be that there hasn't been enough cross-species interactions in general for a mixed military group to be something that people are comfortable with, and there's a separate branch of the GF for every race. It could also be that there's just that many more humans than other species. Perhaps humans were far more technologically advanced, and the other races are still trying to catch up, with only a handful of specialists from each who were able to adapt quickly enough (the other hunters from Prime Hunters and Prime 3). There might be some bits of lore that could shed some light on this, but there are plenty of potential explanations.
10th Nov '17 1:23:03 PM dieseldragons
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*** The self-destruct sequence is a given, but its size would be a case of RealityIsUnrealistic. The station is actually ''[[https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/metroid/images/5/5b/BSL_research_station.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20070723165250 [=SR388=]'s asteroid moon]]''. An impact event in real life is always devastating, even if the impactor is smaller and of lesser mass, mainly due to the sheer velocity of said object. Orbit rapidly degrading, Samus and Adam ''rammed it'' straight into [=SR388=], and detonating the core would have finished the job.
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