History Headscratchers / Metroid

23rd Sep '17 3:39:20 AM Deadpoolio
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* Why does Samus have such a drastic change in her stance towards trying to control and experiment on Metroids? In ''Fusion'' and ''Other M'' she seems to view the Federation experimenting on Metroids to be about as dangerous and stupid as Weyland-Yutani trying to benefit from xenomorphs. But earlier, she herself spared the last Metroid on [=SR338=] and delivered it specifically to be used for research! While the research station was destroyed shortly thereafter, it was not because of anything the Metroid itself did. Plus, the Space Pirates had previously domesticated Metroids very successfully. While Mother Brain's psychic powers were a major factor in that, this does not necessarily mean all attempts to control Metroids with other means are doomed to fail. The Federation was at least cautious enough to keep their Metroids contained on a space habitat, not on a populated planet.

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* Why does Samus have such a drastic change in her stance towards trying to control and experiment on Metroids? In ''Fusion'' and ''Other M'' she seems to view the Federation experimenting on Metroids to be about as dangerous and stupid as Weyland-Yutani trying to benefit from xenomorphs. But earlier, she herself spared the last Metroid on [=SR338=] and delivered it specifically to be used for research! While the research station was destroyed shortly thereafter, it was not because of anything the Metroid itself did. Plus, the Space Pirates had previously domesticated Metroids very successfully. While Mother Brain's psychic powers were a major factor in that, this does not necessarily mean all attempts to control Metroids with other means are doomed to fail. The Federation was at least cautious enough to keep their Metroids contained on a space habitat, not on a populated planet.planet.
**That was all before Samaus found out that the Federation had apparently started acting like the Space Pirates and we all know how she feels about the Space Pirates. When she brought the infant Metroid to the Ceres station, it was literally the only Metroid left in the universe and it was an infant, having only hatched mere hours previously so it was relatively harmless. Plus, Samus had assumed that the Federation would try to study and replicate the Metroids mysterious energy abilities for the betterment of the galaxy since, you know, they're supposed to be the good guys. Come Other M and Fusion, we find out that not only are they not doing that, but are in fact breeding them for military applications (which the Pirates tried and failed to do) but were also planning to use the much more dangerous X Parasites similarly. And even if the Pirates managed to keep the Metroids relatively secure and controlled, the Federation doing the same isn't the point. The point is the blatant hypocrisy of sending Samus on a genocide mission in order to prevent the Pirates from using the Metroids, and then turning around and pulling such an incredibly vapor-brained stunt, basically going "duh, we changed our minds, fuck you, Samus".
6th Aug '17 5:42:32 PM timotaka
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* Why does Samus have such a drastic change in her stance towards trying to control and experiment on Metroids? In ''Fusion'' and ''Other M'' she seems to view the Federation experimenting on Metroids to be about as dangerous and stupid as Weyland-Yutani trying to benefit from xenomorphs. But earlier, she herself spared the last Metroid on SR338 and delivered it specifically to be used for research! While the research station was destroyed shortly thereafter, it was not because of anything the Metroid itself did. Plus, the Space Pirates had previously domesticated Metroids very successfully. While Mother Brain's psychic powers were a major factor in that, this does not necessarily mean all attempts to control Metroids with other means are doomed to fail. The Federation was at least cautious enough to keep their Metroids contained on a space habitat, not on a populated planet.

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* Why does Samus have such a drastic change in her stance towards trying to control and experiment on Metroids? In ''Fusion'' and ''Other M'' she seems to view the Federation experimenting on Metroids to be about as dangerous and stupid as Weyland-Yutani trying to benefit from xenomorphs. But earlier, she herself spared the last Metroid on SR338 [=SR338=] and delivered it specifically to be used for research! While the research station was destroyed shortly thereafter, it was not because of anything the Metroid itself did. Plus, the Space Pirates had previously domesticated Metroids very successfully. While Mother Brain's psychic powers were a major factor in that, this does not necessarily mean all attempts to control Metroids with other means are doomed to fail. The Federation was at least cautious enough to keep their Metroids contained on a space habitat, not on a populated planet.
6th Aug '17 5:42:10 PM timotaka
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* Why do you pretty much never see non-humans in the Galactic Federation? Apparently it was founded by many species, but the ships you run into seem to be crewed entirely by humans.

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* Why do you pretty much never see non-humans in the Galactic Federation? Apparently it was founded by many species, but the ships you run into seem to be crewed entirely by humans.humans.
* Why does Samus have such a drastic change in her stance towards trying to control and experiment on Metroids? In ''Fusion'' and ''Other M'' she seems to view the Federation experimenting on Metroids to be about as dangerous and stupid as Weyland-Yutani trying to benefit from xenomorphs. But earlier, she herself spared the last Metroid on SR338 and delivered it specifically to be used for research! While the research station was destroyed shortly thereafter, it was not because of anything the Metroid itself did. Plus, the Space Pirates had previously domesticated Metroids very successfully. While Mother Brain's psychic powers were a major factor in that, this does not necessarily mean all attempts to control Metroids with other means are doomed to fail. The Federation was at least cautious enough to keep their Metroids contained on a space habitat, not on a populated planet.
18th Mar '17 7:35:12 AM Doug86
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*** Agreed. Think about it, considering HOW MUCH R&D dollars we already spend on penis pills, bust enhancement, and hair care products, there's no doubt much of modern-day hygienical troubles have been solved in the future! And then you add Chozo tech into the mix (at least for members of the military) and you have bodily maintenance that is quite possibly even easier than The Jetsons, even when in the midst of battle. See also Warhammer40k or at least the Sisters anyway (since most of the men have standard military cuts.)

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*** Agreed. Think about it, considering HOW MUCH R&D dollars we already spend on penis pills, bust enhancement, and hair care products, there's no doubt much of modern-day hygienical troubles have been solved in the future! And then you add Chozo tech into the mix (at least for members of the military) and you have bodily maintenance that is quite possibly even easier than The Jetsons, even when in the midst of battle. See also Warhammer40k TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 or at least the Sisters anyway (since most of the men have standard military cuts.)
26th Oct '16 10:41:45 PM Akaihiryuu
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*** Further nitpick: The morph ball is about half of Samus's normal height in the 3D games too. Any apparent difference is actually caused by the camera. If you carefully compare Samus's height with an object in the background, both in and out of morph ball form, you will see that the morph ball is close to half of Samus's normal height. The sweeping camera angle and zoom change when going in and out of morph ball causes some perspective distortion that make the morph ball look smaller when it actually isn't.
26th Oct '16 10:38:03 PM Akaihiryuu
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** In the Prime Trilogy, there is an X-Ray Visor that allows us to clearly see the bones of Samus's right arm and hand under the cannon.

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** In the Prime Trilogy, there is an X-Ray Visor that allows us to clearly see the bones of Samus's right arm and hand under the cannon. It shows that Samus can select different beams by moving her right hand into different positions. The original Metroid Prime has the beam icons show the hand position required to activate that beam.
12th Sep '16 9:27:46 AM Sneekypants
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***The Federation isn't exactly a shining pillar of ethics. They probably captured some more Space Pirates after the bottle ship went under and started experimenting on them and Ridley's corpse at BSL.
6th Sep '16 6:43:30 PM Kayube
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** Samus is "eating" the X the same way a Metroid does, turning it's mass into energy for herself, and thus for her suit (the two are linked, as shown in Fusion's opening stating parts of her old suit had to be surgically removed). The abilities, on the other hand, are not being absorbed directly into her, but rather into the suit (the X has to pass through the suit before Samus can "eat" it). The core of the Fusion suit is still the adaptable, modular Chozo tech, so it somehow analyzes and incorporates that data into a power-up for the suit itself.

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** Samus is "eating" the X the same way a Metroid does, turning it's mass into energy for herself, and thus for her suit (the two are linked, as shown in Fusion's opening stating parts of her old suit had to be surgically removed). The abilities, on the other hand, are not being absorbed directly into her, but rather into the suit (the X has to pass through the suit before Samus can "eat" it). The core of the Fusion suit is still the adaptable, modular Chozo tech, so it somehow analyzes and incorporates that data into a power-up for the suit itself.itself.
* Why do you pretty much never see non-humans in the Galactic Federation? Apparently it was founded by many species, but the ships you run into seem to be crewed entirely by humans.
21st Aug '16 8:13:26 PM Drope
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*** It has already been confirmed in [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2004/08/06/the-art-of-prime?page=5 developer interviews that the Space Pirates '''are''' a single species]]. It's just that they are quite diverse (like dogs and humans, albeit far more exaggerated). It's also worth noting that they do perform genetic experiments on themselves in order to increase their combat ability, which might also further explain their visual diversity.

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*** It has already been confirmed in [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2004/08/06/the-art-of-prime?page=5 developer interviews that the Space Pirates '''are''' "are" a single species]]. It's just that they are quite diverse (like dogs and humans, albeit far more exaggerated). It's also worth noting that they do perform genetic experiments on themselves in order to increase their combat ability, which might also further explain their visual diversity.
21st Aug '16 8:04:00 PM Drope
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*** It has already been confirmed in [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2004/08/06/the-art-of-prime?page=5 developer interviews that the Space Pirates '''are''' a single species]]. It's just that they are quite diverse (like dogs and humans, albeit far more exaggerated). It's also worth noting that they do perform genetic experiments on themselves in order to increase their combat ability, which might also explain further all those biological differences.

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*** It has already been confirmed in [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2004/08/06/the-art-of-prime?page=5 developer interviews that the Space Pirates '''are''' a single species]]. It's just that they are quite diverse (like dogs and humans, albeit far more exaggerated). It's also worth noting that they do perform genetic experiments on themselves in order to increase their combat ability, which might also further explain further all those biological differences.their visual diversity.
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