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*** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4'' it's stated that most of Big Boss's career including Operation Snake Eater was declassified and was met with incredible interest in 2015 with many fictional books being written about his life, so it's possible that now an entire new generation can learn of The Boss's "betrayal"

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*** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4'' ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' it's stated that most of Big Boss's career including Operation Snake Eater was declassified and was met with incredible interest in 2015 with many fictional books being written about his life, so it's possible that now an entire new generation can learn of The Boss's "betrayal"
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** Or the fact his backpack has the initials '''US''' on every single pouch attached to it - and the fact the MK22 Hush Puppy is an official American sidearm. True, he is unlikely to drop his supply belt and his gun but it still destroys the whole ghostly effect Zero is going for doesn't it?

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** Or the fact his backpack has the initials '''US''' on every single pouch attached to it - and the fact the MK22 [=MK22=] Hush Puppy is an official American sidearm. True, he is unlikely to drop his supply belt and his gun but it still destroys the whole ghostly effect Zero is going for doesn't it?



*** Minor side note, the MK22 Hush Puppy was in the process of being adopted by the US military so the US ARMY labeled helmet was the only incriminating evidence to speak of as the gun that Snake was using would have been unknown to the Russians at that time.

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*** Minor side note, the MK22 [=MK22=] Hush Puppy was in the process of being adopted by the US military so the US ARMY labeled helmet was the only incriminating evidence to speak of as the gun that Snake was using would have been unknown to the Russians at that time.



*** But if you leave it (say, you have an inventory full of non-perishable stuff already and just wanted MK22 suppressors/ammo), then let them wake up, they run over to it and excitedly eat it.

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*** But if you leave it (say, you have an inventory full of non-perishable stuff already and just wanted MK22 [=MK22=] suppressors/ammo), then let them wake up, they run over to it and excitedly eat it.



** They're not Bond henchmen. They're Russian soldiers trying to kill a spy. They may be stationed under Volgin but they don't owe him any loyalty beyond him outranking them. He isn't a Load-BearingBoss, soldiers aren't going to throw down their guns and go "good game everyone!" just because their colonel is dead; they still have national security and duty to fall back on.

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** They're not Bond henchmen. They're Russian soldiers trying to kill a spy. They may be stationed under Volgin but they don't owe him any loyalty beyond him outranking them. He isn't a Load-BearingBoss, LoadBearingBoss, soldiers aren't going to throw down their guns and go "good game everyone!" just because their colonel is dead; they still have national security and duty to fall back on.
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*** If the devs anticipated that being a problem, couldn't they just make the ranking challenge involve taking n+1 injuries, rather than n injuries?
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* Was The End always a pacifist? Or did he turn into one at some point?

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* Was The End always a pacifist? TechnicalPacifist? Or did he turn into one at some point?

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** If its any consolation as well, you can get a [[MoreDakka M63]] after you break out, unless you took a detour a few hours ago to Syvatogornyj East and picked it up there. There should be one in an small armory just north of the manhole entrance to the sewers in Groznyj Grad.

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** If its any consolation as well, you can get a [[MoreDakka M63]] after you break out, unless you took a detour a few hours ago to Syvatogornyj East and picked it up there. There should be one in an small armory armoury just north of the manhole entrance to the sewers in Groznyj Grad.



* It just hit me, after the game being nearly 20 years old. So Sokolov was originally smuggled out over the Berlin Wall, but the West was forced to return him due to the Cuban Missile Crisis. Basically, the USSR was willing to escalate to near-nuclear war to retrieve a scientist who would create a nigh-unbeatable trump card weapon for them in the Shagohod. Now let's say if Snake had actually been successful in the Virtuous Mission and exfiltrated with Sokolov via the Fulton balloon (given that he was later forced to deploy it from the side of that river, I don't think it would have been unreasonable to try it right from the Rassvet area, as opposed to wherever they were headed as ordered by Major Zero, probably Dremuchij South). Well, what would stop the USSR from simply forcing another nuclear Mexican Standoff to demand Sokolov's return yet again? I understand, of course, that Volgin and the Brezhnev faction were the ones who pushed Kruschev to originally retrieve Sokolov for their own trump card against both Kruschev and the West. And Kruschev's political/military power was weakened so that perhaps he couldn't just send a Spetsnaz team in to assassinate Volgin and his underlings. Or worse, risk using civil war as a means to try and kill them. But weren't there other avenues to explore to take Volgin out? I know the story as it played out is the option they went with, but what if Snake had never been intercepted by The Boss on the bridge?

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* It just hit me, after the game being nearly 20 years old. So Sokolov was originally smuggled out over the Berlin Wall, but the West was forced to return him due to the Cuban Missile Crisis. Basically, the USSR was willing to escalate to near-nuclear war to retrieve a scientist who would create a nigh-unbeatable trump card weapon for them in the Shagohod. Now let's say if Snake had actually been successful in the Virtuous Mission and exfiltrated with Sokolov via the Fulton balloon (given that he was later forced to deploy it from the side of that river, I don't think it would have been unreasonable to try it right from the Rassvet area, as opposed to wherever they were headed as ordered by Major Zero, probably Dremuchij South). Well, what would stop the USSR from simply forcing another nuclear Mexican Standoff to demand Sokolov's return yet again? I understand, of course, that Volgin and the Brezhnev faction were the ones who pushed Kruschev to originally retrieve Sokolov for their own trump card against both Kruschev and the West. And Kruschev's political/military power was weakened so that perhaps he couldn't just send a Spetsnaz team in to assassinate Volgin and his underlings. Or worse, risk using civil war as a means to try and kill them. But weren't there other avenues to explore to take Volgin out? I know the story as it played out is the option they went with, but what if Snake had never been intercepted by The Boss on the bridge?bridge?
* Was The End always a pacifist? Or did he turn into one at some point?
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** It also bears mentioning that at least one of the ranking challenges requires you to take a minimum number of serious injuries. The game already has the beating by The Boss on the bridge, and the ordeal after the torture scene contribute several serious injuries to that count. So comparatively, it lets you shrug off a horse stamp to the hand, so that you have a bit of breathing room (and actually get to take/avoid some of the remaining injuries at least somewhat by choice, in gameplay, rather than have too many be imposed in cutscenes).
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* It just hit me, after the game being nearly 20 years old. So Sokolov was originally smuggled out over the Berlin Wall, but the West was forced to return him due to the Cuban Missile Crisis. Basically, the USSR was willing to escalate to near-nuclear war to retrieve a scientist who would create a nigh-unbeatable trump card weapon for them in the Shagohod. Now let's say if Snake had actually been successful in the Virtuous Mission and exfiltrated with Sokolov via the Fulton balloon (given that he was later forced to deploy it from the side of that river, I don't think it would have been unreasonable to try it right from the Rassvet area, as opposed to wherever they were headed as ordered by Major Zero, probably Dremuchij South). Well, what would stop the USSR from simply forcing another nuclear Mexican Standoff to demand Sokolov's return yet again? I understand, of course, that Volgin and the Brezhnev faction were the ones who pushed Kruschev to originally retrieve Sokolov for their own trump card against both Kruschev and the West. And Kruschev's political/military power was weakened so that he couldn't just send a Spetsnaz team in to assassinate Volgin and his underlings. Or worse, risk civil war as a means to try and kill them. But weren't there other avenues to explore to take Volgin out? I know the game as it played out is the option they went with, but what if Snake had never been intercepted by The Boss on the bridge?

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* It just hit me, after the game being nearly 20 years old. So Sokolov was originally smuggled out over the Berlin Wall, but the West was forced to return him due to the Cuban Missile Crisis. Basically, the USSR was willing to escalate to near-nuclear war to retrieve a scientist who would create a nigh-unbeatable trump card weapon for them in the Shagohod. Now let's say if Snake had actually been successful in the Virtuous Mission and exfiltrated with Sokolov via the Fulton balloon (given that he was later forced to deploy it from the side of that river, I don't think it would have been unreasonable to try it right from the Rassvet area, as opposed to wherever they were headed as ordered by Major Zero, probably Dremuchij South). Well, what would stop the USSR from simply forcing another nuclear Mexican Standoff to demand Sokolov's return yet again? I understand, of course, that Volgin and the Brezhnev faction were the ones who pushed Kruschev to originally retrieve Sokolov for their own trump card against both Kruschev and the West. And Kruschev's political/military power was weakened so that perhaps he couldn't just send a Spetsnaz team in to assassinate Volgin and his underlings. Or worse, risk using civil war as a means to try and kill them. But weren't there other avenues to explore to take Volgin out? I know the game story as it played out is the option they went with, but what if Snake had never been intercepted by The Boss on the bridge?

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