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28th Apr '16 8:03:39 AM TheFellMind
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[[folder:Status of HYDRA]]
* So ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' keeps showing [[{{Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E11Aftershocks}} Coulson's revived S.H.I.E.L.D.]] and [[{{Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS3E18TheSingularity}} Talbot's ATCU]] frequently dealing HYDRA [[CurbStompBattle curbstompings]] to the point that "the heads aren't growing back", and yet in the MCU films, HYDRA still retains enough clout, influence and resources to [[{{Film/AntMan}} buy Pym Particle technology]] to [[SequelHook some unspecified end]] and [[{{Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar}} meddle with the Avengers]] in a case of LetsYouAndHimFight. I get that HYDRA has been [[AncientConspiracy enduring for centuries if not millennia]] and they have cells, factions and benefactors [[WeAreEverywhere all over the world]], but what's with the increasingly divergent portrayals and narratives? Is it genuine [[InternalReveal in-universe confusion and ambiguity]], or is it just another case of [[RightHandVersusLeftHand the film and television series]] [[ArmedWithCanon refusing to play nice with one another]]?
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28th Dec '15 1:17:03 PM Discar
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*** Because the Inhumans are not directly linked to a franchise owned by another studio. They are their own separate group. The Shi'ar are enemies/allies of the X-Men, while the Badoon are connected primarily to the Fantastic Four (just like the Skrulls). Fox doesn't have to use every character/race to still have the rights to them.

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*** ** Because the Inhumans are not directly linked to a franchise owned by another studio. They are their own separate group. The Shi'ar are enemies/allies of the X-Men, while the Badoon are connected primarily to the Fantastic Four (just like the Skrulls). Fox doesn't have to use every character/race to still have the rights to them.
28th Dec '15 9:07:48 AM lorgskyegon
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*** Because the Inhumans are not directly linked to a franchise owned by another studio. They are their own separate group. The Shi'ar are enemies/allies of the X-Men, while the Badoon are connected primarily to the Fantastic Four (just like the Skrulls). Fox doesn't have to use every character/race to still have the rights to them.
22nd Dec '15 7:44:00 PM Discar
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*** Not to mention that the comment is made about alien dangers. Well, what's the one big alien group they've met recently? Oh yeah, Asgardians. It's not a big stretch to think that they are planning on how to use those weapons against the Asgardians if THEY feel it is justified.

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*** ** Not to mention that the comment is made about alien dangers. Well, what's the one big alien group they've met recently? Oh yeah, Asgardians. It's not a big stretch to think that they are planning on how to use those weapons against the Asgardians if THEY feel it is justified.
22nd Dec '15 7:16:40 PM tomandtish
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*** Not to mention that the comment is made about alien dangers. Well, what's the one big alien group they've met recently? Oh yeah, Asgardians. It's not a big stretch to think that they are planning on how to use those weapons against the Asgardians if THEY feel it is justified.
1st Dec '15 8:17:40 AM babyhenchy1
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** We also have a ''Series/JessicaJones'' series coming out. She was a superhero in the past, although it remains to be seen how long she was a hero or if SHIELD knew of her.

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** We also have a ''Series/JessicaJones'' ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' series coming out. She was a superhero in the past, although it remains to be seen how long she was a hero or if SHIELD knew of her.
25th Sep '15 11:23:02 AM Tuckerscreator
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** I think it's mentioned that NATO apprehended Strucker's HYDRA men after the Avengers captured the base. So they might be one of the Avengers' overseers or affiliates.
25th Sep '15 7:39:05 AM MrDeath
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** The Avengers aren't going after criminals. They go after world-level threats, like Hydra and Ultron. Also, yes. This is basically the plot of the upcoming Civil War movie.
24th Sep '15 5:34:14 PM StormC
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[[folder:Avengers legality]]
* So now that S.H.I.E.L.D. has folded (which the Avengers was initially a branch of and thus had someone to hold them responsible for in the eyes of the government), what is the legal jurisdiction for the Avengers? It seems that Stark Industries has picked up a lot of the slack for S.H.I.E.L.D.'s brand of peacekeeping (even though that means global security goes from a public sector to a private one which has its own problems, especially with someone as infamously reckless as Stark), but from most of the world governments' viewpoints, the Avengers are just a bunch of friends of Stark's that he funds to run around and beat up criminals. Who's arresting and detaining the criminals the Avengers defeat (especially superhuman ones like the Abomination), or debriefing them so they aren't just killing people in droves during missions and causing tons of casualties? Age Of Ultron has Mariah Hill mention that Banner is possibly going to be arrested for the incident in Africa, but that's the only thing we get. Otherwise the world governments seem to just let them run loose and make their own rules.
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11th Sep '15 5:35:16 PM AP
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** We also have a ''Series/JessicaJones'' series coming out. She was a superhero in the past, although it remains to be seen how long she was a hero or if SHIELD knew of her.
** It was mentioned above that Ant-Man was operating in the past, but the recent movie also confirmed that Wasp was on missions alongside him.
** Then there's the ''Comicbook/BlackPanther'' legacy. The ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' movie will have Panther and possibly his father T'Chaka. With an entire nation having superhero kings, it's likely SHIELD has been aware for decades.
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