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22nd Sep '17 2:36:52 PM Hawkeye86
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** It's not confirmed as of now.
20th Sep '17 11:49:04 AM GrigorII
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[[folder:ABC's "Jessica Jones-esque" new series]]
* I have read [[http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/08/24/abc-developing-jessica-jones-esque-marvel-television-series/ here]] that ABC is working with Marvel on a new series, with a tone similar to Jessica Jones. Is it known who would be the main character of such a series, or is it up for WMG for now?
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18th Sep '17 8:16:33 AM Hawkeye86
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** Assuming none of the above explanations suit your fancy, you might say it's connected to the folder below involving multiple "sub"-universes within the MCU. The street-level segments of the universe can mention a real president so the more-everyday characters can talk about things normal people might talk about. The segments involved in the real political side of things, where they're likely to meet real politicians, use a fictional president to stop the whole thing seeming absurd.
14th Sep '17 12:58:14 AM Hjortron18
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** It is a popular theory that Steve was able to lift it, but decided not to, maybe because he saw Thor's shocked reaction and did not want to embarrass him or draw any attention to himself (Thor was basically boasting that he was sure no one of the Avengers could lift it). Joss Whedon himself hinted this theory when he was asked this question ("Are you sure he could not lift it? Or did he simply stop?") so this is my canon now. But I guess we can neven know for sure now, since RIP Mjölnir.
13th Sep '17 9:50:40 PM MadAnthony94
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* Now here's a follow up. Why exactly can't Steve lift the hammer in ''Age of Ultron''? Thor had trouble his first go around because he forgot his duty to self-sacrifice in defense of those he has to protect. Steve was already willing to fall on a grenade to save others before he got his powers. By what standard is he not worthy? What exactly has Thor done that Cap hasn't?


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*** Well, HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic.


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** Assuming none of the above explanations suit your fancy, you might say it's connected to the folder below involving multiple "sub"-universes within the MCU. The street-level segments of the universe can mention a real president so the more-everyday characters can talk about things normal people might talk about. The segments involved in the real political side of things, where they're likely to meet real politicians, use a fictional president to stop the whole thing seeming absurd.


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** Having the universe carved up into segments is actually pretty true to the comics, so it may be unintentionally accurate. It's usually treated as a special occasion in the comics when mutant affairs, Avengers affairs, cosmic affairs, supernatural affairs, or all of the above intersect with each other, even if academically we know they're all coexisting and could meet up any time if they wanted to.
5th Sep '17 10:52:28 PM MadAnthony94
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* In the same vein... the World Security Council. So who are they? It sounds like they were going for the UN Security Council and simply didn't get the approval to just come out and say it. Pierce is called "Secretary", implying that he's part of the President's Cabinet, which would appear to back that up since the American UN Ambassador has a permanent seat on the real life Security Council... but then in ''Civil War'' when discussing the accords Tony seems to differentiate between the World Security Council and the UN. So, exactly who are they? Whence cometh their authority- if Pierce isn't a Cabinet member, then exactly how'd he get that kind of authority in the first place, and ditto all the other Councilmembers?

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* In the same vein... the World Security Council. So who are they? It sounds like they were going for the UN Security Council and simply didn't get the approval to just come out and say it. Pierce is called "Secretary", implying that he's part of the President's Cabinet, which would appear to back that up since the American UN Ambassador has a permanent seat on the real life Security Council... but then in ''Civil War'' when discussing the accords Tony seems to differentiate between the World Security Council and the UN. So, exactly who are they? Whence cometh their authority- if Pierce isn't a Cabinet member, then exactly how'd who decided he get that kind gets to be in charge of authority in the first place, and ditto a huge espionage network? Same question for all the other Councilmembers?
Councilmembers.
5th Sep '17 10:51:15 PM MadAnthony94
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* In the same vein... the World Security Council. So who are they? It sounds like they were going for the UN Security Council and simply didn't get the approval to just come out and say it. Pierce is called "Secretary", implying that he's part of the President's Cabinet, which would appear to back that up since the American UN Ambassador has a permanent seat on the real life Security Council... but then in ''Civil War'' when discussing the accords Tony seems to differentiate between the World Security Council and the UN. So, exactly who are they? Whence cometh their authority- if Pierce isn't a Cabinet member, then exactly how'd he get that kind of authority in the first place, and ditto all the other Councilmembers?
4th Sep '17 11:24:26 PM Hawkeye86
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** It can also come down to contracts. For example does Chloe Bennett have a clause in her contract to play Quake outside of ''Agents of SHIELD'' and if so are there stipulations to it? Because if she doesn't the higher ups might not feel its worth the effort to rewrite it. On a similiar note if the movie actors have no clause about showing up on a TV show. It may be too expensive to add them to the cast, even briefly.

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** It can also come down to contracts. For example does Chloe Bennett have a clause in her contract to play Quake outside of ''Agents of SHIELD'' and if so are there stipulations to it? Because if she doesn't the higher ups might not feel its worth the effort to rewrite it. On a similiar similar note if the movie actors have no clause about showing up on a TV show. It show it may be too expensive to add them to the cast, even briefly.
4th Sep '17 11:23:34 PM Hawkeye86
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[[folder:What is all this legal redtape?]]

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*** Furthermore, when it comes to Netflix being separated from either ABC or Cinematic, it's due to reasons of tone. Netflix as a whole is aimed at an adult audience and contains several mature topics, so Marvel Studios can't risk a little kid watching a Netflix show because either Captain America or Quake made a cameo there. It's the same reason that, in DC Comics, kept Vertigo separate from the main DC Universe from so long.

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*** ** Furthermore, when it comes to Netflix being separated from either ABC or Cinematic, it's due to reasons of tone. Netflix as a whole is aimed at an adult audience and contains several mature topics, so Marvel Studios can't risk a little kid watching a Netflix show because either Captain America or Quake made a cameo there. It's the same reason that, in DC Comics, kept Vertigo separate from the main DC Universe from so long.long.
*** The ''Lego Avengers'' Game had tons of MCU references. None were from the Netflix shows for that reason.
** Marvel Studios makes the movies, Marvel Television makes the TV shows. And the top people from each don't really see eye to eye on a lot of things, they may simply choose not to work together.
** It can also come down to contracts. For example does Chloe Bennett have a clause in her contract to play Quake outside of ''Agents of SHIELD'' and if so are there stipulations to it? Because if she doesn't the higher ups might not feel its worth the effort to rewrite it. On a similiar note if the movie actors have no clause about showing up on a TV show. It may be too expensive to add them to the cast, even briefly.
4th Sep '17 10:13:53 PM TorpidDrake
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*** Furthermore, when it comes to Netflix being separated from either ABC or Cinematic, it's due to reasons of tone. Netflix as a whole is aimed at an adult audience and contains several mature topics, so Marvel Stidios can't risk a little kid watching a Netflix show because either Captain America or Quake made a cameo there. It's the same reason that, in DC Comics, kept Vertigo separate from the main DC Universe from so long.

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*** Furthermore, when it comes to Netflix being separated from either ABC or Cinematic, it's due to reasons of tone. Netflix as a whole is aimed at an adult audience and contains several mature topics, so Marvel Stidios Studios can't risk a little kid watching a Netflix show because either Captain America or Quake made a cameo there. It's the same reason that, in DC Comics, kept Vertigo separate from the main DC Universe from so long.
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