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** For why they hang out together...well...[[TeensAreMonsters they're like-minded individuals]] that share a [[BullyBrutality hobby]]. Also, Shikimi is useful in that she is skilled at PR, she can have victims socially isolated and help the gang stay beneath notice. What Ajiki provides is uncertain, but a few scenes here and there imply [[HiddenDepths that there is something more going on between him and Okaya]]. Only time will tell.

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** For why they hang out together...well...[[TeensAreMonsters they're like-minded individuals]] that share a [[BullyBrutality hobby]]. Also, Shikimi is useful in that she is skilled at PR, she can have victims socially isolated and help the gang stay beneath notice. What Ajiki provides is uncertain, but a few scenes here and there imply [[HiddenDepths that there is something more going on between him and Okaya]]. Only time will tell.tell.
** Considering that Shikimi is supposed to help keep them beneath notice, how did she not consider that anyone would find out and tell on her for catfishing men? For someone who is supposed to be involved in PR, she'd have to be careful and aware of her surroundings of who is watching.
* I understand the principle doesn't care about what the bullies are doing, but in kindergarten or preschool, how did the teacher of Shikimi and Kinugawa not notice there is something wrong with them (like send them to a psychologist)? Usually the behavior they are exhibiting could be signs that there is something wrong with them (I'm not justifying their behavior, but in early childhood, based on behavior, there's sometimes signs there might be something wrong with the child, like if they enjoy harming animals).
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* One thing I can never understand is why the bullies are even together when they don't even like each other (except for Shikimi who has a crush on Okaya and is Kinugawa's childhood friend and Kinugawa being the only one who cares about his friends)? Like what's the point? Shikimi should have realized that Okaya never responds to her texts, and Kinugawa is upset that Okaya and Ajiki don't care that [[spoiler: Shikimi and Kowase are dead.]] so what's the point of them even being friends in the first place if Okaya doesn't give a damn about them and neither does Ajiki? How did they even be 'friends' to begin with? I understand that Okaya used Kowase for money and Kinugawa for beating people up, but what's the purpose even of having Shikimi (who just spends the money she extorts on herself to look good for him) and Ajiki (who just sits around on his ass eating junk)? And what does Ajiki and Shikimi even provide?

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* One thing I can never understand is why the bullies are even together when they don't even like each other (except for Shikimi who has a crush on Okaya and is Kinugawa's childhood friend and Kinugawa being the only one who cares about his friends)? Like what's the point? Shikimi should have realized that Okaya never responds to her texts, and Kinugawa is upset that Okaya and Ajiki don't care that [[spoiler: Shikimi and Kowase are dead.]] so what's the point of them even being friends in the first place if Okaya doesn't give a damn about them and neither does Ajiki? How did they even be 'friends' to begin with? I understand that Okaya used Kowase for money and Kinugawa for beating people up, but what's the purpose even of having Shikimi (who just spends the money she extorts on herself to look good for him) and Ajiki (who just sits around on his ass eating junk)? And what does Ajiki and Shikimi even provide?provide?
** For why they hang out together...well...[[TeensAreMonsters they're like-minded individuals]] that share a [[BullyBrutality hobby]]. Also, Shikimi is useful in that she is skilled at PR, she can have victims socially isolated and help the gang stay beneath notice. What Ajiki provides is uncertain, but a few scenes here and there imply [[HiddenDepths that there is something more going on between him and Okaya]]. Only time will tell.
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* One thing I can never understand is why the bullies are even together when they don't even like each other (except for Shikimi who has a crush on Okaya, Kinugawa being the only one who cares about his friends)? Like what's the point? Shikimi should have realized that Okaya never responds to her texts, and Kinugawa is upset that Okaya and Ajiki don't care that [[spoiler: Shikimi and Kowase are dead.]] so what's the point of them even being friends in the first place if Okaya doesn't give a damn about them and neither does Ajiki? How did they even be 'friends' to begin with? I understand that Okaya used Kowase for money and Kinugawa for beating people up, but what's the purpose even of having Shikimi (who just spends the money she extorts on herself to look good for him) and Ajiki (who just sits around on his ass eating junk)? And what does Ajiki and Shikimi even provide?

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* One thing I can never understand is why the bullies are even together when they don't even like each other (except for Shikimi who has a crush on Okaya, Okaya and is Kinugawa's childhood friend and Kinugawa being the only one who cares about his friends)? Like what's the point? Shikimi should have realized that Okaya never responds to her texts, and Kinugawa is upset that Okaya and Ajiki don't care that [[spoiler: Shikimi and Kowase are dead.]] so what's the point of them even being friends in the first place if Okaya doesn't give a damn about them and neither does Ajiki? How did they even be 'friends' to begin with? I understand that Okaya used Kowase for money and Kinugawa for beating people up, but what's the purpose even of having Shikimi (who just spends the money she extorts on herself to look good for him) and Ajiki (who just sits around on his ass eating junk)? And what does Ajiki and Shikimi even provide?
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* One thing I can never understand is why the bullies are even together when they don't even like each other (except for Shikimi who has a crush on Okaya, Kinugawa being the only one who cares about his friends)? Like what's the point? Shikimi should have realized that Okaya never responds to her texts, and Kinugawa is upset that Okaya and Ajiki don't care that [[spoiler: Shikimi and Kowase are dead.]] so what's the point of them even being friends in the first place if Okaya doesn't give a damn about them and neither does Ajiki? How did they even be 'friends' to begin with? I understand that Okaya used Kowase for money and Kinugawa for beating people up, but what's the purpose even of having Shikimi (who just spends the money she extorts on herself to look good for him) and Ajiki (who just sits around on his ass eating junk)? And what does Ajiki and Shikimi even provide? I

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* One thing I can never understand is why the bullies are even together when they don't even like each other (except for Shikimi who has a crush on Okaya, Kinugawa being the only one who cares about his friends)? Like what's the point? Shikimi should have realized that Okaya never responds to her texts, and Kinugawa is upset that Okaya and Ajiki don't care that [[spoiler: Shikimi and Kowase are dead.]] so what's the point of them even being friends in the first place if Okaya doesn't give a damn about them and neither does Ajiki? How did they even be 'friends' to begin with? I understand that Okaya used Kowase for money and Kinugawa for beating people up, but what's the purpose even of having Shikimi (who just spends the money she extorts on herself to look good for him) and Ajiki (who just sits around on his ass eating junk)? And what does Ajiki and Shikimi even provide? Iprovide?
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* One thing I can never understand is why the bullies are even together when they don't even like each other (except for Shikimi who has a crush on Okaya, Kinugawa being the only one who cares about his friends)? Like what's the point? Shikimi should have realized that Okaya never responds to her texts, and Kinugawa is upset that Okaya and Ajiki don't care that [[spoiler: Shikimi and Kowase are dead.]] so what's the point of them even being friends in the first place if Okaya doesn't give a damn about them and neither does Ajiki? How did they even be 'friends' to begin with?

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* One thing I can never understand is why the bullies are even together when they don't even like each other (except for Shikimi who has a crush on Okaya, Kinugawa being the only one who cares about his friends)? Like what's the point? Shikimi should have realized that Okaya never responds to her texts, and Kinugawa is upset that Okaya and Ajiki don't care that [[spoiler: Shikimi and Kowase are dead.]] so what's the point of them even being friends in the first place if Okaya doesn't give a damn about them and neither does Ajiki? How did they even be 'friends' to begin with?with? I understand that Okaya used Kowase for money and Kinugawa for beating people up, but what's the purpose even of having Shikimi (who just spends the money she extorts on herself to look good for him) and Ajiki (who just sits around on his ass eating junk)? And what does Ajiki and Shikimi even provide? I
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** TruthInTelevision / GeniusBonus. The Japanese justice system is infamously lenient on crimes commited by minors, read on the 40-day torture and murder of Junko Furuta (or don't and sleep better). That is even ''more'' of a issue when you take into account the implication that [[BigBad Okaya]]'s family is rich/influential, and Okaya [[VillainWithGoodPublicity has tailored a reputation as a kind-hearted model student]]. It makes sense for Maria to not involve Taiichiro, since he would likely try to get the police and courts involved, which would amount to nothing and defeat the whole point of what Maria's trying to achieve. Also, while Taiichiro is '''definitively''' a good man who loved his wife and son, he was also a pretty absent father and husband. Maria might think he wouldn't be of help if he knew, or might even see allowing him to think his son died of suicide because of his neglect as her own "punishment" towards her ex-husband.

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** TruthInTelevision / GeniusBonus. The Japanese justice system is infamously lenient on crimes commited by minors, read on the 40-day torture and murder of Junko Furuta (or don't and sleep better). That is even ''more'' of a issue when you take into account the implication that [[BigBad Okaya]]'s family is rich/influential, and Okaya [[VillainWithGoodPublicity has tailored a reputation as a kind-hearted model student]]. It makes sense for Maria to not involve Taiichiro, since he would likely try to get the police and courts involved, which would amount to nothing and defeat the whole point of what Maria's trying to achieve. Also, while Taiichiro is '''definitively''' a good man who loved his wife and son, he was also a pretty absent father and husband. Maria might think he wouldn't be of help if he knew, or might even see allowing him to think his son died of suicide because of his neglect as her own "punishment" towards her ex-husband.ex-husband.
* One thing I can never understand is why the bullies are even together when they don't even like each other (except for Shikimi who has a crush on Okaya, Kinugawa being the only one who cares about his friends)? Like what's the point? Shikimi should have realized that Okaya never responds to her texts, and Kinugawa is upset that Okaya and Ajiki don't care that [[spoiler: Shikimi and Kowase are dead.]] so what's the point of them even being friends in the first place if Okaya doesn't give a damn about them and neither does Ajiki? How did they even be 'friends' to begin with?
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** TruthInTelevision / GeniusBonus. The Japanese justice system is infamously lenient on crimes commited by minors, read on the 40-day torture and murder of Junko Furuta (or don't and sleep better). That is even ''more'' of a issue when you take into account the implication that [[BigBad Okaya]]'s family is rich/influential, and Okaya [[VillainWithGoodPublicity has tailored a reputation was a kind-hearted model student]]. It makes sense for Maria to not involve Taiichiro, since he would likely try to get the police and courts involved, which would amount to nothing and defeat the whole point of what Maria's trying to achieve. Also, while Taiichiro is '''definitively''' a good man who loved his wife and son, he was also pretty neglectful father and husband. Maria might think he wouldn't be of help if he knew, or might even see allowing him to think his son died of suicide because of his neglect as her own "punishment" towards her ex-husband.

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** TruthInTelevision / GeniusBonus. The Japanese justice system is infamously lenient on crimes commited by minors, read on the 40-day torture and murder of Junko Furuta (or don't and sleep better). That is even ''more'' of a issue when you take into account the implication that [[BigBad Okaya]]'s family is rich/influential, and Okaya [[VillainWithGoodPublicity has tailored a reputation was as a kind-hearted model student]]. It makes sense for Maria to not involve Taiichiro, since he would likely try to get the police and courts involved, which would amount to nothing and defeat the whole point of what Maria's trying to achieve. Also, while Taiichiro is '''definitively''' a good man who loved his wife and son, he was also a pretty neglectful absent father and husband. Maria might think he wouldn't be of help if he knew, or might even see allowing him to think his son died of suicide because of his neglect as her own "punishment" towards her ex-husband.
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* I'm curious to why Maria doesn't tell Taiichiro about their son's bullying and the fact the suicide note online were fake? Right now, it's all a mystery, but from what I've seen she wanted to punish them herself. Was it because she didn't want to jeopardize Taiichiro's job as an inspector, or that he would have tried to stop her, or that she blames him for not noticing his son's pain, or a mix of them? She clearly didn't plan that her last name was going to be noticed by him, and her face when she saw him in the nightclub was of surprise. At the very least, I think she doesn't want to hurt him, but if he's an obstacle, she's going to have done something about her ex-husband.

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* I'm curious to why Maria doesn't tell Taiichiro about their son's bullying and the fact the suicide note online were fake? Right now, it's all a mystery, but from what I've seen she wanted to punish them herself. Was it because she didn't want to jeopardize Taiichiro's job as an inspector, or that he would have tried to stop her, or that she blames him for not noticing his son's pain, or a mix of them? She clearly didn't plan that her last name was going to be noticed by him, and her face when she saw him in the nightclub was of surprise. At the very least, I think she doesn't want to hurt him, but if he's an obstacle, she's going to have done something about her ex-husband.
** TruthInTelevision / GeniusBonus. The Japanese justice system is infamously lenient on crimes commited by minors, read on the 40-day torture and murder of Junko Furuta (or don't and sleep better). That is even ''more'' of a issue when you take into account the implication that [[BigBad Okaya]]'s family is rich/influential, and Okaya [[VillainWithGoodPublicity has tailored a reputation was a kind-hearted model student]]. It makes sense for Maria to not involve Taiichiro, since he would likely try to get the police and courts involved, which would amount to nothing and defeat the whole point of what Maria's trying to achieve. Also, while Taiichiro is '''definitively''' a good man who loved his wife and son, he was also pretty neglectful father and husband. Maria might think he wouldn't be of help if he knew, or might even see allowing him to think his son died of suicide because of his neglect as her own "punishment" towards her
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** One of their comrades vanishing without a trace is a concidence. Two of them doing it in relatively short time is a pattern. Once you assume thay foul play is involved it becomes unlikely that either are still alive.

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** One of their comrades vanishing without a trace is a concidence. Two of them doing it in relatively short time is a pattern. Once you assume thay foul play is involved involved, it becomes unlikely that either are still alive.alive.
* I'm curious to why Maria doesn't tell Taiichiro about their son's bullying and the fact the suicide note online were fake? Right now, it's all a mystery, but from what I've seen she wanted to punish them herself. Was it because she didn't want to jeopardize Taiichiro's job as an inspector, or that he would have tried to stop her, or that she blames him for not noticing his son's pain, or a mix of them? She clearly didn't plan that her last name was going to be noticed by him, and her face when she saw him in the nightclub was of surprise. At the very least, I think she doesn't want to hurt him, but if he's an obstacle, she's going to have done something about her ex-husband.

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* Another question I have is how does the remaining bullies know that Kowase and Shikimi are dead when these two are considered missing under the police investigation?

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** If you're making the assumption that two of your group are gone and that it's related, then you need to think of a motive as to why, which leads to it being revenge for someone they bullied. That someone was able to take out two of them without leaving any signs would suggest a level of competence and means beyond what one of their victims could muster, so then it becomes who would hate them enough to want them dead, which leaves the one person they killed. It requires several assumptions but isn't much of a logical leap.
* Another question I have is how does the remaining bullies know that Kowase and Shikimi are dead when these two are considered missing under the police investigation?investigation?
** One of their comrades vanishing without a trace is a concidence. Two of them doing it in relatively short time is a pattern. Once you assume thay foul play is involved it becomes unlikely that either are still alive.

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* Okay, so, first of all, I still don't get how Okaya suspects the culprit who killed Kowase and Shikimi is one of his dead victim's parents. Sure he is right, but how can he believe it may be the parents when he and his gang framed Kiritaka's death as a suicide case because he was abused by his parents. Logically, said parents would blame themselves instead of the possibility that he died for other reasons. How does he know that the parent may be aware of their son's horrific bullying? Besides, like he said to Kinugawa, they have a lot of enemies. One plausible reason why Okaya suspects Kiritaka's parents may be because Kiritaka is the only known victim to be killed because of them. However, any enemy can be willing to kill the gang, even if they did not have someone they love (indirectly) murdered in their hands, which is why his conclusion with the knowledge he has now doesn't make sense to me.

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* Okay, so, first of all, I still don't get how Okaya suspects the culprit who killed Kowase and Shikimi is one of his dead victim's parents. Sure he is right, but how can he believe it may be the parents when he and his gang framed Kiritaka's death as a suicide case because he was abused by due to his parents. parents' "abuse"? Logically, said parents would blame themselves instead of the possibility that he died for other reasons. How does he know that the parent may be aware of their son's horrific bullying? Besides, like he said to Kinugawa, they have a lot of enemies. One plausible reason why Okaya suspects Kiritaka's parents may be because Kiritaka is the only known victim to be killed because of them. However, any enemy can be willing to kill the gang, even if they did not have someone they love (indirectly) murdered in their hands, hands. The killer can also be another of their victims who has enough of a valid reason to want them dying, which is why his conclusion with the knowledge he has now doesn't make sense to me.

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* Okay, so, first of all, I still don't get how Okaya suspects the culprit who killed Kowase and Shikimi is one of his dead victim's parents. Sure he is right, but how can he believe it may be the parents when he and his gang framed Kiritaka's death as a suicide case because he was abused by his parents. Logically, said parents would blame themselves instead of the possibility that he died for other reasons. How does he know that the parent may be aware of their son's horrific bullying? Besides, like he said to Kinugawa, they have a lot of enemies. One plausible reason why Okaya suspects Kiritaka's parents may be because Kiritaka is the only known victim to be killed because of them. However, any enemy can be willing to kill the gang, even if they did not have someone they love (indirectly) murdered in their hands, which is why his conclusion with the knowledge he has now doesn't make sense to me.
* Another question I have is how does the remaining bullies know that Kowase and Shikimi are dead when these two are considered missing under the police investigation?

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