History Headscratchers / LoveHina

18th Sep '15 2:46:33 PM Guy01
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* So, I don't know if this is just because SocialServicesDoNotExist, but most of the characters in the house are actually underage. (While age of majority is 20 in Japan, you can argue that Keitaro and Kitsune are alright because they're 19) How does this ''not'' raise any eyebrows? Shouldn't Keitaro and Kitsune be considered the legal guardians of the 9-15 year old characters in the dorm?

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* So, I don't know if this is just because SocialServicesDoNotExist, but most of the characters in the house are actually underage. (While age of majority is 20 in Japan, you can argue that Keitaro and Kitsune are alright because they're 19) How does this ''not'' raise any eyebrows? Shouldn't Keitaro and Kitsune be considered the legal guardians of the 9-15 year old characters in the dorm?dorm?
* So, has anybody else noticed the FridgeHorror of Keitaro being trapped in an abusive relationship at the end? Happy Ending for Naru maybe, but Keitaro's life is going to be miserable.
17th Apr '15 9:04:47 PM SpaghettiBoy
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* So if Sarah isn't Seta's actual daughter, why is she with him? He's clearly a terrible parent- Sarah doesn't seem to go to school, she's an incredibly BrattyHalfPint, he just ditches her at Hinata House whenever he wants to after he meets Keitaro...

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* So if Sarah isn't Seta's actual daughter, why is she with him? He's clearly a terrible parent- Sarah doesn't seem to go to school, she's an incredibly BrattyHalfPint, he just ditches her at Hinata House whenever he wants to after he meets Keitaro...Keitaro...
* So, I don't know if this is just because SocialServicesDoNotExist, but most of the characters in the house are actually underage. (While age of majority is 20 in Japan, you can argue that Keitaro and Kitsune are alright because they're 19) How does this ''not'' raise any eyebrows? Shouldn't Keitaro and Kitsune be considered the legal guardians of the 9-15 year old characters in the dorm?
28th Mar '14 3:17:41 PM StormRequiem
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** I also heard this once but have never seen any indication in the anime or manga, so I think this may be rumor/fan interpretation (to explain why they're so ridiculously similar in certain ways). Another, lesser point of confusion is whether Mutsumi has anemia, but I think that one's an issue of the anime saying something the manga didn't (...which it kind of did a lot).

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** I also heard this once but have never seen any indication in the anime or manga, so I think this may be rumor/fan interpretation (to explain why they're so ridiculously similar in certain ways). Another, lesser point of confusion is whether Mutsumi has anemia, but I think that one's an issue of the anime saying something the manga didn't (...which it kind of did a lot).lot).
* So if Sarah isn't Seta's actual daughter, why is she with him? He's clearly a terrible parent- Sarah doesn't seem to go to school, she's an incredibly BrattyHalfPint, he just ditches her at Hinata House whenever he wants to after he meets Keitaro...
14th Feb '14 2:58:43 PM Mitsukara
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*** Keitarou meanwhile never forgot about the promise with Naru, only who he made it with, while Mutsumi remembered all the details but didn't explain it too well- especially since Naru and Keitarou asked her not to at the end of volume 8 when she started to. (also, back in volume 3 and 6, it probably took a while for her to realize that they were the same two people she'd known in the past.) She also seemed to remember/relive it a little more vividly after some head trauma in volume 10, where she basically does explain to Naru (albeit partially through amnesiac re-enactment)...
*** ...and then, in volume 14, Naru and Keitarou weren't too sure about Mutsumi's version in volume 10 being correct under the circumstances, so basically at that point they're worried that they don't really know what happened and don't want it to get in the way of the fact that they love each other here and now, but then Keitarou's grandma shows up and hastily confirms Promise #1 without explaining this whole thing in depth again. So, did you catch all that? (also, volume 10 left me really shipping for a Keitarou/Naru/Mutsumi threesome/open marriage/polyamory thing, but now I'm getting semi-off topic...)

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*** Keitarou meanwhile never forgot about the promise with Naru, only who he made it with, while Mutsumi remembered all the details but didn't explain it too well- especially since Naru and Keitarou asked her not to at the end of volume 8 when she started to. (also, back in volume 3 and 6, it probably took a while for her to realize that they were the same two people she'd known in the past.) She also seemed to remember/relive it a little more vividly after some head trauma in volume 10, where she basically does explain to Naru (albeit partially through amnesiac re-enactment)... \n (also, volume 10 left this troper really shipping for a Keitarou/Naru/Mutsumi threesome/open marriage/polyamory thing, but that's getting semi-off topic...)
*** ...and then, in volume 14, Naru and Keitarou weren't too sure about Mutsumi's version in volume 10 being correct under the circumstances, so basically at that point they're worried that they don't really know what happened and don't want it to get in the way of the fact that they love each other here and now, but then Keitarou's grandma shows up and hastily confirms Promise #1 without explaining this whole thing in depth again. So, did you catch all that? (also, volume 10 left me really shipping for a Keitarou/Naru/Mutsumi threesome/open marriage/polyamory thing, but now I'm getting semi-off topic...)that?
14th Feb '14 2:55:51 PM Mitsukara
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*** Oh, and then there's Keitarou's side promise (#4?) with Kanako to add to the confusion, but that's mostly isolated as it didn't have anything to do with Tokyo University and was just about running Hinata House (as an inn) together.

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*** Oh, and then there's Keitarou's side promise (#4?) with Kanako to add to the confusion, but that's mostly isolated as it didn't have anything to do with Tokyo University and was just about running Hinata House (as an inn) together. And in the anime version, the whole thing is never really resolved (Keitarou and Naru just sorta decide not to worry about it anymore...) and there's a vague hint that it (their version of 'promise #1') might've been with Moe-chan, the sapient doll from the basement (one of the anime-only characters), who smiles at them becoming a couple and then vanishes.
14th Feb '14 2:52:36 PM Mitsukara
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** This whole subject could use a good explanatory chart/article with data points from volumes 7, 10, and a few other places. My understanding, though, was that Mutsumi met Keitarou, they liked each other, then they met Naru who's parents had gone to Tokyo university in their youth (and Naru's mother had since died), and Mutsumi heard about the whole thing. Mutsumi loved both of them- quite a lot, it would seem, from what happens in the Okinawa chapters in volume 10- and decides to try to get the two of them together and step aside herself (the whole thing with playing janken where Naru always did scissors for some reason), and so Keitarou promised to go with Naru. Problem is that Naru was very young and couldn't remember it, so a few years later when Mutsumi met Naru again, she promised her again to keep her on track (which Mutsumi talks about in volume 7)... and Naru eventually forgot the details of that, too, and came away with the impression that it was very important to go to Tokyo University but not so much why (and made a much more minor promise to Seta as her tutor that it was what she wanted to do, which is the promise she was talking about in the early volumes). Keitarou meanwhile never forgot about the promise with Naru, only who he made it with, while Mutsumi remembered all the details but didn't explain it too well- especially since Naru and Keitarou asked her not to at the end of volume 8 when she started to. She also seemed to remember/relive it a little more vividly after some head trauma in volume 10, where she basically does explain to Naru (albeit partially through amnesiac re-enactment). Naru and Keitarou weren't too sure about Mutsumi's version in volume 10 being correct under the circumstances, so basically in volume 14 they're worried that they don't really know what happened and don't want it to get in the way of the fact that they love each other here and now, but then Keitarou's grandma shows up and hastily confirms it without explaining this whole thing again. So, did you catch all that? (also, volume 10 left me really shipping for a Keitarou/Naru/Mutsumi threesome/open marriage/polyamory thing, but now I'm getting semi-off topic...)
*** Oh, and then there's Keitarou's side promise with Kanako to add to the confusion, but that's mostly isolated as it didn't have anything to do with Tokyo University and was just about running Hinata House (as an inn) together.

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** This whole subject could use a good explanatory chart/article with data points from volumes 7, 10, and a few other places. My understanding, though, was that that:
*** Promise #1: First
Mutsumi (age 6) met Keitarou, Keitarou (age 5), they liked each other, then they met Naru who's (age 2 and a half) whose parents had gone to Tokyo university in their youth (and Naru's mother had since died), and Mutsumi heard about the whole thing. that situation. Mutsumi loved both of them- quite a lot, it would seem, from what happens in the Okinawa chapters in volume 10- and decides to try to get the two of them together and step aside herself (the whole thing with playing janken where Naru always did scissors for some reason), and so Keitarou promised to go with Naru. Problem Naru (when he was 5 and she was 2 and a half).
*** Promise #2: The problem
is that Naru was very young and couldn't remember it, so a few years later when Mutsumi met Naru again, she promised made a promise with her again to keep her Naru on track (which Mutsumi talks about in volume 7)... 7)...
*** Promise #3: ...
and then Naru eventually forgot the details of that, too, and came away with the impression that it was very important to go to Tokyo University but not so much why (and made a much more minor promise to Seta as her tutor that it was what she wanted to do, which is the promise she was talking about in the early volumes). volumes).
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Keitarou meanwhile never forgot about the promise with Naru, only who he made it with, while Mutsumi remembered all the details but didn't explain it too well- especially since Naru and Keitarou asked her not to at the end of volume 8 when she started to. (also, back in volume 3 and 6, it probably took a while for her to realize that they were the same two people she'd known in the past.) She also seemed to remember/relive it a little more vividly after some head trauma in volume 10, where she basically does explain to Naru (albeit partially through amnesiac re-enactment). re-enactment)...
*** ...and then, in volume 14,
Naru and Keitarou weren't too sure about Mutsumi's version in volume 10 being correct under the circumstances, so basically in volume 14 at that point they're worried that they don't really know what happened and don't want it to get in the way of the fact that they love each other here and now, but then Keitarou's grandma shows up and hastily confirms it Promise #1 without explaining this whole thing in depth again. So, did you catch all that? (also, volume 10 left me really shipping for a Keitarou/Naru/Mutsumi threesome/open marriage/polyamory thing, but now I'm getting semi-off topic...)
*** Oh, and then there's Keitarou's side promise (#4?) with Kanako to add to the confusion, but that's mostly isolated as it didn't have anything to do with Tokyo University and was just about running Hinata House (as an inn) together.
14th Feb '14 7:43:25 AM Mitsukara
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*** Oh, and then there's Keitarou's side promise with Kanako to add to the confusion, but that's mostly isolated as it didn't have anything to do with Tokyo University and was just about running Hinata House (as an inn) together.
14th Feb '14 7:39:37 AM Mitsukara
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** This whole subject could use a good explanatory chart/article with data points from volumes 7, 10, and a few other places. My understanding, though, was that Mutsumi met Keitarou, they liked each other, then they met Naru who's parents had gone to Tokyo university in their youth (and Naru's mother had since died), and Mutsumi heard about the whole thing. Mutsumi loved both of them- quite a lot, it would seem, from what happens in the Okinawa chapters in volume 10- and decides to try to get the two of them together and step aside herself (the whole thing with playing janken where Naru always did scissors for some reason), and so Keitarou promised to go with Naru. Problem is that Naru was very young and couldn't remember it, so a few years later when Mutsumi met Naru again, she promised her again to keep her on track (which Mutsumi talks about in volume 7)... and Naru eventually forgot the details of that, too, and came away with the impression that it was very important to go to Tokyo University but not so much why (and made a much more minor promise to Seta as her tutor that it was what she wanted to do, which is the promise she was talking about in the early volumes). Keitarou meanwhile never forgot about the promise with Naru, only who he made it with, while Mutsumi remembered all the details but didn't explain it too well- especially since Naru and Keitarou asked her not to at the end of volume 8 when she started to. She also seemed to remember/relive it a little more vividly after some head trauma in volume 10, where she basically does explain to Naru (albeit partially through amnesiac re-enactment). Naru and Keitarou weren't too sure about Mutsumi's version in volume 10 being correct under the circumstances, so basically in volume 14 they're worried that they don't really know what happened and don't want it to get in the way of the fact that they love each other here and now, but then Keitarou's grandma shows up and hastily confirms it without explaining this whole thing again. So, did you catch all that? (also, volume 10 left me really shipping for a Keitarou/Naru/Mutsumi threesome/open marriage/polyamory thing, but now I'm getting semi-off topic...)



*** In volume 14, Keitarou and Naru explicitly open up about how much they enjoy their routine of him catching her naked and her hitting him. It almost gives the impression it stopped being an accident at some point later on, too... also, hilariously, eviction and selling off the hinata house are mentioned in Keitarou's character concept sketch (most easily found at the end of volume 1 in the tokyopop version), along with him owning a motorcycle. But Love Hina got some pretty heavy re-writes in the early creative process it seems, since Naru used to be an amnesiac named Midori and Haruka used to be a single mom.



* Are Keitaro and Mutsumi cousins? I heard somewhere that they were.

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** I thought most of this was indicated by volume 9 (or possibly 13) of the manga during Tsuruko's visits in those? Also, if Setsuna Sakurazaki is any further indication, romantic repression seems to be one of the key elements of the Shinmei Ryu secret arts techniques, or at least a very common side-effect...
* Are Keitaro and Mutsumi cousins? I heard somewhere that they were.were.
** I also heard this once but have never seen any indication in the anime or manga, so I think this may be rumor/fan interpretation (to explain why they're so ridiculously similar in certain ways). Another, lesser point of confusion is whether Mutsumi has anemia, but I think that one's an issue of the anime saying something the manga didn't (...which it kind of did a lot).
8th Feb '14 2:30:25 PM WHT1
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** Related to this, one thing that bugged me was that at the end of volume 8, Keitaro and Naru stop Mutsumi from revealing the truth about the promise because they wanted to leave the past in the past and focus on the present from then on. So why, then, did Naru spend most of the last volume freaking out and trying to break up with Keitaro... just because she was afraid she might ''not'' turn out to have been his promise girl?
28th Oct '13 5:16:22 PM LastationLover5000
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* What's the name of the [[AllThereInTheManual guidebook]] which reveals that Motoko is [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes scared of turtles]] and DoesNotLikeMen because she caught Tsuruko and her husband "[[PrimalScene in the act?]]"

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* What's the name of the [[AllThereInTheManual guidebook]] which reveals that Motoko is [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes scared of turtles]] and DoesNotLikeMen because she caught Tsuruko and her husband "[[PrimalScene in the act?]]"act?]]"
* Are Keitaro and Mutsumi cousins? I heard somewhere that they were.
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