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** Superman may or may not need to breathe (it varies by continuity), his body can be sustained by the yellow sun radiation his cells have been soaking up all his life. Wonder Woman. . . well, she's a demigod, so may have that as part of her powers. What's really headscratching is how Flash and Batman can survive in Atlantis with only a little breath mask, when the water pressure should crush them pulp.


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** Orm needs to make sure people know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he's responsible, and marching his army out of a tidal wave he created accomplishes that. And call up world leaders. . . how, exactly? Atlantis doesn't exactly have cell towers. And even the biggest tidal waves can only reach so far inland. . . eventually, if Orm really wants to conquer the surface, he'll have to put Atlantean boots on dry ground. Even if he has no interest in acquiring and holding surface territory and just wants to kill all humans, he'll need his soldiers on the ground to ensure that goal is actually achieved. And Orm is a bit of a BloodKnight, so leading his army personally in battle would be a more appealing tactic than destroying them from afar. Finally, one of his main motives is to preserve the ocean from the predations of the surface, and mass tidal waves would be as damaging to the ocean's ecology as they would be to the surface.
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** So to avoid the city being hit by a big wave you are making it so it gets hit by a lot of super heated, radioactive steam, good thinking. There's a reason you never see a nuke used against a tsunami in the real world, you cant't "glass" water, you boil it.
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*** Trying to minimize casualties when you are hoping that those soldiers side with you at the end of the day also makes sense. People are less liable to listen if the ones making the revelation were slaughtering them a moment ago. Mera certainly has the means to use less lethal attacks with that powers of hers. There's a difference between naively hoping zero casualties in an armed conflict, and turning every attack into a butchery because you are unwilling to make your water constructs a little less sharp (Not the OP).


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*** Probably both of them were royalty. Historically, it was not uncommon for heirs to the throne to marry other members of the royal family, and many arranged royal marriages were between cousins or uncles and nieces. It was also not uncommon for bastards to have a strong claim to the throne if it could be proved that they were of royal blood.
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* how was it that wonder woman and superman could breath underwater?
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** Their marriage was arranged, it wouldn't be the first time an old man marries a young woman by external agreements.
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*** Ignoring the fact that tidal waves are caused by earthquakes so every government with halfway decent seismology equipment would be able to confirm that this man wasn't an opportunist we're not given a single reason to believe that this was even particularly difficult for him. All he needs to do is pick up the phone and say something along the lines of "there will be a tiday wave at such and such location and such and such time." Strictly speaking he doesn't even have to kill anybody. If five tidal waves hit uninhabited parts of say Antarctica over the course of a day and then one approaches, then stops just yards away from New York people are going to listen. And if they don't he can start wiping out coastal cities at will. It's not like that Justice League has any realistic hope of victory if Orm stays in the water or ways of fighting Tidal Waves.

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** If he just showed up afterwards and started ranting about how he was personally responsible for a tidal wave, people wouldn't really have any reason to believe he's anything more than a deranged opportunist.



*** Superman and WW are not human and presumably have Justified SuperNotDrowningSkills. And given that Col. Trevor doesn't hesitate to ask Cyborg to search something at the bottom of the ocean, presumably he already had the necessary upgrades. He may have even had his lung replaced in order to be able to survive underwater.



** Batman says they can't evacuate the cities. He doesn't say they can't warn anyone.



** Only those of royal blood can use the trident. Chances are, the ''king'' is the one who got the position through marriage since the queen can use the trident just fine

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** Only those of royal blood can use the trident. Chances are, the ''king'' is the one who got the position through marriage since the queen can use the trident just finefine.



* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? Orm and his guards have super human strength (and possibly quick reflexes). Manta is a regular human.

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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond Bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? Orm and his guards have super human strength (and possibly quick reflexes). Manta is a regular human.



* So what defines royalty as far as the Trident is concerned. As noted above the Trident accepting Arthur is sketchy. Diana is explicitly royalty and despite her claims to the contrary a literal deity. Superman should probably qualify as royalty as well on account of being the last son of Krypton. So no matter how far removed from the throne Kal-El may actually be there is nobody extant that has a more legit claim.

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* So what defines royalty as far as the Trident is concerned. concerned? As noted above the Trident accepting Arthur is sketchy. Diana is explicitly royalty and despite her claims to the contrary a literal deity. Superman should probably qualify as royalty as well on account of being the last son of Krypton. So no matter how far removed from the throne Kal-El may actually be there is nobody extant that has a more legit claim.



* Atlanna and Arthur...let's assume atlantean pregancy is the same as humans, how the heck did the queen hide her baby bump from her husband? Was she hanging with Arthur's dad during her pregnancy?

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* Atlanna and Arthur...let's assume atlantean pregancy Atlantean pregnancy is the same as humans, how the heck did the queen hide her baby bump from her husband? Was she hanging with Arthur's dad during her pregnancy?pregnancy?
** She wasn't married yet when she was with Arthur's dad, just promised to be married. As far as anyone knew, Atlanna was taking an extended bachelorette party on the surface (or nobody knew where she went).
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** First of all, we don't know if Krypton has royalty. Much more importantly, presumably the Trident only cares about ''Atlantean'' royalty.

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** First of all, we don't know if Krypton has royalty. Much more importantly, presumably the Trident only cares about ''Atlantean'' royalty.royalty.
* Atlanna and Arthur...let's assume atlantean pregancy is the same as humans, how the heck did the queen hide her baby bump from her husband? Was she hanging with Arthur's dad during her pregnancy?
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*** That is exactly correct. The trident can only be used by those of Atlantean royal blood and seeing how Arthur is able to use the trident and his mother is where his Atlantean ancestry comes from it basically confirms the king married into the throne.
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* So what defines royalty as far as the Trident is concerned. As noted above the Trident accepting Arthur is sketchy. Diana is explicitly royalty and despite her claims to the contrary a literal deity. Superman should probably qualify as royalty as well on account of being the last son of Krypton. So no matter how far removed from the throne Kal-El may actually be there is nobody extant that has a more legit claim.

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* So what defines royalty as far as the Trident is concerned. As noted above the Trident accepting Arthur is sketchy. Diana is explicitly royalty and despite her claims to the contrary a literal deity. Superman should probably qualify as royalty as well on account of being the last son of Krypton. So no matter how far removed from the throne Kal-El may actually be there is nobody extant that has a more legit claim.claim.
** First of all, we don't know if Krypton has royalty. Much more importantly, presumably the Trident only cares about ''Atlantean'' royalty.

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** Same way Wonder Woman and Superman were apparently breathing just fine. Even Cyborg despite not having lungs presumably respirates. His heart and brain are still organic and need oxygen and while it's not impossible giving him the ability to breathe underwater is an odd attachment to just throw on while you're in there.



* Granted, Atlanteans' law of succession may be different from most historical monarchies, but it still looks wierd that Arthur has any right to the throne, considering that not only he is out-of-wedlock but his mom is only a queen by marriage. And while we are at it, wasn't the king at all embarrassed that his bride-to-be wasn't, you know, virgin?

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* Granted, Atlanteans' law of succession may be different from most historical monarchies, but it still looks wierd weird that Arthur has any right to the throne, considering that not only he is out-of-wedlock but his mom is only a queen by marriage. And while we are at it, wasn't the king at all embarrassed that his bride-to-be wasn't, you know, virgin?


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** Agreed but one of the problems with real armor is they are generally designed to be good against something specific. A sledgehammer is just blunt force trauma and until informed otherwise the ice projectiles are magical in nature.


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** The same way Oceanmaster killed Atlanna.
* So what defines royalty as far as the Trident is concerned. As noted above the Trident accepting Arthur is sketchy. Diana is explicitly royalty and despite her claims to the contrary a literal deity. Superman should probably qualify as royalty as well on account of being the last son of Krypton. So no matter how far removed from the throne Kal-El may actually be there is nobody extant that has a more legit claim.
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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? Orm and his guards have super human strength (and probably quick reflexes). Manta is a regular human.

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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? Orm and his guards have super human strength (and probably possibly quick reflexes). Manta is a regular human.
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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm and his guards have super human strength (and probably quick reflexes).

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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm and his guards have super human strength (and probably quick reflexes). Manta is a regular human.
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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm has super human strength (and probably quick reflexes).

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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm has and his guards have super human strength (and probably quick reflexes).
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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm have super human strength (and probably quick reflexes).

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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm have has super human strength (and probably quick reflexes).
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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm have super human strength (and possibly have quick reflexes).

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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm have super human strength (and possibly have probably quick reflexes).
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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm have super human strength(and possibly have quick reflexes).

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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human, and Orm have super human strength(and strength (and possibly have quick reflexes).
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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human.

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* Black Manta explains his true plan to Aquaman like a bond villain. Let's assume everything goes according to Manta's plan, how would he be able to [[spoiler: kill Oceanmaster and rob him of his riches]]? He's a regular human.human, and Orm have super human strength(and possibly have quick reflexes).

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