History Headscratchers / JohnLennon

3rd Jan '18 6:23:50 PM DoctorNemesis
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** It is also worth simply noting that "Imagine" is a three-minute pop song, not a detailed political manifesto. Lennon's simply asking his audience to, as the title suggests, imagine a world with or without the things he raises, but what such a world would look like would vary according to the listener's imagination. Lennon presumably had his own ideas, but he's under no obligation to provide the listener with a carefully researched and costed step-by-step plan for achieving it; all he's saying is that if you want such a world, then imagining what it looks like is the first step towards eventually actualising it.
30th Jul '17 1:39:15 PM CaptEquinox
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* On a different note for the same song Music/DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.

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* On a different note for the same song Music/DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.this.
* And many people have pointed out that "imagine no possessions" conflicts with Lennon and Ono's massive wealth. When Music/NeilYoung [[http://thrasherswheat.org/jammin/lennon.htm sang "Imagine" for the Firemen's Fund tv special]] after the September 11, 2001 attacks, he changed "I wonder if you can" to "I wonder if ''I'' can", highlighting the hypocrisy of an artist worth over $65M singing such a line.
30th Jun '17 5:10:40 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** Well, you'd have to ask the OP that; I was just trying to clarify, I wasn't saying I agreed with them.

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*** Well, you'd have to ask the OP that; I was just trying to clarify, I wasn't saying I agreed with them.
30th Jun '17 5:09:44 AM DoctorNemesis
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* On a different note for the same song Music/DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.

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\n*** Well, you'd have to ask the OP that; I was just trying to clarify, I wasn't saying I agreed with them.

* On a different note for the same song Music/DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.
19th Dec '15 6:55:23 AM DoctorNemesis
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**** "everything is meaningless" OP sounds like one of those victims of religious propaganda who thinks that death is what gives meaning to life, what a pitiful joke!

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**** "everything is meaningless" OP sounds like one of those victims of religious propaganda who thinks that death is what gives meaning to life, what a pitiful joke!
19th Nov '15 2:43:00 PM calamondin
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* On a different note for the same song Music/DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.

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**** "everything is meaningless" OP sounds like one of those victims of religious propaganda who thinks that death is what gives meaning to life, what a pitiful joke!

* On a different note for the same song Music/DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.
17th Jan '15 9:01:11 AM Patachou
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* JohnLennon's ''Imagine''. Imagine everything is meaningless, and people only live for the moment. Plus, nothing to kill or die for? That means there's no freedom and no love. And this is supposed to be a HopeForABetterWorld song.

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* JohnLennon's ''Imagine''.Music/JohnLennon's ''Imagine'' from ''Music/{{Imagine}}''. Imagine everything is meaningless, and people only live for the moment. Plus, nothing to kill or die for? That means there's no freedom and no love. And this is supposed to be a HopeForABetterWorld song.



* On a different note for the same song DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.

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* On a different note for the same song DavidBowie Music/DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.
10th May '14 6:30:11 AM ading
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* On a different note for the same song DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.

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*** But the whole point of dying for something is that you eliminate a threat to it. If there are no threats to love or freedom, how can you kill or die for them? You already have them, and they're not going to be taken away.
* On a different note for the same song DavidBowie [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftjxN_KJoM did a cover]] why cant I buy this.
26th Apr '13 2:31:35 AM superawesomephoenix
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** I think the OP was pointing out that most good things, such as freedom and love, are things people see as worth killing or dying for, not that they can only exist if you kill or die for them. A lot of romance stories revolve around the idea that love is worth dying for, after all.
17th Feb '13 7:19:25 PM LorienTheYounger
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** It seems significant that the original person who posted this apparently thinks that freedom and love can't possibly exist without people killing each other or dying for them. When the song itself implores the listener to imagine a world where there could be love and freedom without death and destruction. Perhaps such a concept is beyond the boundaries of their imagination.
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