History Headscratchers / JakAndDaxter

7th Apr '18 8:40:28 PM Dark_Phoenix14
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**One possible way this could have gone down was that Barron Praxis took power 20 or so years ago as you stated and while Damas was in Spargus, he had Jak; but before long, he was taken by Count Veger. It was never stated when Jak was taken by Veger, just that he was taken. Jak must have been a baby at the time because he doesn't remember Damas at all.
17th Mar '18 6:45:39 AM Tractical_Chunder
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*** It's fairly strongly implied that Jak ''was'' supposed to be the original Mar, at least at some point in the narrative. The Ottsel surfer says "you have way more challenges in the future," and the Dummy responds "or was it the past?" And Ashelin reacts to Jak being ''the'' Mar after Jak reveals his name to the Leader. Along with all the vague implications about it in Jak II I think it's safe to say Jak was set up to be the founder of Haven city at some point.
21st Jan '18 4:10:44 PM rt2012
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* Compared to Ratchet and Clank, Jak and daxter has very little related to backstory and lore. Very little is explained about the world around them, backstories about Haven City and the KG, and while Ratchet and Clank gets manga, comics, and side games that explain the histories of certain planets, very little is given to the Jak series which is disappointing, because there's alot that can be elaborated on in Jak 2 and 3. Will Naughty Dog ever go back and create an Expanded Universe? I'd love to see more about the KG, life in Haven City, and stories of the wasteland. In fact, you can make entire stories about these sort of things.

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* Compared to Ratchet and Clank, Jak and daxter has very little related to backstory and lore. Very little is explained about the world around them, backstories about Haven City and the KG, and while Ratchet and Clank gets manga, comics, and side games that explain the histories of certain planets, very little is given to the Jak series which is disappointing, because there's alot that can be elaborated on in Jak 2 and 3. Will Naughty Dog ever go back and create an Expanded Universe? I'd love to see more about the KG, life in Haven City, and stories of the wasteland. In fact, you can make entire stories about these sort of things.things.
* If Haven City (specifically Dead Town) was built over what used to be Sandover Village, why doesn't the surrounding geography look the same? The jagged mountain range around Haven City are nowhere in the first game. For that matter, the Mountain Temple should've been in the first game since it was a Precursor building and therefore built long ago.
21st Jan '18 3:17:02 PM Tuaam
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* Compared to Ratchet and Clank, Jak and daxter has very little related to backstory and lore. Very little is explained about the world around them, backstories about Haven City and the KG, and while Ratchet and Clank gets manga, comics, and side games that explain the histories of certain planets, very little is given to the Jak series which is disappointing, because there's alot that can be elaborated on in Jak 2 and 3. Will Naughty Dog ever go back and create an Expanded Universe?

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* Compared to Ratchet and Clank, Jak and daxter has very little related to backstory and lore. Very little is explained about the world around them, backstories about Haven City and the KG, and while Ratchet and Clank gets manga, comics, and side games that explain the histories of certain planets, very little is given to the Jak series which is disappointing, because there's alot that can be elaborated on in Jak 2 and 3. Will Naughty Dog ever go back and create an Expanded Universe?Universe? I'd love to see more about the KG, life in Haven City, and stories of the wasteland. In fact, you can make entire stories about these sort of things.
21st Jan '18 3:15:47 PM Tuaam
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* How did Kor ever manage to get outside the Hip Hog?

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* How did Kor ever manage to get outside the Hip Hog?Hog?
**I'd wager it's teleportation or he has a rooftop entrance that he uses.
* Compared to Ratchet and Clank, Jak and daxter has very little related to backstory and lore. Very little is explained about the world around them, backstories about Haven City and the KG, and while Ratchet and Clank gets manga, comics, and side games that explain the histories of certain planets, very little is given to the Jak series which is disappointing, because there's alot that can be elaborated on in Jak 2 and 3. Will Naughty Dog ever go back and create an Expanded Universe?
19th Dec '17 10:12:33 AM BaronPraxis
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** It's possible that such a talent is so rare that it's more trouble than it's worth to find these people, recruit them, train them, and put them into service. Plus Eco is used to power the city, the shield wall, weaponry that can be used by anyone, healthpacks, etc, whereas Jak could only channel it for 30 seconds at most.

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** It's possible that such a talent is so rare that it's more trouble than it's worth to find these people, recruit them, train them, and put them into service. Plus Eco is used to power the city, the shield wall, weaponry that can be used by anyone, healthpacks, etc, whereas Jak could only channel it for 30 seconds at most.most.
* How did Kor ever manage to get outside the Hip Hog?
20th Aug '17 12:32:58 PM BaronPraxis
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* Since there are people who can channel certain Eco and use it for various uses, why didn't the Baron recruit these individuals into the KG? Surely having a Green Eco sage / healer would do well during a battle, and having somebody who can use Eco to fix machinery would definitely work.

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* Since there are people who can channel certain Eco and use it for various uses, why didn't the Baron recruit these individuals into the KG? Surely having a Green Eco sage / healer would do well during a battle, and having somebody who can use Eco to fix machinery would definitely work.work.
** It's possible that such a talent is so rare that it's more trouble than it's worth to find these people, recruit them, train them, and put them into service. Plus Eco is used to power the city, the shield wall, weaponry that can be used by anyone, healthpacks, etc, whereas Jak could only channel it for 30 seconds at most.
27th Jul '17 10:05:54 AM Tezcats
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** It's also possible that the ottsels are lying when they say they are precursors.
9th Jan '17 4:50:11 PM Tuaam
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** Assuming that Kiera was 15 in Jak 2, and Errol is most likely in his 20's - 30's, I think it's safe to say that Errol's a creep.



**Pretty sure Daxter was made by another game company. Another explanation is that Daxter uses a different engine / different console, so porting it would have been tedious.



** Maybe colored Eco does exist, but it's mixed up heavily with dark / other colors that in order to get pure colors one would have to refine it. Also, they probably use eco in various appliances / technology. So, red would be used for weapons, dark for fuel / experimental/, blue for computers, yellow for precision, and green for medical kits / healing.



*** Well, the KG is an organized military force, while the Underground is a group of ex - KG members and smugglers. It's safe to say that the Underground has numerous people who were Criminals / dealt with law enforcement one way or another. They probably know how to stay hidden and have connections with some influential people. Also, guerilla tactics.



** He could have had supporters who re - built him. Errol is a military commander who is popular with the city and is considered a "war hero" by his fellow comrades. It's not impossible to say that he had followers / elite guards who helped fix him.



** Leaving the port open would be an open invitation for the Metal Heads to attack. Plus the only resources that we see coming into the city are aboard flying tankers and as far as the average citizen of Haven City knows there aren't any other cities to trade with. (At least before Jak X of course.)

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** Leaving the port open would be an open invitation for the Metal Heads to attack. Plus the only resources that we see coming into the city are aboard flying tankers and as far as the average citizen of Haven City knows there aren't any other cities to trade with. (At least before Jak X of course.))
* Since there are people who can channel certain Eco and use it for various uses, why didn't the Baron recruit these individuals into the KG? Surely having a Green Eco sage / healer would do well during a battle, and having somebody who can use Eco to fix machinery would definitely work.
6th Oct '16 4:55:56 PM xXD347HXx
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** It should be noted that at the time of Jak 1, the story wasn't as developed and certain plot points weren't even thought of yet by Naughty Dog (like the time travelling arc), so at the time, it really was a curse until being Retconned into a blessing for later plot convenience.
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