History Headscratchers / JakAndDaxter

20th Dec '15 10:20:53 AM BaronPraxis
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**Maybe near Haven forest but further north or south? It's the only real option.



** Samos connection to nature isn't as strong as it was in the first game since so much of it is gone by Jak 2. If you look out from the top of the palace, the only spot with green around the city is Haven Forest, the rest of it is gray wasteland. Haven city too is mostly devoid of plant life (besides the big farmish areas near the bazaar).



27th Nov '15 8:19:40 AM BaronPraxis
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** Leaving the port open would be an open invitation for the Metal Heads to attack. Plus the only resources that we see coming into the city are aboard flying tankers and as far as the average citizen of Haven City knows there aren't any other cities to trade with. (At least before Jak X of course.)
19th Nov '15 8:48:31 AM Mooncinder
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** Mar's statue has a very similar looking sword. For all we know, it was an unstopable precursor weapon which would have utterly destroyed our metal-headed enemy if he'd managed to hit him with it. And the Barron never leaves the palace without the sword, as shown in the fortress right at the start of the game...
** Alternatively, it's a dress sword - you know, like officers in a lot of modern militaries still have - and part of the official regalia. The destruction of the Metal Head leader being a major event, of course he'd be in full dress uniform for it. So, in essence, it really is just for the dramatic gesure.

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** Mar's statue has a very similar looking sword. For all we know, it was an unstopable unstoppable precursor weapon which would have utterly destroyed our metal-headed enemy if he'd managed to hit him with it. And the Barron Baron never leaves the palace without the sword, as shown in the fortress right at the start of the game...
** Alternatively, it's a dress sword - you know, like officers in a lot of modern militaries still have - and part of the official regalia. The destruction of the Metal Head leader being a major event, of course he'd be in full dress uniform for it. So, in essence, it really is just for the dramatic gesure.gesture.



** Because enough of the other members just took a vote? Because Veger had let slip that he was responsible for the palace? Because he was mouthing off about the guy the whole town saw decimate a KG legion (five carriers single handedly must count for something) and save the guard? He did swing from a particularly nasty obstructive Beureocrat into an outright big bad. That may be involved.
** They said Veger was growing mad with power earlier on. My headcanon is that by this stage the council were only supporting Veger at all because they had no idea who else could solve their problems (Veger was making a big show of having a plan, whereas Jak was apparently still out in the desert dying.) If Ashelin had been broadcasting footage of Jak tearing through carriers like they were nothing all the while he was actually doing it, I expect Veger's support would be long gone by the time Jak had finished off the invaders.


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** Because enough of the other members just took a vote? Because Veger had let slip that he was responsible for the palace? Because he was mouthing off about the guy the whole town saw decimate a KG legion (five carriers single handedly must count for something) and save the guard? He did swing from a particularly nasty obstructive Beureocrat bureaucrat into an outright big bad. That may be involved.
** They said Veger was growing mad with power earlier on. My headcanon is that by this stage the council were only supporting Veger at all because they had no idea who else could solve their problems (Veger was making a big show of having a plan, whereas Jak was apparently still out in the desert dying.) dying). If Ashelin had been broadcasting footage of Jak tearing through carriers like they were nothing all the while he was actually doing it, I expect Veger's support would be long gone by the time Jak had finished off the invaders.

invaders.
1st Sep '15 1:10:24 PM greenpanda666
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24th Aug '15 3:55:00 PM Tuaam
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*Why does Haven City have a closed port? In Daxter there was a Big Ass tanker we saw moored to the docks. In Jak 2, the port is closed, and has no Big Ass ships. I do know that they're submarine boats in Jak 2, but why's the port closed? Shouldn't it be open for supplies?
24th Aug '15 3:52:18 PM Tuaam
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***Also, if the programmers / devs added a execution scene, then that would change the rating of the game from T to M. Jak 2 may have darker themes, but it never goes overboard with adult topics (Poverty, Rape, Child Soldiers). Also, this would destroy the plot, and ruin the story.
13th Aug '15 9:58:06 AM BaronPraxis
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** Damas was the king, yes, but that doesn't mean he had to be royalty. For all Jak (and us) knows, Damas might've become king because he was the most badass warrior or just naturally good at leading people, both of which would be more valuable assets in the wasteland over simply being a diplomat. And while Jak probably knew that the kid [[spoiler: and by extension he himself]] was royalty, he didn't know if Praxis had killed his father or simply banished him. Remember his line from the opening of Jak 3: "Wait, nobody lives outside Havens walls." Plus, Sig said that Damas lost "something" in the city. He doesn't say it's any one person, just something. Damas does mention that he lost his son but he doesn't say it was in Haven. Until the reveal it was open to guessing. If Jak thought about it at all he probably assumed he was lost to marauders or died in a sandstorm or something.
25th Jul '15 1:40:50 PM Tutankhgeek
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* Why wasn't Daxter included in the HD Collection? I realize it wasn't made by the original developers, but it was a worthy midquel and the game would have been small enough to fit on the disc just fine.
22nd Jul '15 1:43:23 PM VPhantom
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* In Haven City, there are three basic models of citizen NPCs: thin young men, fat old men, and women. The only ones that are ever seen driving are the thin young men. What's the deal with that? When I first noticed it, I thought that perhaps it had something to do with the Krimzon Guard, as with the exception of Ashelin, all of the Krimzon Guards in the game are male, and it makes sense that the Guard would only recruit those who are young and able-bodied, so perhaps one had to join the Guard to be eligible for a driver's licence. However, the Krimzon Guard all of facial tattoos that the regular citizens don't, so that can't be the answer.

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* In Haven City, there are three basic models of citizen NPCs: [=NPCs=]: thin young men, fat old men, and women. The only ones that are ever seen driving are the thin young men. What's the deal with that? When I first noticed it, I thought that perhaps it had something to do with the Krimzon Guard, as with the exception of Ashelin, all of the Krimzon Guards in the game are male, and it makes sense that the Guard would only recruit those who are young and able-bodied, so perhaps one had to join the Guard to be eligible for a driver's licence. However, the Krimzon Guard all of facial tattoos that the regular citizens don't, so that can't be the answer.
3rd Jul '15 6:48:28 PM BaronPraxis
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* Couldn't Jak figure out that Damas is [[spoiler: his father]] because of clues in the plot BEFORE the reveal? First of all, Damas is a king of a settlement called Spargus, there has to be a reason why he is established king (Because the exiled citizens of Haven would have realized his Diplomatic skills). Secondly, Jak already knows about his family's position as royalty, therefore, he would have made connections at the beginning of Jak 3. Sig aludes that his mission was to essentially find "somebody" in Haven that Damas wanted. That person was [[Spoiler: the kid]]. Damas also mentions that he lost a child & wife in Haven, he indicates his position of power in Haven before Praxis essentially wiped him out of the history books. Therefore, Jak most likely knew that Damas was his [[spoiler: son. Lol, JK it's father instead]].

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* Couldn't Jak figure out that Damas is [[spoiler: his father]] because of clues in the plot BEFORE the reveal? First of all, Damas is a king of a settlement called Spargus, there has to be a reason why he is established king (Because the exiled citizens of Haven would have realized his Diplomatic skills). Secondly, Jak already knows about his family's position as royalty, therefore, he would have made connections at the beginning of Jak 3. Sig aludes that his mission was to essentially find "somebody" in Haven that Damas wanted. That person was [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: the kid]]. Damas also mentions that he lost a child & wife in Haven, he indicates his position of power in Haven before Praxis essentially wiped him out of the history books. Therefore, Jak most likely knew that Damas was his [[spoiler: son. Lol, JK it's father instead]].
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