History Headscratchers / IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade

14th Dec '15 3:03:53 PM Lightning4119
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** Even if Indy believes that the Grail is real, that the trail they have to find the Grail is real, or that the Grail might still be where the trail says it is, he still has an overriding reason to show no interest until Donovan dangles his father's disappearance before him. The last time he got involved with that, he almost died and quite a few other people (not counting the Nazis and Belloq) either died or almost died. And then, after that, the government locked the artifact away and told him to buzz off because their "Top. Men." were going to handle it. He's got plenty of reason to pretend to not believe in the Grail, even if he does think it's real.
28th Aug '15 10:47:07 AM Lightning4119
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*** FridgeBrilliance sets in when you realize that with the knight drinking from the Grail to remain alive all that time, it wouldn't have any dust on it while the other Grails, presumably remaining untouched, would be covered in dust. Yet when Indy gets in there, they're very clean. So he probably maintains the room, making sure that if anyone shows up they don't wind up with thirty or so obvious fake Grails and one non-dusty real one.
18th Aug '15 8:08:47 AM MrDeath
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** Didn't Donovan need Ilsa's help finding some of this stuff? She was a German (was she? She says goodbye the Austrian way), so he may have needed to let the Nazis in on some of it to get her help. Also, considering that some of the relics were in Italy, having Nazi contacts would be ideal for smuggling things in and out of it, as it was Fascist by that point.
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** Didn't Donovan need Ilsa's help finding some of this stuff? She was a German (was she? She says goodbye with the Austrian way), Germans, so he may have needed to let the Nazis in on some of it to get her help. Also, considering that some of the relics were in Italy, having Nazi contacts would be ideal for smuggling things in and out of it, as it was Fascist by that point.
18th Aug '15 5:35:26 AM rtozier
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** Didn't Donovan need Ilsa's help finding some of this stuff? She was a German (was she? She says goodbye the Austrian way and Austria was part of Germany as of 1938), so he may have needed to let the Nazis in on some of it to get her help. Also, considering that some of the relics were in Italy, having Nazi contacts would be ideal for smuggling things in and out of it, as it was Fascist by that point.
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** Didn't Donovan need Ilsa's help finding some of this stuff? She was a German (was she? She says goodbye the Austrian way and Austria was part of Germany as of 1938), way), so he may have needed to let the Nazis in on some of it to get her help. Also, considering that some of the relics were in Italy, having Nazi contacts would be ideal for smuggling things in and out of it, as it was Fascist by that point.
18th Aug '15 5:34:32 AM rtozier
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** Didn't Donovan need Ilsa's help finding some of this stuff? She was a German, so he may have needed to let the Nazis in on some of it to get her help. Also, considering that some of the relics were in Italy, having Nazi contacts would be ideal for smuggling things in and out of it, as it was Fascist by that point.
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** Didn't Donovan need Ilsa's help finding some of this stuff? She was a German, German (was she? She says goodbye the Austrian way and Austria was part of Germany as of 1938), so he may have needed to let the Nazis in on some of it to get her help. Also, considering that some of the relics were in Italy, having Nazi contacts would be ideal for smuggling things in and out of it, as it was Fascist by that point.
18th Aug '15 5:30:13 AM rtozier
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*** Hitler was terrified of getting cancer after his mother died painfully from it when he was a teenager. It makes perfect sense that he would stop at nothing to keep himself healthy.
4th Aug '15 9:07:36 AM DoctorNemesis
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** In the first case, he's a kid. Impulsive. ill-thought out decisions based on flimsy reasoning aren't an exactly unheard of phenomenon when it comes to kids. Note that the whole sequence ends with the cops basically showing up to take it off him and give it back to the 'rightful' owner.
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** In the first case, he's a kid. Impulsive. ill-thought out decisions based on flimsy reasoning aren't an exactly unheard of phenomenon when it comes to kids. Note that the whole sequence ends with the cops basically showing up to take it off him and give it back to the 'rightful' owner. As for the second question, this is what NoodleIncident is for. There is clearly a long history of enmity between Indiana and Panama Hat. The fact that Panama Hat's first instinct on seeing Indy is to throw him overboard in a storm (i.e. murder our hero) suggests that he's not a particularly ethical or nice person. As for why Indiana believes it belongs in a museum, he's a professional archaeologist who works at a university and with a museum; rightly or wrongly, his whole profession and character suggests that he believes that historical relics should be made accessible to the people and for the benefit of all rather than cloistered away in someone's private collection. That's all we need to know.
4th Aug '15 8:58:30 AM DoctorNemesis
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** For what it's worth, Hitler himself didn't buy into the supernatural and {{Ghostapo}} stuff as much as later reputations and depictions would suggest; It was actually Himmler and his cronies at the SS who were more obsessed with all the Wagnerian / Arthurian / mystical legends of destiny stuff. Hitler himself was mainly only interested in it as much as it helped his propaganda effort. So chances are Hitler himself didn't buy into the mystical properties of the Grail and was only interested in having something he could use to further the myth of the glorious Thousand-Year Reich he was trying to build.
3rd May '15 12:07:56 AM DoctorNemesis
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* Is young Indy being a DesignatedHero with the Cross of Coronado? Whether the cross is an important relic or not, what business did he have stealing it from Fedora and company? Because he thought it belonged in a museum? How is that his call to make? And to make matters worse, he steals it ''again'' from Panama hat, when Indy's an adult. What's going on here?
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* Is young Indy being a DesignatedHero with the Cross of Coronado? Whether the cross is an important relic or not, what business did he have stealing it from Fedora and company? Because he thought it belonged in a museum? How is that his call to make? And to make matters worse, he steals it ''again'' from Panama hat, when Indy's an adult. What's going on here?here? ** In the first case, he's a kid. Impulsive. ill-thought out decisions based on flimsy reasoning aren't an exactly unheard of phenomenon when it comes to kids. Note that the whole sequence ends with the cops basically showing up to take it off him and give it back to the 'rightful' owner.
2nd May '15 11:46:04 PM DoctorNemesis
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** Considering that Wales and Scotland are separated from each other by what is -- even at their most distant points -- no more than a few hundred miles of land and have for two centuries been part of the same political entity, it's hardly a huge stretch to imagine that the name 'Jones' might have moved to Scotland in such a fashion at some point in the Jones family's lineage.
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** Considering that Wales and Scotland are separated from each other by what is -- even at their most distant points -- no more than a few hundred miles of land and have for two more than three centuries been part of the same political entity, entity (and even before then have had many close links), it's hardly a huge stretch to imagine that the name 'Jones' might have moved to Scotland in such a fashion at some point in the Jones family's lineage.
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