History Headscratchers / HouseOfLeaves

13th Sep '17 9:25:58 PM LB7979
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** It's possible the [[color:blue:House]] preserved the camera and Navidson's team found it on their way to escape.

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** It's possible the [[color:blue:House]] House preserved the camera and Navidson's team found it on their way to escape.



* Why does the [[color:blue:house]] go batshit insane and try to kill them? I understand why the Labyrinth would try something like that- it's the embodiment of true, endless nothingness, "things" make it sick- but why would the [[color:blue:house]] do that? RuleOfScary doesn't apply when the book is as postmodern as this.
** Wasn't Tom taunting it (or the 'monster') to get him when he was camping out near the staircase? Maybe the [[color:blue:house]] decided to take up his offer since the Labyrinth didn't.
*** I thought the purpose of the Labyrinth was to test people's souls or somesuch by surrounding them with true nothingness until they were stripped to their truest form. [[spoiler:Holloway was, at heart, rotten and executed for it, while Navidson's love was at the center of his being, so he was spared.]] The [[color:blue:house]] just exists to draw people to the Labyrinth. Presumably, it doesn't like people leaving before they've been judged. I think.

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* Why does the [[color:blue:house]] House go batshit insane and try to kill them? I understand why the Labyrinth would try something like that- it's the embodiment of true, endless nothingness, "things" make it sick- but why would the [[color:blue:house]] House do that? RuleOfScary doesn't apply when the book is as postmodern as this.
** Wasn't Tom taunting it (or the 'monster') to get him when he was camping out near the staircase? Maybe the [[color:blue:house]] House decided to take up his offer since the Labyrinth didn't.
*** I thought the purpose of the Labyrinth was to test people's souls or somesuch by surrounding them with true nothingness until they were stripped to their truest form. [[spoiler:Holloway was, at heart, rotten and executed for it, while Navidson's love was at the center of his being, so he was spared.]] The [[color:blue:house]] House just exists to draw people to the Labyrinth. Presumably, it doesn't like people leaving before they've been judged. I think.



*** It's implied at one point that absorbing Holloway changed the [[color:blue:house]], somehow.

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*** It's implied at one point that absorbing Holloway changed the [[color:blue:house]], House, somehow.



** Possibly the [[color:blue:house]] was always ''part'' of the labyrinth, just the most stable and human-tolerant part. It could've gone berserk at any time, it just hadn't done so up to then.
* What would happen if you put a pile of matter (such as bricks, or a huge block of wood) against the outside wall, then sent a non-sentient creature into the hallway? Would it skip over to the nearest open atmosphere, or would it TeleFrag? The [[color:blue:house]] seems to treat the hallway as an open door, where humans go to a place that is in the three or four dimensions we know the yard, while animals go to exacty the same place only being the yard itself, so would the [[color:blue:house]] consider the material part of itself and extend the depth of the "door", [[TeleFrag or...]] yeah.

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** Possibly the [[color:blue:house]] House was always ''part'' of the labyrinth, just the most stable and human-tolerant part. It could've gone berserk at any time, it just hadn't done so up to then.
* What would happen if you put a pile of matter (such as bricks, or a huge block of wood) against the outside wall, then sent a non-sentient creature into the hallway? Would it skip over to the nearest open atmosphere, or would it TeleFrag? The [[color:blue:house]] House seems to treat the hallway as an open door, where humans go to a place that is in the three or four dimensions we know the yard, while animals go to exacty the same place only being the yard itself, so would the [[color:blue:house]] House consider the material part of itself and extend the depth of the "door", [[TeleFrag or...]] yeah.



** I know how you feel: my first move upon discovering the "5 1/2 Minute Hallway" would've been to station an observer inside the [[color:blue:house]], staring into the hallway, while I went into the yard, to the wall that comprised its "other side." Bring out Mister Drill, bore an inch-wide hole into the wall, and look through it. Will I see my friend? What'll HE see? Try pushing things through the hole. Shoot my water gun into it. Widen hole. [[MindScrewdriver Etc]].

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** I know how you feel: my first move upon discovering the "5 1/2 Minute Hallway" would've been to station an observer inside the [[color:blue:house]], House, staring into the hallway, while I went into the yard, to the wall that comprised its "other side." Bring out Mister Drill, bore an inch-wide hole into the wall, and look through it. Will I see my friend? What'll HE see? Try pushing things through the hole. Shoot my water gun into it. Widen hole. [[MindScrewdriver Etc]].



** What happens is you die horribly. You're not going to survive this if your first instinct is to shred local spacetime even more, and I doubt the [[color:blue:house]] itself would appreciate getting holes drilled in it.
* It bugs me that Danielewski draws attention to the concept of the [[color:red:Minotaur]] by crossing it out and making it red. Because by doing so he makes such a concept more important than other possibilities. And then it becomes harder to imagine the whole labyrinth as nothing more than a modern version of the Labyrinth of Crete, even though someone says it's not really that. Or maybe I shouldn't have read the fourth ''Percy Jackson'' book right before this one.

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** What happens is you die horribly. You're not going to survive this if your first instinct is to shred local spacetime even more, and I doubt the [[color:blue:house]] House itself would appreciate getting holes drilled in it.
* It bugs me that Danielewski draws attention to the concept of the [[color:red:Minotaur]] Minotaur by crossing it out and making it red. Because by doing so he makes such a concept more important than other possibilities. And then it becomes harder to imagine the whole labyrinth as nothing more than a modern version of the Labyrinth of Crete, even though someone says it's not really that. Or maybe I shouldn't have read the fourth ''Percy Jackson'' book right before this one.



** "Leaves" is a word often meaning "pages". The book itself is a "house of leaves".
** I don't think there's really a concrete answer unless you ask the author himself. There's many theories, like one about how leaves changing during seasons symbolizes the [[color:blue:house]] changed, and another about it relating to Yggdrasil.

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** "Leaves" is a word often meaning "pages". The book itself is a "house "House of leaves".
** I don't think there's really a concrete answer unless you ask the author himself. There's many theories, like one about how leaves changing during seasons symbolizes the [[color:blue:house]] House changed, and another about it relating to Yggdrasil.
3rd Jul '17 9:55:17 PM EtherReal
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* Why does the [[color:blue:house]] go batshit insane and try to kill them? I understand why the Labyrinth would try something like that- it's the embodiment of true, endless nothingness, "things" make it sick- but why would the [[color:blue:house]] do that? RuleOfScary doesn't apply when the book is as pretentious as this.

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* Why does the [[color:blue:house]] go batshit insane and try to kill them? I understand why the Labyrinth would try something like that- it's the embodiment of true, endless nothingness, "things" make it sick- but why would the [[color:blue:house]] do that? RuleOfScary doesn't apply when the book is as pretentious postmodern as this.
27th Feb '17 4:10:07 PM LB7979
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* The book is famous for printing the word ''House'' always in blue, regardless of what language it appears in (i.e. the German ''Hause'' is also blue). This is even flaunted at the reader in the Index, as it lists "House (Blue)" with lots of pages, and then "House (Black)" with DNE ("Does Not Exist"). ''BUT''... Footnote 146 [[note]]The pages-long footnote listing buildings of a certain architecture.[[/note]] contains the Dutch word "Scheepvarthuis" of which the "huis" part is the Dutch word for "House" and it's the only occurence of the word "House" in the book not printed blue![[note]]Paperback '2000 edition: page 122[[/note]] This must have been a conscious decision by the author, seeing how carefully he handles the many foreign languages; also, just preceding it there's another Dutch example but that one has been translated to / is listed in English, and ''IS'' blue (it's listed as: Schröder House, instead of Schröderhuis). Also, Scheepvarthuis is spelled wrong: it really is ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheepvaarthuis Scheepvaarthuis]], with two A's (again, the author must have misspelled this deliberately, but why?)
18th Feb '17 11:51:07 PM LB7979
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** I think it was Johnny, not Zampano, that struck out the mentions about the Minotaur. Why? Because it was Johnny that got an obsession about the monster that want to get him and indetified it with the Minotaur.

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** I think it was Johnny, not Zampano, that struck out the mentions about the Minotaur. Why? Because it was Johnny that got an obsession about the monster that want wants to get him and indetified identified it with the Minotaur.Minotaur.
*** No, it was Zampano who struck them out and Johnny who chose to include them anyway - at least the text that is not just red, but ''red-and-struck-through''; it's specifically mentioned that is text that had been deleted but Johnny decided to put back. Also, Johnny being hunted by a monster (or whatever) actually made him ''more'' interested in the Minotaur story.
12th Feb '17 2:48:56 AM comar
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** I think it was Johnny, not Zampano, that struck out the mentions about the Minotaur. Why? Because it was Johnny that got an obsession about the monster that want to get him and indetified it with the Minotaur.
3rd Feb '16 9:41:37 PM rtan
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** My take: Holloway is convinced that there is a monster stalking him in the labyrinth, reasoning that the omnipresent growling and the damage done to left-behind items are its handiwork. It turns out that there is no monster. Perhaps the author is convinced that the myth of the Minotaur must be relevant, indeed even vital to the story given the obvious connections... and then strikes it out when he realizes later that it is not.
2nd Sep '15 5:36:54 PM crashkey
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** Folding and/or crumpling, plus the locket being big, means it could probably fit in there fairly easily.


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** Well, clearly, Johnny and/or Zampano and/or the unnamed editor made those typos! ...is the excuse you can use for basically any "mistake" in the book.
1st Jun '15 1:22:21 AM Solle
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* Why is the word house written in blue in English, German and French, but not in several other languages (Dutch, Italian, Spanish)? Why does the only Dutch word that has "huis" in it contain a typo, when Danielewsky insists that the book has no unintentional typos?
9th Feb '15 3:03:33 AM MichaelKatsuro
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** Johnny lies frequently.

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** [[UnreliableNarrator Johnny lies frequently.]]
** Maybe he watched it at Lude's place.
16th Jan '15 6:58:36 AM teridactyl
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* When Johnny finally opens his mother's locket, [[spoiler:he finds the first letter he ever wrote her.]] Granted, he did describe it as a bigger locket than most, but still...How the heck [[spoiler:did she stuff a whole letter into a locket?]] Unless it was written on the back of a fortune cookie note. Or is the locket is also [[spoiler:BiggerOnTheInside "Bigger on the Inside"]]?

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* When Johnny finally opens his mother's locket, [[spoiler:he finds the first letter he ever wrote her.]] Granted, he did describe it as a bigger locket than most, but still...How the heck [[spoiler:did she stuff a whole letter into a locket?]] Unless it was written on the back of a fortune cookie note. Or is the locket is also [[spoiler:BiggerOnTheInside "Bigger on the Inside"]]?[[spoiler:BiggerOnTheInside]]?
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