History Headscratchers / HeroesHiroAndAndo

I'm willing to accept that Peter can only hold one power at a time, and am happy to see how much less of an IdiotHero he's become now that they don't need to DeusExitMachina him all the time. But so far, we've only ever seen him use synthetic powers, without even attempting to absorb something from the always-more-powerful natural mutants... not even Claire, for cryin' out loud. And on the other [[IncrediblyLamePun hando, we have Ando]], who proclaims his ability "worthless"... even though we've seen him use it a grand total of four times, and one of those was just a demonstration of the pretty lights. We've never seen him even ''try'' to use it on a non-mutant, so we have no idea what kind of effect it could have.

** Main/MeanwhileInTheFuture. It didn't have the inscription, because Hiro hadn't inscribed it "yet". Try not to think too hard about it.

Hiro has been bugging me for a while now, because his character seems to be undoing all of his development since Season 1. Yeah, he started as an AscendedFanboy who had a childlike view of the world shaped by his comic books, but he's since had two loves-of-his-life, lost both, created his own archnemesis, almost single-handedly kicked off the bad news in Volume 3 by opening the safe he was specifically told not to, and learned that he is dying. Despite the life lessons he seemed to be learning by taking a backseat to Ando, protecting Baby Touch-and-Go, and learning not to use his powers as a crutch, he's acting exactly the same way in Season 4. Samuel has one conversation with him and he immediately abandons his rather sensible "Don't monkey with the past" policy in less than an episode. And as soon as he abandons that, he immediately falls back on his powers again. When he sees Tadahashi throw himself off the roof for losing his job, his only thought is to keep going back to the past to sabotage the copier to prevent the guy from Xeroxing his butt. Over and over again. While that * was* a CrowningMomentOfFunny, one would think that if Hiro '''Nakamura''' thought about it for a few seconds, he might come up with another way to save Tadahashi's job with '''Nakamura''' Industries.

Future!Hiro determines that the pivotal change in history that he needs to make to prevent NYC from being destroyed is to tell Peter "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World!" - because it was Claire's regenerative abilities that allowed Sylar to survive his katana wound and still explode. He goes back to his own time and discovers that that wasn't sufficient, because -Peter- exploded instead. But then he doesn't change it any further - instead, Present!Hiro goes to that timeline, and sees everything. Which means the only difference from that timeline and the show's is that Hiro went to that timeline and saw that future. So how did -that- cause the one difference that prevented that future, ie, Nathan growing a conscience and flying in to save the day? I guess he -did- go up to Nathan and call him a very bad man... that's pretty weak, but I guess it could have planted a seed of doubt.... meh. It still JustBugsMe as a plot point.

****** He did stop time and teleport in, just as the kid was firing. However, considering that [[IdiotHero this is Peter]], I didn't actually have any trouble believing this scene. Also, as for Hiro's options: ''he couldn't use teleportation'' '''''or''''' ''time travel in this episode''. As he told Emma, "lately, time and space have been the master of ''him''". Considering that Samuel made such a big deal of Hiro taking them back to the carnvial, and then Hiro continues to have trouble time-travelling throughout the next episode, and then he refers to his time travel being 'not so good' and him ending up ten minutes ahead of his mark, [[ViewersAreMorons I thought this would have been clear]].

** For the same reason that he used time-stop instead of teleport during his duel with Sylar: during this episode, he couldn't control his teleportation. He ''couldn't'' teleport or time-travel. Considering that Samuel made such a big deal of Hiro taking them back to the carnvial, and then Hiro continues to have trouble time-travelling throughout the next episode, and then he refers to his time travel being 'not so good' and him ending up ten minutes ahead of his mark, [[ViewersAreMorons I thought this would have been clear]].

I know it's probably just me, but when I listen to Hiro, Ando, and the others speak in Japanese, I pay at least as much attention to how they're saying the things as the subtitles, and the Eulogy really bothered me for two reasons. First, Japanese Funerals are ridiculously formal, kicking how one speaks to even friends up to at least -masu level, and him speaking in a very, and I mean ''very'' informal way is actually kind of jarring. Second, what he said is ''not'' the kind of thing one says at a funeral. Yeesh, he sounds like Angela's "recently" to Matt meant that she was his mother, instead of "Mama." (It's the only way that IdiotBall could exist.) I think I know the reason for this (DidNotDoTheResearch) but at the same time, there is proof that seems nearly contradictory.

Okay, so 2006 Hiro and Ando teleport into the distopian future at the same time as Future Hiro returns. Future Hiro is the one from the timeline where a Future Hiro never told Peter to "save the cheerleader; save the world". Obviously, New York still blew up. So, Future Hiro decided to alter history, built the string map to figure out what event would have the most effect, and then traveled back to tell Peter the message. After Peter got the message, he got a bunch of the heroes together, Claire was saved, and then Hiro and Ando travel in to the future but presumably there would be a timeline in which they wouldn't. A Future Hiro of this second timeline then makes the string map in the loft and leaves to change something (presumably not "save the cheerleader" because in his timeline the first Future Hiro would have already done that), when 2006 Hiro and Ando and the first Future Hiro arrive. What the frak happened to the second Future Hiro?