History Headscratchers / HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban

12th Jun '17 10:39:06 AM Darkknightskye
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** As to that, when Black was taken to the castle, MacNair came out shortly after to summon the dementors. It's logical to assume that the ministry had taken custody of Black and so the blame would lie on him. As to the malicious intent point, Fudge calling Dumbledore a liar about this has a good chance of blowing up in his face. This is a time when everyone is still wishing that Dumbledore had accepted the position of Minister of Magic over Fudge. It's not until Voldy returns (when the public at large is willing to believe anything if it means that they don't have to deal with a second DE incursion) that Fudge successfully turns the public's opinion away from Dumbledore and Harry.

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** As to that, when Black was taken to the castle, MacNair [=MacNair=] came out shortly after to summon the dementors. It's logical to assume that the ministry had taken custody of Black and so the blame would lie on him. As to the malicious intent point, Fudge calling Dumbledore a liar about this has a good chance of blowing up in his face. This is a time when everyone is still wishing that Dumbledore had accepted the position of Minister of Magic over Fudge. It's not until Voldy returns (when the public at large is willing to believe anything if it means that they don't have to deal with a second DE incursion) that Fudge successfully turns the public's opinion away from Dumbledore and Harry.
12th Jun '17 10:37:50 AM Darkknightskye
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** As to that, when Black was taken to the castle, MacNair came out shortly after to summon the dementors. It's logical to assume that the ministry had taken custody of Black and so the blame would lie on him. As to the malicious intent point, Fudge calling Dumbledore a liar about this has a good chance of blowing up in his face. This is a time when everyone is still wishing that Dumbledore had accepted the position of Minister of Magic over Fudge. It's not until Voldy returns (when the public at large is willing to believe anything if it means that they don't have to deal with a second DE incursion) that Fudge successfully turns the public's opinion away from Dumbledore and Harry.
12th Jun '17 8:36:03 AM Darkknightskye
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*** And Scientific mastery does not preclude religious leanings.
12th Jun '17 8:31:29 AM Darkknightskye
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* For what it's worth, you could make this argument for the main trio. All three of them are Gryffindor. Probably why the Marauders found each other too. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the first non-Gryffindor friend Harry gets isn't introduced until OotP.

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* For what it's worth, you could make this argument for the main trio. All three of them are Gryffindor. Probably why the Marauders found each other too. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the first non-Gryffindor friend Harry gets isn't introduced until OotP.
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12th Jun '17 8:30:57 AM Darkknightskye
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* For what it's worth, you could make this argument for the main trio. All three of them are Gryffindor. Probably why the Marauders found each other too. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the first non-Gryffindor friend Harry gets isn't introduced until OotP.
6th Jun '17 9:58:53 AM inspibrain101
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** "Was he keeping it a secret" Yes, he was, that was the whole point of the sharade. They were afraid that should it come out, other parents would demand to give him the boot. Your suggestion implies that the nightfall is the trigger for transformation, rather than the phase of the moon itself, which will be the same wherever he moves and whatever time of the day it is. Although the idea of teleporting a rabid monster away from a castle full of children and into some wilderness is solid, but solid ideas are not encouraged in Hogwarts. Apparently they're too boring.

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** "Was he keeping it a secret" Yes, he was, that was the whole point of the sharade.charade. They were afraid that should it come out, other parents would demand to give him the boot. Your suggestion implies that the nightfall is the trigger for transformation, rather than the phase of the moon itself, which will be the same wherever he moves and whatever time of the day it is. Although the idea of teleporting a rabid monster away from a castle full of children and into some wilderness is solid, but solid ideas are not encouraged in Hogwarts. Apparently they're too boring.


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** Teleporting Lupin away, between time zones, into the wilderness, etc., would not work for several reasons. First: ''You cannot apparate in or out of Hogwarts''. This one should be pretty obvious. Second: If you wanted to escort Lupin to Hogsmeade, off of the Hogwarts grounds in order to apparate, fine. But it's a lot of work. However, apparition cannot be easily performed by most adult wizards, and side-along apparition is considered one of the most dangerous forms of transportation. Lupin would not be able to apparate himself, and I seriously doubt that there are any staff willing to spend every night babysitting a werewolf. Third: Portkeys are monitored by the Ministry of Magic; you have to get permission to create one. Now, I can buy that Dumbledore would make an illegal portkey for Order of the Phoenix activities, because, you know, Voldemort's kind of a big deal. But creating an illegal portkey to help a werewolf student would cause a lot more problems than it solved. Supposing they were caught, the Ministry would discover that Dumbledore had allowed a werewolf admission to Hogwarts, there'd be outrage, Dumbledore may lose his job, the Ministry would extend its tentacles into the management of the school and the kids' education, etc. Seems to me that that's one particular battle Dumbledore would be less than eager to fight- a battle that would really only benefit one student.
2nd Jun '17 3:50:45 PM Darkknightskye
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** Why not teleport him into the wilderness? Lets see, confine him in the Shrieking Shack where he'll be confined, but tear the place/himself up, or send him into the wilderness where there's no guarantee that there are no hikers, rangers, or people of any sort living/staying nearby for him to kill and eat?
2nd Jun '17 3:05:32 PM Darkknightskye
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** Again, something that we have to realize is that we see almost everything from Harry's POV. Who's to say that Lupin took it in stride. When Harry first tells him about Pettigrew, it's as Harry is leaving Lupin's company and Lupin's only reaction is denial. It's possible that he spends the next few hours combing the map hoping both to find Peter's name and hoping not to at the same time. Then when he finds it, he goes into a {{HeroicBSOD}}, all of which would have taken place away from Harry's POV.

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** Again, something that we have to realize is that we see almost everything from Harry's POV. Who's to say that Lupin took it in stride. stride? When Harry first tells him about Pettigrew, it's as Harry is leaving Lupin's company and Lupin's only reaction is denial. It's possible that he spends the next few hours combing the map hoping both to find Peter's name and hoping not to at the same time. Then when he finds it, he goes into a {{HeroicBSOD}}, {{Heroic BSOD}}, all of which would have taken place away from Harry's POV.
2nd Jun '17 3:04:24 PM Darkknightskye
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** Again, something that we have to realize is that we see almost everything from Harry's POV. Who's to say that Lupin took it in stride. When Harry first tells him about Pettigrew, it's as Harry is leaving Lupin's company and Lupin's only reaction is denial. It's possible that he spends the next few hours combing the map hoping both to find Peter's name and hoping not to at the same time. Then when he finds it, he goes into a {{HeroicBSOD}}, all of which would have taken place away from Harry's POV.
2nd Jun '17 2:58:48 PM Darkknightskye
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** At any rate, who says that Lily doesn't really know Peter? Sure, she may not have been close with him when we see them in school in HBP, but they've had years to become friends. And it's worth noting that Peter was one of James's best friends, just like Lupin and Sirius, and she became good friends with them. There's no reason to believe that she was any less of a friend of his as james or Sirius was at this point. Maybe the fact that she realized something was off but didn't put 2 and 2 together is exactly why James or Sirius or Lupin didn't figure it out.
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